Which VFM Performance Sedan ? EDIT- Skoda Superb 2.0 TDI PD now bought!!!

brraj · 24th April 2009, 10:44

To confuse you more

Skoda superb 3.6 FSI - 0-100 - 6.6 sec.
lancer mivec - 0-100 - 6.7 sec (all under 7.5lkhs & you dont have to be too careful in city at all)

Akshay1234 · 24th April 2009, 10:49

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Originally Posted by brraj

To confuse you more

Skoda superb 3.6 FSI - 0-100 - 6.6 sec.
lancer mivec - 0-100 - 6.7 sec (all under 7.5lkhs & you dont have to be too careful in city at all)

then again the mivec is so much smaller and dosent have any features + he has to go through the process of swapping whereas with the superb he gets it right from the dealership.

ImmortalZ · 24th April 2009, 10:51

He will have to baby the Superb though. It might come with an Indian price tag, but repairs will certainly be European.

brraj · 24th April 2009, 11:03

Lancer is anyway great handler, he just have to run on neovas and better brake pads. The kit will come with all side disk brakes aswell or how will a cedia+mivec engine sound.

Skoda superb 3.6 FSI - 25lakhs
lancer mivec - 7.5lkhs

Price difference is too much and i think he can go through the process of swapping easily as he has mentioned that he can wait for 6+months aswell. People in bombay, chennai have already tried & tested so he can get all the help from them.

reignofchaos · 24th April 2009, 11:27

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Not much can be coaxed out of that engine. Not an option unless he wants to go for an EVO conversion.

If one is open to turbo'ing, that block can do 250bhp reliably without engine failures. Thats what the rally boys are doing.

SkyWalker · 24th April 2009, 11:44

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Originally Posted by brraj

To confuse you more

lancer mivec - 0-100 - 6.7 sec (all under 7.5lkhs & you don't have to be too careful in city at all)

Whoa! Under 6.7s? And how reliable is this MIVEC conversion? I haven't seen any long term reviews here, maybe i should search harder.

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If one is open to turbo'ing, that block can do 250bhp reliably without engine failures. That's what the rally boys are doing.

yep. i remember reading in ACI somewhere that the rallyboys are hitting 200+ bhp without much sweat in in this one.

entropy · 24th April 2009, 11:49

Folks

How does one get holds of this Lancer MIVEC one. Sorry but I'm a complete novice here so help me understand this. Also how well rounded a package this would be. It looks like a car purpose built for only one thing - performance. How is it going to be maintained and do the routine upkeep if anything goes wrong esp at a place where I live.

Sure performance is what I want primarily but I would prefer the package to be a well rounded one (meaning it can take to other boring duties as I have mentioned in my first post) and wouldn't mind some luxury and comfort to go with it

even if it requires some extra dough.

Rephrasing my requirement - Require a VFM performance but practical sedan that can be used for everyday tasks also.

brraj · 24th April 2009, 11:49

@Skywalker & @entropy
Check this thread
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...cer-mivec.html

i guess you can contact them for your needs in mumbai
KS Motorsport...>>>

karthik247 · 24th April 2009, 12:39

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Originally Posted by entropy

Sure performance is what I want primarily but I would prefer the package to be a well rounded one (meaning it can take to other boring duties as I have mentioned in my first post) and wouldn't mind some luxury and comfort to go with it

even if it requires some extra dough.

Rephrasing my requirement - Require a VFM performance but practical sedan that can be used for everyday tasks also.

Get a used Skoda Octavia RS (as new ones are not available). You could get one under under 8lakhs, throw in 2-3lakhs for mods and your done. It'll be faster than the Lancer Mivec and more comfy and safe too. Might even smoke the new Accord V6.

Its fast, safe, very well equipped, you'll get it at half the price of the new Accord V6, lots of room for mods performance wise.

AirWind · 24th April 2009, 15:37

If you are vary of a used Octavia RS, you can still buy a new Octavia 1.8 TPi and pimp it to your needs! Chip it, add 16" alloys, fatter rubber, headers, FFE, much more and still save ~10 lakhs on your budget (of 25L).

abhayshanu · 24th April 2009, 23:38

Guys, JMD skoda has 3.6 TSI is stock i think, atleast released as it is shown on their site. here is a link - Buy Skoda Superb 3.6 TSI Petrol in Mumbai

v1p3r · 25th April 2009, 02:11

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Originally Posted by SkyWalker

Whoa! Under 6.7s? And how reliable is this MIVEC conversion? I haven't seen any long term reviews here, maybe i should search harder.

Stock Mivec will not do those times, but yes it is quick, and great fun to drive. And karthik, they're quicker than an RS.

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Originally Posted by SkyWalker

yep. i remember reading in ACI somewhere that the rallyboys are hitting 200+ bhp without much sweat in in this one.

No chance of 'without much sweat'. Nothing is left stock on those cars, except the crankcase.

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

If one is open to turbo'ing, that block can do 250bhp reliably without engine failures. Thats what the rally boys are doing.

How can you compare a super-high-compression NA race setup to a daily drive turbo setup?

the_stranger · 25th April 2009, 08:27

The rear leg room is bad in the 3 series. Using the rear seats regularly is a pain in that car. I'm pretty sure the leg room is less than the laura. But it's one of the best cars to drive

SkyWalker · 25th April 2009, 13:54

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Originally Posted by brraj

@Skywalker & @entropy
Check this thread
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...cer-mivec.html

thanks brraj!

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Stock Mivec will not do those times, but yes it is quick, and great fun to drive. And karthik, they're quicker than an RS.

quicker than an RS is saying a lot! good piece of Info.

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No chance of 'without much sweat'. Nothing is left stock on those cars, except the crankcase.

well, guess u cant believe everything you read

thanks for that clarification.

d3mon · 25th April 2009, 16:03

Mivec. Yummy.

Well as it produces 175bhp stock, it will smoke any Octy RS out there.

And if you keep it stock, no reliability issues !

Really a case of having your cake and eating it too.

Go for it. The superb will be a pain to maintain, and you will have to be careful in the city. The lancer, on the other hand, you could throw around with wild abandon

24th April 2009, 10:44	#31
brraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 867 Thanked: 897 Times	To confuse you more Skoda superb 3.6 FSI - 0-100 - 6.6 sec. lancer mivec - 0-100 - 6.7 sec (all under 7.5lkhs & you dont have to be too careful in city at all) Last edited by brraj : 24th April 2009 at 10:45.
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ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,152 Thanked: 349 Times View My Garage	He will have to baby the Superb though. It might come with an Indian price tag, but repairs will certainly be European.
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24th April 2009, 11:03	#34
brraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 867 Thanked: 897 Times	Lancer is anyway great handler, he just have to run on neovas and better brake pads. The kit will come with all side disk brakes aswell or how will a cedia+mivec engine sound. Skoda superb 3.6 FSI - 25lakhs lancer mivec - 7.5lkhs Price difference is too much and i think he can go through the process of swapping easily as he has mentioned that he can wait for 6+months aswell. People in bombay, chennai have already tried & tested so he can get all the help from them. Last edited by brraj : 24th April 2009 at 11:05.
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entropy BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lost Posts: 405 Thanked: 49 Times	Folks How does one get holds of this Lancer MIVEC one. Sorry but I'm a complete novice here so help me understand this. Also how well rounded a package this would be. It looks like a car purpose built for only one thing - performance. How is it going to be maintained and do the routine upkeep if anything goes wrong esp at a place where I live. Sure performance is what I want primarily but I would prefer the package to be a well rounded one (meaning it can take to other boring duties as I have mentioned in my first post) and wouldn't mind some luxury and comfort to go with it even if it requires some extra dough. Rephrasing my requirement - Require a VFM performance but practical sedan that can be used for everyday tasks also.
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24th April 2009, 11:49	#38
brraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 867 Thanked: 897 Times	@Skywalker & @entropy Check this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...cer-mivec.html i guess you can contact them for your needs in mumbai KS Motorsport...>>> Last edited by brraj : 24th April 2009 at 11:58.
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24th April 2009, 15:37	#40
AirWind BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 925 Thanked: 228 Times View My Garage	If you are vary of a used Octavia RS, you can still buy a new Octavia 1.8 TPi and pimp it to your needs! Chip it, add 16" alloys, fatter rubber, headers, FFE, much more and still save ~10 lakhs on your budget (of 25L).
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24th April 2009, 23:38	#41
abhayshanu BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 698 Thanked: 179 Times View My Garage	Guys, JMD skoda has 3.6 TSI is stock i think, atleast released as it is shown on their site. here is a link - Buy Skoda Superb 3.6 TSI Petrol in Mumbai
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25th April 2009, 08:27	#43
the_stranger BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: A.P Posts: 42 Thanked: 2 Times	The rear leg room is bad in the 3 series. Using the rear seats regularly is a pain in that car. I'm pretty sure the leg room is less than the laura. But it's one of the best cars to drive
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25th April 2009, 16:03	#45
d3mon BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 704 Thanked: 1,650 Times	Mivec. Yummy. Well as it produces 175bhp stock, it will smoke any Octy RS out there. And if you keep it stock, no reliability issues ! Really a case of having your cake and eating it too. Go for it. The superb will be a pain to maintain, and you will have to be careful in the city. The lancer, on the other hand, you could throw around with wild abandon
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