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Old 21st May 2019, 23:40   #76
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Also was checking out tyres and would like to later switch from RFTs to Michelin primacy 3ST 225/55/17.
Without going off-topic, I would recommend you to take a TD of a BMW on non-RFT/regular tubeless tyres before making the switch. The ride comfort would increase but to me it felt and still feels as if I lost out quite a bit on the riding behaviour of the car. The RFTs make me feel connected to the road and always in control of the car. The tubeless tyres ( have the Primacy 3ST) provide excellent comfort but I have lost the confidence to push it to speeds. So much so that for my next tyre change, if the need arises, I will opt for RFTs once again.
More details here: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...ml#post4305338 (RFT to Tubeless switch for BMW 320d)
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How about a 2011 E350 V6 Petrol? What could be the expected FE? ARAI: 6-7.
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How about a 2011 E350 V6 Petrol? What could be the expected FE? ARAI: 6-7.
Thanks in advance.
One of my close friends had one. He said 5-6 km/l in the city (Mumbai suburbs). This was chauffeur driven 90% of the time and the remaining 10% by him in a rather spirited manner.

Resale values are terrible for this one (friend sold his a few years back for 17L I think) so you might be able to pick one up for a decent price. But it's an 8 year old Merc so you might end up paying a pretty penny for repairs and maintenance especially if it has an air suspension. If that is not an issue for you then it is a good car - my friend said it is one of the most comfortable cars he's owned.
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But it's an 8 year old Merc so you might end up paying a pretty penny for repairs and maintenance especially if it has an air suspension. If that is not an issue for you then it is a good car - my friend said it is one of the most comfortable cars he's owned.
Thank you. According to this (Driven: The 2010 Mercedes E-Class (W212)) review, 2010 E350 does not have air suspension.

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Thank you. According to this (Driven: The 2010 Mercedes E-Class (W212)) review, 2010 E350 does not have air suspension.
You should be good then since I've heard that while expensive, the regular steel springs won't break the bank in the off chance that things go south. I hope you are getting the car checked by the authorized service centre before making the purchase, regardless of which one you finalize. It will help you make a better decision and in case there are a few minor niggles it can also act as a bargaining chip.

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You should be good then since I've heard that while expensive, the regular steel springs won't break the bank in the off chance that things go south. I hope you are getting the car checked by the authorized service centre before making the purchase, regardless of which one you finalize. It will help you make a better decision and in case there are a few minor niggles it can also act as a bargaining chip.

Best of luck!
Thank you. Yes indeed, need to take her to the Authorized Service Center before finalizing.

Do you know how much the SC will charge for the report, by any chance?

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Thank you. Yes indeed, need to take her to the Authorized Service Center before finalizing.

Do you know how much the SC will charge for the report, by any chance?
I am not sure, but I think it's around Rs. 10,000 at a BMW service centre. I remember reading someone's ownership review here and they'd mentioned it. I was quoted Rs. 2,500 by Solitaire Honda a few years ago. You can always call the dealership up and ask them how much they charge and what all they provide.

Since Rs. 10,000 is pricey you're better off asking for detailed service history records from the dealership where the car was serviced (Linkway or some other dealership agreed to provide them for free to me) and then get a detailed check scheduled for a car once you're confident there are no immediate red flags.
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It is really a relief to see this, and congrats! After going through this thread which has managed to kill a lot of my dreams of owning (and driving) an old (80s-90s) BMW or Merc, at least I know some people still take the risk!

There is another way to approach the whole question, I feel. To me, a car is really a car only if I can drive it when I feel like it. So treating it as something precious (it is) and keeping it in a garage is not for me. So is the approach described below practical?

One buys an old German, say an S-Class of late 90s or early 2000s vintage. Then, he puts in some solid work and money into bringing the car up to high levels of reliability. Is this workable?

For example, one can see old S-Class selling at 7-10 lakhs. How about buying one, and then spending Rs 7-10 lakhs on it right away fixing anything that is important to fix? Will that bring in the much needed reliability? Or, is reliability likely to be iffy even then, and we are talking of spending like Rs 1 lakh-plus or more to keep it running well?

Hope those with experience of keeping old cars can answer!
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For example, one can see old S-Class selling at 7-10 lakhs. How about buying one, and then spending Rs 7-10 lakhs on it right away fixing anything that is important to fix? Will that bring in the much needed reliability? Or, is reliability likely to be iffy even then, and we are talking of spending like Rs 1 lakh-plus or more to keep it running well?
Even I was thinking the same thing. But the thing with cars like S-class or Audi's A6 or A7 is that they are too unreliable. Something or the other keeps failing at their vintage say from 2004-2006-2014 models.

Just have a look at the ownership thread in international forums. The list of repair work is endless and the money that costs to repair them is high. These cars are good only if you have very deep pockets.

From my research in these category of vehicles the 520d or 530d and even 320d are more reliable and won't hurt us much in spares and maintenance costs.

For eg.,The thing with A6 and A7 even S-class is they have air suspension which is very prone to failure, this component is not there in the 5 series.
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For eg., The thing with A6 and A7 even S-class is they have air suspension which is very prone to failure, this component is not there in the 5 series.
Adding to this, a few friends of mine have A6s.

One of them has a 3.0TDI that he bought with a few thousand kilometres on the clock (under 2k if I remember correctly). It's always been cared for well, but he still faced several serious problems during his ownership period. His other car was a Passat which also suffered a gearbox failure. He ended up selling both and now has an E350 CDI.

Another friend has a 2.0TDI which has had suspension issues thrice so far. Unlike the 3.0, it isn't driven that much but is still maintained well.

These cars seem like money-pits since I haven't known a single person who hasn't faced long-term reliability issues.
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