Hello, This is my first post on Team BHP and i am starting a new thread dedicated to all the Owners of a car which has stood the tests of time "TATA ESTATE", Going by the rules of Team BHP i screened through search results and found no thread posting ownership comments / pics of Tata estate cars. So i encourage such folks to go ahead and share their experiences here (I do understand we do not have many well maintained cars left on roads)
I. Model details Year of manufacture : 1996
Condition : Used
Reading on the Odometer : 1,28,000 KM +
Overall Fuel Efficiency : 11 KM per litre without AC
Number of years the car is with present owner : 8 years (2003 January - Till Date)
Purchase Cost : Rs 1,10,000
II. The Purchase Story -
Year 2003
Well, We are a family who have always believed in motorcycles more than a car, but finally one day my father decided that he needs to buy a car, so the plan was simple, since no one in our house knew driving a four wheeler back then, we decided to buy a used car, have some good practice on it and then go for a new one later.
So our first obvious choice was a Maruti esteem considering the popularity it enjoyed in those days but the used car prices were monstrous, we went to multiple dealers but no one was ready to budge below 2 lacs, and then one of our friends whom we had taken as a guide in purchasing the used car suggested Tata Estate as an option (though I was in more favour of Sierra but higher ground clearance meant the ladies in the family would find it difficult to hop onto it), so after a couple of hunts, we found this white beauty in Amar Car Dealership; Hadapsar,Pune, The Dealer was good and had made sure all the paperwork was clear and in place, We finalized it and brought it home,
Now that the car was in and so were the problems not far behind (This is what most of the readers want to hear
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Issues faced immediately After purchase:
1. One of the wheelcaps was broken, purchased new set of 4 wheel caps
2. Problem with the timing belt and it had to be replaced
3. Battery was in poor condition
4. Blades on wiper had worn out
5. Problem with rear AC vents and left side front channel for AC as no air was coming at all,
6. Rear washer on wiper has its water pipe cut down under, still hunting where it is?
Initially we lost faith and started to believe this car was not reliable enough and maybe buying it was not a very good option and thanks to some expert comments like
"This car is a failure dude"
OR "Wow is not this car out of production now"
OR "Why do you need such a big car"
OR "Is this a mini truck"
OR "You know it has a 407 engine, very unreliable you see"
from Noobs, it just added to trauma
But then we decided we will restore this car to its original glory of the 90's Era and then began an age of Restoration
Restoration Round 1 -
Year 2003
Initial Addons to make the car worth driving on the road as a Disaster Recovery Measure
1. Set of 4 Bridgestone 15" Dueller tyres
2. Amaron Battery
3. Pioneer - Casette Deck + 2 front 2 Way speakers + 2 Rear 3 Way neodium magnet speakers
4. Full servicing including replacement of oils / gasket / bearings etc.
5. Perfume bottle from Grandall (This keeps it drivable from inside)
6. Seat covers in Cotton
7. Leather steering wheel cover
Total cost for all of the above : 50,000 approx
Now it was very much runnable and most of the reliability issues were addressed
Restoration Round 2 -
Year 2006
1. New bucket seats at front, new seats with better lumbar support on rear
2. Same art leather top and window panel linings
3. Rear parking mirror
4. Diesel fuel supply pipe
5. High mount stop lamp
6. New front grille with new logos
7. Clutch assembly and clutch oil reservoir assembly
Restoration Round 3 -
Year 2008
1. Changed Headlamp Aseembly - (Both and Left and Right) and added philips bulbs
2. Replaced the cutout for above assembly
3. Rubber Beading replacement for all doors (Set of 5)
4. Replaced all floor mats
III. Long Trips Done:
1. Trips from Pune to Mumbai (240 Km per trip)
2. Trip to Shirdi
3. Trip To Jalgaon
4. Offroad trips to mountain tops for network installation
5. Recently had a offroad trip to Waghjai temple on mountain roads
IV. Reliability issues Faced: A Summary (Again! Many people will love this, i know you folks must be giggling reading what is given below)
1. Fuel Pump caught AIR on a 35 degree descent leaving us stranded for about 3 hours
2. Battery cable got loose and took some time to understand actually what had gone wrong
3. Hose pipe feeding fuel to engine started leaking causing failure in car to start off
4. Accelerator cable broke leaving us stranded in middle of nowhere
5. Clutch assembly broke and we had to take the car to service with a tow vehicle
6. Due to heavy engine weight, the front tyres almost had a burnout since air pressure was not correct
V. Pros
1. Very Comfortable Interior spaces including good front and rear legroom and shoulder room and decent headroom (Me and my father both are 5'9" but we are very much comfortable)
2. Very good visibility of the front thanks to Wide front windshield and thinner A pillars
3. Big windows prevent the claustrophobic effect.
4. Responsive steering wheel makes you take the control of the car and you don’t feel it that big anymore.
5. Decent Turn angles helps in maneuvering this big daddy smoothly on tight corners
6. Excellent traction - and having big tyres always helps
7. Good highway cruiser and runnable in city to some extent
VI. Cons
I strongly feel those who hate this car must have directly scrolled to this section;
1. Availability of Aesthetic related spare parts is still an issue owing to the fact that the model is out of production
2. Engine lacks the punch making overtakes questionable
3. Due to its massive size, moving the car around in parkings and basements requires more skill
4. Smaller rear view windshield means more dependency on ORVMS
5. The AC is weak and further impacts engine pickup also causing heat gauge to reach its peak very quickly
6. Poor headlamps
Safe as a tank in case of Accident - Well when you drive a car on highways , accidents are inevitable and so did one happen with this car, On Mumbai pune highway there was a traffic jam due to road under construction, now the truck in front of us lost control of its breaks and started coming in reverse , we were just behind it and with a bus behind us, we had no room to escape, the truck's rear hit the front of our car and literally speaking we were on our way to experiencing a car crush between bus and truck with us still inside, the truckdriver somehow gained control but our front grille, right headlamps and bonnet had been sacrificed in this process, we had to reach the destination very urgently for a funeral so we continued with it and drove around 160 Km safely without any issues, on inspection we did find that our radiator was partially punctured
Total cost of above repairs (3500 only, thanks to sheet metal body no losses there)
VII. Present Day:
We still own the car (obviously! else i will not be writing this review and wasting your time), and have gotten used to its surprises,
But I believe in one thing, if all your memories are sweet then you would not have anything worth remembering / writing about, that makes this partnership with the car so worthwhile, it is just like any other relationship where you have to live with the odds to enjoy what it has to offer, My mother is so embarrassed by its sheer volume and aptly calls it the white elephant but when it comes to going somewhere out, she always knows there is the Estate waiting in the parking lot which would safely take her from point A to B
Overall: A car with a character and needs a guy / girl with patience to understand it (And this father and son duo have got a lot of it)
Final Note:
I am a little superstitious and I believe ever since this car came in our family, many good things have happened to us and this car had bought us the luck and goodwill and I owe a fair share of my luck to this car and this explains why I have no plans of dumping it off anytime in near future
P.S : All the above statements are totally my point of view about the car.. dont sue me for this, or if you want to, go ahead .i have a good lawyer
Keep posting. Awaiting further comments and yes i will be posting the pics shortly