Mercedes for 4-5 lakhs.

ajmat · 8th February 2010, 22:32

re- the 202

If petrol - beware the ECU is prone to failure after 10 yrs
If diesel - check glow plugs - they fail after 3 yrs / 70k km - may be less in our condtions. Check for chuffing noises and paraffin like smells - means injector seals blown

Rust on rear arches also check front suspention control arms. Made of stamped layered sheets instead of forged unit hence prone to rust

Kick down problems on an auto could be faulty air mass sensor

MileCruncher · 8th February 2010, 23:04

As Ajmat rightly said Merc quality went to dogs round about the 1995-96 period. so buying an earlier model would be better. But prices seem to be still very high.

BTW I always thought that Merc engines were reputed to run a million miles before overhauling and that was one of the primary reasons for them being so reputed in Africa

hillram · 8th February 2010, 23:36

4 Lacs is too high for this car.Right price would be 2.0-2.5 Lakhs.

Machdar · 9th February 2010, 10:19

Thanks Ajmat, Mile Cruncher & Hillram,

Will take all your advise and drop this 126 out of my radar.

I kind of agree that the quality did go down post 96. My concern is I picked a 124 and now want a smaller car for easier city usage. An auto for daily traffic in blr.

If the 202 is not recommended then what do I pick up?

Any suggestions ? And any directions to start looking at?

PhantomLord · 9th February 2010, 12:57

You can give W201-190D a thought, here is one
Team-BHP Classifieds - Mercedes Benz 190D - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds

Machdar · 9th February 2010, 13:24

Hi Phantom Lord,

I saw that one but the economics does not work bringing into Bangalore and registration etc..

Do you reckon that the 201 platform was better built than the 202?

PhantomLord · 9th February 2010, 13:53

W201 is definitely sturdier and cheaper to maintain compared to W202, but it all depends on the condition of the car you end up buying. Read up more about it here Mercedes-Benz W201 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, it too has huge fan following. There is petrol version 190 E, I have seen 190 E 2.5 with Bangalore number, not sure if its for sale, it had KA-03 plate.

Since these cars are rare in India, if you find a good one negotiate to cut down on economics needed to get the car registered in Bangalore.

canonball · 10th February 2010, 19:48

The mumbai 190d needs repaint and interior refurbish, paint may be done with a reseaonable budget but interior some of those bits will make you cry sourcing them, not to mention crazy prices and 3X duty on importing 2nd hand parts even if you source the interior form overseas!!

Machdar · 11th February 2010, 10:34

I guess I am better of hunting in Bangalore. Also its easier to to do two -three test drives in case you just dont feel right the first time. FLying down to buy a car is a little tough!
How many 201's & 202's are in India? Any idea? Anyone else own a 202 on this forum?

ajmat · 12th February 2010, 15:50

I used a w202 back to back against a w201. With the exception of space, boot access and lack of gadgets, the 190E was more superior. shall we say, my uncle who downsized from w124 to the 190e and then blindly went for a C180, found no charm to stick to a merc and went for a BMW 316. I must add, he got peanuts for the w202 which gave no trouble and had low miles.

Machdar · 12th February 2010, 16:34

Okay so finally someone who has owned a 202 on this forum. So you reckon I go for 201 if I get one rather than a 202?

At times I still think of the SEL knowing well its too big to use everyday but the battle between my heart & the head continues.

I think I should listen to my head and get a small merc now that I have picked up a 124? Right?

Machdar · 19th February 2010, 17:54

Guys new query how much can one pay for a w114/115?

I am attaching some pics. How much is okay for this car? And any reviews, feedback etc on this platform of compacts??

canonball · 22nd February 2010, 17:38

Seems like a neat rebuild not sure why owner put w210/w124 alloys?! Is it a 200D with column shift? Look out for accident/frame repair - straigtened a lot of them were either totalled or subframe has been completely rebuilt with local sheet metal ( good experienced skilled tinman = strainght car) hood is either warped or not shut right?!

Some more details will help us give you our opinion of the price. What have you been quoted?

Machdar · 22nd February 2010, 19:24

Hi Canonball,

Will be checking this car this week will keep you posted on the offer! As of now just got these two pics mailed to me.

V-16 · 22nd February 2010, 20:44

The car looks clean from pics. What series is it? Is it a W114 or a W115 and these W210 (E220cdi/E240) alloys look sick!!

8th February 2010, 22:32	#76
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,085 Thanked: 20,729 Times View My Garage	re- the 202 If petrol - beware the ECU is prone to failure after 10 yrs If diesel - check glow plugs - they fail after 3 yrs / 70k km - may be less in our condtions. Check for chuffing noises and paraffin like smells - means injector seals blown Rust on rear arches also check front suspention control arms. Made of stamped layered sheets instead of forged unit hence prone to rust Kick down problems on an auto could be faulty air mass sensor
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8th February 2010, 23:04	#77
MileCruncher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,128 Thanked: 458 Times View My Garage	As Ajmat rightly said Merc quality went to dogs round about the 1995-96 period. so buying an earlier model would be better. But prices seem to be still very high. BTW I always thought that Merc engines were reputed to run a million miles before overhauling and that was one of the primary reasons for them being so reputed in Africa
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8th February 2010, 23:36	#78
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,922 Thanked: 1,245 Times View My Garage	4 Lacs is too high for this car.Right price would be 2.0-2.5 Lakhs.
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9th February 2010, 10:19	#79
Machdar BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 199 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Thanks Ajmat, Mile Cruncher & Hillram, Will take all your advise and drop this 126 out of my radar. I kind of agree that the quality did go down post 96. My concern is I picked a 124 and now want a smaller car for easier city usage. An auto for daily traffic in blr. If the 202 is not recommended then what do I pick up? Any suggestions ? And any directions to start looking at?
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9th February 2010, 12:57	#80
PhantomLord BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 37 Thanked: 24 Times	You can give W201-190D a thought, here is one Team-BHP Classifieds - Mercedes Benz 190D - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds
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9th February 2010, 13:24	#81
Machdar BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 199 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Hi Phantom Lord, I saw that one but the economics does not work bringing into Bangalore and registration etc.. Do you reckon that the 201 platform was better built than the 202?
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9th February 2010, 13:53	#82
PhantomLord BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 37 Thanked: 24 Times	W201 is definitely sturdier and cheaper to maintain compared to W202, but it all depends on the condition of the car you end up buying. Read up more about it here Mercedes-Benz W201 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, it too has huge fan following. There is petrol version 190 E, I have seen 190 E 2.5 with Bangalore number, not sure if its for sale, it had KA-03 plate. Since these cars are rare in India, if you find a good one negotiate to cut down on economics needed to get the car registered in Bangalore. Last edited by PhantomLord : 9th February 2010 at 13:55.
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10th February 2010, 19:48	#83
canonball Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	The mumbai 190d needs repaint and interior refurbish, paint may be done with a reseaonable budget but interior some of those bits will make you cry sourcing them, not to mention crazy prices and 3X duty on importing 2nd hand parts even if you source the interior form overseas!!
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11th February 2010, 10:34	#84
Machdar BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 199 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	I guess I am better of hunting in Bangalore. Also its easier to to do two -three test drives in case you just dont feel right the first time. FLying down to buy a car is a little tough! How many 201's & 202's are in India? Any idea? Anyone else own a 202 on this forum?
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12th February 2010, 15:50	#85
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,085 Thanked: 20,729 Times View My Garage	I used a w202 back to back against a w201. With the exception of space, boot access and lack of gadgets, the 190E was more superior. shall we say, my uncle who downsized from w124 to the 190e and then blindly went for a C180, found no charm to stick to a merc and went for a BMW 316. I must add, he got peanuts for the w202 which gave no trouble and had low miles.
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12th February 2010, 16:34	#86
Machdar BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 199 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Okay so finally someone who has owned a 202 on this forum. So you reckon I go for 201 if I get one rather than a 202? At times I still think of the SEL knowing well its too big to use everyday but the battle between my heart & the head continues. I think I should listen to my head and get a small merc now that I have picked up a 124? Right?
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19th February 2010, 17:54	#87
Machdar BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 199 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Guys new query how much can one pay for a w114/115? I am attaching some pics. How much is okay for this car? And any reviews, feedback etc on this platform of compacts?? Attached Images
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22nd February 2010, 17:38	#88
canonball Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	Seems like a neat rebuild not sure why owner put w210/w124 alloys?! Is it a 200D with column shift? Look out for accident/frame repair - straigtened a lot of them were either totalled or subframe has been completely rebuilt with local sheet metal ( good experienced skilled tinman = strainght car) hood is either warped or not shut right?! Some more details will help us give you our opinion of the price. What have you been quoted?
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22nd February 2010, 19:24	#89
Machdar BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 199 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Hi Canonball, Will be checking this car this week will keep you posted on the offer! As of now just got these two pics mailed to me.
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22nd February 2010, 20:44	#90
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,583 Thanked: 903 Times View My Garage	The car looks clean from pics. What series is it? Is it a W114 or a W115 and these W210 (E220cdi/E240) alloys look sick!!
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