[entropy]

Folks

I need your advice whether this deal looks ok. There is a 1700 km done Q7 3.0 TDI (3 months old) being offered at 57.5 lakhs. I guess it can be brought down to 54-55 lakhs. Following are the extras previous owner
had put:

- 20" alloy
- Bright roof rails
- Metallic paint (sycamore green)
- Manual blinds for rear windows
- Open sky system
- BOSE sound system

A new configuration with above would cost around 65 lakhs. I inspected the vehicle and it looked almost new except or a minor scratch in rear bumper. Engine mechanicals are all Ok. The reason owner is selling is due to relocatiing abroad.

Please advise what would be the right price to offer for this. And whether it would be advisable to go for this used Q7 rather than a new Q7 but with standard configuration. I need this advise quick as need to respond to the sales person today.

Thanks

[Sahil]

I'd rather pay the 10% more and get a new one. Considering the drop in resale since it would become 3rd hand when you get rid of it. Or a new slightly lesser equipped version for almost the same price.

Negotiate harder if he is willing to come down considerably, it might be a good deal.

[entropy]

Thanks Sahil.

Let me check how much it can be bargained for. Frankly I'd rather prefer
standard 18" alloys over 20" considering where I live. Also not very keen on
the panoramic sunroof hence there is a doubt if at all Q7 then going for new
at slight premium might be a better idea ...

[morphin1]

Is the car accidental?
What kind of warranty does the car come with?
Can you afford a new one or are you stretching your budget to get this used one?
Do you know about after sales cost of the car like service, spares etc?

[dins]

hello friend

• I would rather suggest get a new AUDI Q7 one with your own taste of color & interior of personal taste,
• RESALE value in future will also fetch you a good rate if you are a single owner.
• if bought a new one depreciation of the AUDI Q7, you can claim in your books of accounts which will be a big figure unless you wanna settle this Q7 with cash and cheque.
• NEW is always new _secondhand is secondhand .
• plus the on road price for 3.0 diesel in mumbai comes to 70 lakhs with discount of 2 lakhs the price tage comes to 68 lakhs and the car will roll down from Germany in max 3 months

my friend has booked Q7 so I have a fare idea
In today scenrio the discounts are more with more freebies
end of the day your call will matter as the vehicle which you like ,you always wanna buy it but commercial aspects has to be seen.
heart and mind always work in different direction.

[entropy]

Thanks dins, morphin1 for the input. I have given a quote. Lets see how it goes.

The car is not accidental. I have little idea of maintenance costs and spares
but have understanding that these are going to be pretty costly (I'm
assuming on average about a lakh per year for this). The car is only 3 months
old so expect the standard warranties would hold.

Still as Sahil, dins have suggested it might be a better idea to go with
a new vehicle as you get to choose your configuration and its not
everyday that one buys a car like this. Still if the deal happens at price I
have quoted it would be a good compromise. If not perhaps I'm going
to book a new one later this month.

Oh .. and there is a second thought. How is Prado in comparison. Much
cheaper to own I guess (Though little snob value which really doesn't
matters for me). I am little concerned about the reliability of Q7 vs Prado.
How are the reliability reports for Q7. Since I live in LKO taking the car
to Delhi frequently for any niggling issues would be a nightmare.

Thanks

[GTO]

As others have posted, go for brand new instead.

Originally Posted by entropy

I'm
assuming on average about a lakh per year for this

For the initial 2 years, atleast 1.0+ lakhs per year. There on, bank on anywhere between 2 - 2.75 lakhs per year.

I am little concerned about the reliability of Q7 vs Prado.
How are the reliability reports for Q7.

The Prado will be infinitely more reliable and will probably outlast you (and the next generation ). It is a far superior offroader too....amongst the best, in fact. However, the Prado will not give you the Euro-feel-good factor, gizmos, interior quality nor is it officially sold in diesel.

[ecclipse78]

Originally Posted by entropy

Folks

I need your advice whether this deal looks ok. There is a 1700 km done Q7 3.0 TDI (3 months old) being offered at 57.5 lakhs. I guess it can be brought down to 54-55 lakhs. Following are the extras previous owner
had put:

- 20" alloy
- Bright roof rails
- Metallic paint (sycamore green)
- Manual blinds for rear windows
- Open sky system
- BOSE sound system

A new configuration with above would cost around 65 lakhs. I inspected the vehicle and it looked almost new except or a minor scratch in rear bumper. Engine mechanicals are all Ok. The reason owner is selling is due to relocatiing abroad.

Please advise what would be the right price to offer for this. And whether it would be advisable to go for this used Q7 rather than a new Q7 but with standard configuration. I need this advise quick as need to respond to the sales person today.

Thanks

If you can wait for a few months and don't need 7 seats, I would suggest you get the Q5.

This should be between 45 to 50 lacs on road with options.

[entropy]

Thanks GTO, ecclipse78 for the input.

2.5 lakhs plus a year to maintain is a bit on the higher side I guess. Is
this normal maintenance expense ? Aren't there warranties etc to cover
a part of this at least for the first 3 to 5 years or so.

Eventhough my heart would go for the euro-solid-feel, gizmos and feel
good factor, ultimately head says following for the priorities I need:

1. Trouble free (I really hate hassles of any sort, cost is secondary)
2. Trouble free (Yes it is really that important)
3. Refinement/build quality (the feel good factor)
4. Safety
5. Space (7 seats) and Ride Comfort
6. Performance (0-100, handling etc.)

Based on above how would you rate Q7 against Prado. Please help me
decide.

[GTO]

1. Trouble free (I really hate hassles of any sort, cost is secondary)
2. Trouble free (Yes it is really that important)

For supreme reliability, why don't you check out some used Landcruiser / LX470s? There is also the option of a 4.2 diesel. You'd fall in love with the massive size, comfort, offroadability, reliability and durability of the Landcruiser. There is a reason why everyone from the UN to the Taliban use them . Plus, they are prestigious & charming in their own right. Like the Prado, a well-maintained Landcruiser will probably outlast you (no need to consider the Prado). 2005 - 2006 build models will be well within your budget. If I were you, the LC would be on top of my list...over even the Q7s, Touaregs & Cayennes of the world.

Pics of a beautiful LC from another Team-BHP thread:

[indra_slk]

I think its a good deal. But i am going with Sahil's opinion. At that price you get a brand new Q7 but base model. Is this the S-Line? As our Q7 is coming in S-Line. Let me clarify one thing. The S-Line cost 70 lac on road and base cost 58 lac on road. Only if you need all these features, buy the used car or instead pick up a new one.

[entropy]

GTO, the LC looks gorgeous. However I'm not sure
1. how/where a genuine sample can be procured
2. If it can be maintained as there are no official channels

indra_slk, I'm also inclined for a new one. The sample I had seen
has already found a buyer. Seems my price was about a lakh lower.
Anyway don't regret it .. perhaps there is something good about it :-)

Other day, I checked out Prado. The interiors were a big let-down.
The last row is practically unusable as my knees were pointing to
the stars. Should be used as 5 seater max I think. The control and
switches were looking generation old. For the price (about 44 lakhs
on-road), doesn't looks good value to me. It was a big
disappointment for me as I was truly banking on this.

Anyways, Q7 I guess should not be too problematic. Plus the feel
good factor would be there in plenty. Looking forward to book a new
one in coming weeks. Should update as and when it happens.

Thanks for all the responses and advice folks. It really helped in
making up my mind.

[jayakumarkp]

Hi GTO,

Isnt the one in the picture a Lexus? Even those (Lexus SUV) are called LandCruiser?I was of the impression Toyota sold LandCruisers under their own badge.

[GTO - Touring]

Originally Posted by jayakumarkp

Isnt the one in the picture a Lexus? Even those (Lexus SUV) are called LandCruiser?I was of the impression Toyota sold LandCruisers under their own badge.

Toyotas luxo arm - Lexus - rebadges Landcruisers & Prados as their own. These are generally a little more luxurious / loaded variants. Some local dealers gauged our fascination with the Lexus brand and started Toyota Landcruiser -> Lexus LX470 converts in house! Search around the forum for more info.

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by GTO

For supreme reliability, why don't you check out some used Landcruiser / LX470s? Like the Prado, a well-maintained Landcruiser will probably outlast you (no need to consider the Prado). 2005 - 2006 build models will be well within your budget. If I were you, the LC would be on top of my list...over even the Q7s, Touaregs & Cayennes of the world.

Amen. But if you dont plan to go off the road (and how many do, in 60-lakh vehicles? - I stayed behind a LX470 during my recent Kerala trip out of respect for a while but couldnt stand it when the chap went over light potholes gingerly) the Q7 is quite a decent road-ripper (not the Cochin type) provided you have the right engine inside.