20th August 2013, 12:23 | #61 |
BHPian | Re: Looking for a Sports Sedan in the 40L region How about the Bimmer 328i? As you mentioned, you can extend the budget by 3-4 lakhs. Also, a discount thrown in and this should be possible. No? Guessing, this purchase would be made in Delhi. -Shivang Gandotra |
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20th August 2013, 12:27 | #62 |
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Forget about the discounts, as far as I know this car isn't available. The lot came has already been sold and it'll take few months before another one comes. I can be wrong though. |
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20th August 2013, 14:18 | #63 | |
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Available for the N20(20i) there are different gains defined i.e. both with 91 RON & Race fuel (IIRC 30 hp & 45 hp respectively) HARTGE Program Also do check out what Hartge offers which is a decent 218 hp tune for the 20i PS - Also remember both the 320i & 328i though have the same N20 block but are running different compression; 320i - 11:1 328i - 10:1 | |
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20th August 2013, 14:20 | #64 | |
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Another thing to consider is that all Bimmers come stock with run flats. If you are doing much touring, please, for gods sake throw some regular tires on there and dump a space saver in the trunk. Problem with that is you use up precious cargo space. Still, if this is a situation you are okay with, I would buy a 320D and do a performance upgrade before all the exterior mods. However, I am a manual transmission performance nut. It's usually function over form with me. Incidentally if your friends are also car nuts, you are going to be sitting in the rear seat some of the time on your road trips, in that case, look at the Jag XF 2.2; its a torque monster and you can bump the horses up with a re-map. It will also be much more comfortable than the 3, it is still exclusive and the cabin space is quite special with its minimalist design (but it is sober); The handling wont be as involving as the Bimmer. I love the dilemma you are in man! just make sure to test drive everything before deciding. Even if you are think you may not like it. Also despite getting shut down on the pre-owned scenario, do try to keep discussing with your folks advantages and disadvantages of whatever you would like to own from the segment above...you never know!! They may just indulge you | |
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20th August 2013, 15:48 | #66 |
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| Re: BMW 320d (F30) vs Audi A4 A bit off-topic and I have nothing against the moderators but since my thread is moved to an 'A4 or 320d' thread, I thought I'd just point out that I'm not even considering the A4 and looking at much wider options so my post just don't fit in. No offence meant. Last edited by AdiSinghV12 : 20th August 2013 at 15:49. |
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20th August 2013, 15:55 | #67 | |
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I fill regular petrol myself, no knocking or limp mode till now as the car is allowed to use 91 RON. ^ Screen shot from my car Even the F10 M5 can run on 91 RON ^ Here is a screen capture of the same from BMW India's website So dont worry about fuel quality much, just buy the 320i Last edited by karan561 : 20th August 2013 at 15:56. | |
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20th August 2013, 16:11 | #68 | |
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Thanks for the wishes Adi! Right now, I am looking forward to getting our 1.8TSI Laura off my Fathers hands when he finally finds an upgrade for himself!! (we have been trying to replace our Innova for a while now and nothing within the 30L bracket is satisfactory, we may land up with a pre-owned Freelander 2 as a new one at 52-60 OTR Bangalore is out of our reach) But back to your problem, I don't have too much experience with the 320i, but, I can say this, while I was studying in the US, I had a chance to drive several cars that needed premium fuel including BMWs. Now, in many cases though they were second owner cars bought by students, they were rather well maintained. I can guarantee you one thing, while your car wont die, you will certainly notice a difference in performance (I always did, even on a Golf GTI). If you are okay with this, then go ahead with the 320i (but, all things considered, despite having an entirely diesel garage, I would still buy a 320D; Have you considered convincing your Dad to give you the 525 and buy something else for himself ) HOWEVER If you can wait to buy your car until the end of the year, you never know what kinds of discounts will be thrown your way, some of the higher segment cars may also become affordable. Discounts of 5-10 lacs are not unheard of. Even now you were offered an A6 CE for 36 odd correct? So cars that cost 50-55 on road may be within reach. OR you may just find a 328i that a buyer couldn't pick up and the dealer is trying to get rid of. It has happened. Last December, a friend got offered a previous generation 330i at 38 OTR bangalore with serious room for negotiation(He didn't buy it though). Even the 320i or 320D will be available for some serious discounts then. Leaving more left over for mods, or heck a whole new car to be used as a beater if one wanted. | ||
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23rd August 2013, 11:20 | #71 | |
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Indeed the 1.8TSI is fantastic as evinced by my petrol bills on a recent jaunt to Bombay. I must have broken the sound barrier! Any 3 pointed star is out for us no matter what. Its just too high profile. As of now the debate is on between pre-owned and new. It is the taxes on the new SUV's that is just crazy. One can buy an entirely new Octavia L&K with the taxes on that segment here in Bangalore. Not worth it. The Land Rover Fl2 is actually more comfortable for 5 people than the Q5 is, that coupled with its utilitarian and no-nonsense styling is what attracts us to it. However, who the heck knows what will end up happening. We've been trying to replace the Innova for two years and it hasn't happened yet. I am not waiting with baited breath. I have stopped driving our Innova to work and am using my Swift almost exclusively. Time to throw a remap on it methinks. Okay back to the bimmer. I am glad you are falling in love with the Sportline. I recently did some research into after market bi-xenons. After reading your posts, I too started contemplating xenons on our Laura. That is a PITA, it may still end up happening if I can figure out a way to do it stock; Try some hard bargaining for a 320 luxury line to get all the goodies you want! Then when modding, throw out wooden veneer for carbon fiber finish. But I'd want black interiors! I am sure you can work out some kind of loyalty deal with BMW. I get you on the E90 525D man, but performance wise it will leave your 320D eating dust. My ideal car in college would be a stage III mod petrol Laura. Just throwing it out there !! | |
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With the base 320i or 320d you miss out on sunroof, 9 speaker hifi music system, internal LED lighting, digital tachometer, curtains for rear windows, beautiful interior colour options, exterior lighting, chrome accents on the exterior and most importantly the LED - Xenons which define the character of every Beamer. It's a question of couple of lacs at best. Unless you're a hardcore petrol head, go with the 320d. I believe bird automotive had a black sports plus with red interiors. They were offering it for 31.5 ex showroom when I spoke to them about a month back. The Sports plus is a direct import and is lower stanced as you mentioned u require. This is against the original price of 37.5 which seems like an amazing deal ! They were also offering a black 320d sports line along with an M sport kit and 20 inch wheels. My god that car was a sight ! They had it on display in ambience mall. U cannot deny diesel is way more practical, is carrying so much more discount and will fetch you at least 7-8 lacs more than petrol upon resale. Spend 1-1.5 lacs on a good remap and you'll have yourself a nice sounding sport sedan ! As far as tuning and remap goes, there are plenty of options available for the diesel as well, equally competent to the petrol if I might add. A humble suggestion of course | |
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And damn! The Sport Plus for 31.5 sounded like a steal! Anyway that's probably gone now, any guesses on what deal would I be able to fetch in November? Currently the offer that I'm getting on both the luxurly line and sport line is 34.5-3.25-0.5(loyalty)= 30.75 Ex Showroom. Cheers! Last edited by AdiSinghV12 : 23rd August 2013 at 14:06. | |
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As a matter of fact I've done my fair share of research on this as I too am planning to transform the look of the car sometime soon! I always wanted the sports line but when I saw the saddle brown interior I just melted down. I couldn't see myself in any other car. The kit you've shown out here is the best one around. At the showroom it costs 2.5 lacs for the entire package including side skirts, bumpers and M sport badging all over replacing the traditional logos. After market this will cost you anywhere between 1-1.25 lacs plus paint. The wheels however are a different story. I would strongly advise you buy them online from a US based website like tirerack.com. They don't cost more than 20-30k per wheel depending on your choices. The expensive bit is the tires. height of the european spec car Height of the Indian car. Original M Sport wheels - this what I would get. I've seen them in person and they will blow your mind when you see them on the car ! Again as you can see, it's essential that u reduce the height of the car to get the best stance once you've got your M sport kit on. I'm still split between betting the M sport kit or getting new ECU kit from BMW along with a new exhaust. | |
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