A used W124 E250D? EDIT : Now bought. Thanks!

AirWind · 16th February 2010, 08:39

Folks - Just for my understanding, how different is a W124 in E300D v/s a E250D?

I assume they share the same engine with an additional cylinder and the 300D wasnt sold in India, but what other differences?

GTO · 16th February 2010, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirWind

Folks - Just for my understanding, how different is a W124 in E300D v/s a E250D?

Relevant to India, all the 300D's you'll see are imports. Lower stance + better build (though all the 300Ds will be older too). The 300D (IIRC) had about 25 more horses than the E250D.

canonball · 16th February 2010, 15:01

Very usefull 25 horses more as I find after driving the 2. The other major difference is E300D is a six pot and 250 a 5 pot. The best in the lot are the 94 model authentic E300D's best of both age and power

nandishpal · 16th February 2010, 19:23

also with the 300D you have electric power seats,& auto transmission.few models also came with the sun roof option.also there is a difference in the bumper & the headlamps.

supercars · 25th February 2010, 09:39

I have seen 300 D which came without Power Windows and Airbags. I did not like the feel of that model. Maybe the Engine has a Little Extra Power but they are older than their Indian Cousins.

GTO · 25th February 2010, 18:29

I had noticed an immaculate looking 300D in our classifieds itself. The car was on sale until 2 weeks back. Asking price = 4.5 lakhs. Too high, but surely negotiable.

canonball · 25th February 2010, 18:34

GTO that car is a convert i.e left to right and it is an 88 but airbags are of a much later model. I was about go check it out but felt the asking was a bit stretched. As usual he is an investor so not worth it

GTO · 25th February 2010, 22:44

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Originally Posted by canonball

left to right and it is an 88 but airbags are of a much later model

Well, now that you brought it up, I'll say this : The car is not a convert. It's actually a later model that's been backdated at the time of import to save on duties. I don't think the customs will bother with the duties on a 20 year car now, so it's probably still a good buy.

Run a check on its 124 chassis number

supercars · 27th February 2010, 11:01

GTO can you PM me the details of where this car is in Mumbai ?

canonball · 27th February 2010, 16:31

The wiper is on the wrong side which is why I felt it is a convert and on asking the seller he fained ignorance!

Since you mentioned customes etc I am faced with a similar opposite situation on a car which is actually a 87 shown as 92 and shipped into India in 1997!! So I am confused you have any idea as this case is just the opposite of what you stated. Regarding customs & DRI there seems to no clariety on time periods to reopen cases. Sellers convinientely state what you have, one guy even said they don't open cases after 5 years but cannot furnish any fineprint on it? Do you have any clue how these things work as I have had to trun away from cars because of this. By the way the 300D we are discussing was also shipped into india in 96/97! Dealers who sold these cars often quoted the term bumped up. Inact I was shown similar blue car in 98 stating that this is facelift model like India car and is a 94 when the bonnet and many other things did not add up she turned out to be a 88

without any marking on her but for the seat belt tags

Do sahe any relevant expereince info you might have had as it will help and give piece of mind when buying cars from the 90's

GTO · 27th February 2010, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by supercars

GTO can you PM me the details of where this car is in Mumbai ?

Why PM? I'll put it up here so that others may potentially benefit too.

Seller name : Khalid. No : 9224390410

300D with (supposedly) <70,000 kms. Was owned by the Eastern Shipping Co.

@ Canonball : Safest to buy the Indian E220 / E250 no?

canonball · 28th February 2010, 20:32

You bet my only grouse they are a tad slow in Auto (my preference to drive in Mumbai) :( and doing trial and error with pump setting is a bit er trial and error not to mentione few cars were sold in auto spec

supercars · 2nd March 2010, 03:16

Thank You GTO.

I will contact as soon as I have the time.

supercars · 11th March 2010, 16:49

Can someone give the rest of the review ?

I just found a small part of it.

wanderernomad · 13th March 2010, 22:58

There is one W124 which is a 1993 Mercedes Benz, Made in Stuttgart, 5 Cylinder-250 Diesel, W124, Import. Drove it today the car is slightly sluggish and found the clutch to be lethargic. It takes a long time to engage. Is it true of all W124's? The owner says he has replaced the clutch master cylinder a few months back and that the clutch is ok. Also what should be a good offer price for this car? It has done about 1,12,000 Kms till date. I need to make an offer to him so please do give advise.
Also the following works need to be done:-
1. Central locking not working.
2. Side indicator is missing.
3. ABS light is always on.
4. Power windows need to be checked.
These are the things which the owner told me need work. Rest according to him is perfectly ok.

16th February 2010, 08:39	#121
AirWind BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 924 Thanked: 228 Times View My Garage	Folks - Just for my understanding, how different is a W124 in E300D v/s a E250D? I assume they share the same engine with an additional cylinder and the 300D wasnt sold in India, but what other differences?
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16th February 2010, 15:01	#123
canonball Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	Very usefull 25 horses more as I find after driving the 2. The other major difference is E300D is a six pot and 250 a 5 pot. The best in the lot are the 94 model authentic E300D's best of both age and power
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16th February 2010, 19:23	#124
nandishpal BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 489 Thanked: 73 Times	also with the 300D you have electric power seats,& auto transmission.few models also came with the sun roof option.also there is a difference in the bumper & the headlamps.
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25th February 2010, 09:39	#125
supercars BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 479 Thanked: 26 Times	I have seen 300 D which came without Power Windows and Airbags. I did not like the feel of that model. Maybe the Engine has a Little Extra Power but they are older than their Indian Cousins.
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25th February 2010, 18:29	#126
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 60,066 Thanked: 191,843 Times View My Garage	I had noticed an immaculate looking 300D in our classifieds itself. The car was on sale until 2 weeks back. Asking price = 4.5 lakhs. Too high, but surely negotiable.
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25th February 2010, 18:34	#127
canonball Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	GTO that car is a convert i.e left to right and it is an 88 but airbags are of a much later model. I was about go check it out but felt the asking was a bit stretched. As usual he is an investor so not worth it Last edited by canonball : 25th February 2010 at 18:40.
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27th February 2010, 11:01	#129
supercars BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 479 Thanked: 26 Times	GTO can you PM me the details of where this car is in Mumbai ?
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27th February 2010, 16:31	#130
canonball Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	The wiper is on the wrong side which is why I felt it is a convert and on asking the seller he fained ignorance! Since you mentioned customes etc I am faced with a similar opposite situation on a car which is actually a 87 shown as 92 and shipped into India in 1997!! So I am confused you have any idea as this case is just the opposite of what you stated. Regarding customs & DRI there seems to no clariety on time periods to reopen cases. Sellers convinientely state what you have, one guy even said they don't open cases after 5 years but cannot furnish any fineprint on it? Do you have any clue how these things work as I have had to trun away from cars because of this. By the way the 300D we are discussing was also shipped into india in 96/97! Dealers who sold these cars often quoted the term bumped up. Inact I was shown similar blue car in 98 stating that this is facelift model like India car and is a 94 when the bonnet and many other things did not add up she turned out to be a 88 without any marking on her but for the seat belt tags Do sahe any relevant expereince info you might have had as it will help and give piece of mind when buying cars from the 90's Last edited by canonball : 27th February 2010 at 16:40.
	() Thanks

28th February 2010, 20:32	#132
canonball Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	You bet my only grouse they are a tad slow in Auto (my preference to drive in Mumbai) :( and doing trial and error with pump setting is a bit er trial and error not to mentione few cars were sold in auto spec
	() Thanks

2nd March 2010, 03:16	#133
supercars BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 479 Thanked: 26 Times	Thank You GTO. I will contact as soon as I have the time.
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11th March 2010, 16:49	#134
supercars BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 479 Thanked: 26 Times	This is a Magazine Report Can someone give the rest of the review ? I just found a small part of it. Attached Thumbnails
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13th March 2010, 22:58	#135
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 2,500 Thanked: 1,065 Times View My Garage	There is one W124 which is a 1993 Mercedes Benz, Made in Stuttgart, 5 Cylinder-250 Diesel, W124, Import. Drove it today the car is slightly sluggish and found the clutch to be lethargic. It takes a long time to engage. Is it true of all W124's? The owner says he has replaced the clutch master cylinder a few months back and that the clutch is ok. Also what should be a good offer price for this car? It has done about 1,12,000 Kms till date. I need to make an offer to him so please do give advise. Also the following works need to be done:- 1. Central locking not working. 2. Side indicator is missing. 3. ABS light is always on. 4. Power windows need to be checked. These are the things which the owner told me need work. Rest according to him is perfectly ok.
	() Thanks

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