New Accord or any other equivalent? EDIT : Accord it is!

Ramkumar · 26th August 2009, 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

Ramkumar what about the toyota Frotuner. Amazing GC, good diesel engine and very spacious.

I enquired at Nandi toyota yesterday about the Fortuner and the salesman says that the total number of fortuner to be produced this year is 700 and they already have 2300 bookings. So any fortuner booked now will be delivered only in the months of Jan and Feb. So there is no meaning even considering it.

Vid6639 · 26th August 2009, 08:48

Ramkumar, that is what the dealer's say. More often than not Toyota will ramp up production as they did not expect such a huge response. I would say hold on for a while and I'm sure the waiting will come down.

It is just the new car hype that is creating the long wait. It will all come down soon.

vasudeva · 26th August 2009, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramkumar

I enquired at Nandi toyota yesterday about the Fortuner and the salesman says that the total number of fortuner to be produced this year is 700 and they already have 2300 bookings.

Could be true most likely but it is the style of most dealers to over-state the demand-supply to (a) persuade the customer to buy now and get the clock ticking (b) not having to give discounts.

Toyota is saying 2400 per annum of production.

Anyway Accord is in a different segment and has a different class than Fortuner. However, they are quite good substitutes.

Ramkumar · 26th August 2009, 22:39

Hyundai today gave me a Transform for half a day for TD. I have been driving the Sonata Transform since afternoon all over the city. The car that came to me was a CRDI automatic. The car is a brilliant car even though i didnt enjoy the automatic as much as in Superb, the accelerator seems to rise without reason between gears. i dont know if thats how automatics work but i am positive that it was not like this in the superb when i TD it yesterday. Sonata was very good once we cross 80kms speed it was cruising beautifully and didnt even feel like a diesel.
The luxury which Accord exudes is missing in the sonata even though its equally large. GC of the Sonata is more than the Accord.
Sonata diesel is cheaper by 3lacs than the Accord(petrol) on the road.
My heart is with Accord but my brain says Sonata.
Please help me make a decision.

Vid6639 · 26th August 2009, 22:43

You want only AT? Why not the Sonata Manual.

Ramkumar · 26th August 2009, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

You want only AT? Why not the Sonata Manual.

I am looking only at manuals but the Sonata that came was an automatic. I am now considering either the Accord 2.4 MT or the Sonata 2.0 CRdi MT.

I have to make a decision but totally confused.

StarVegabond · 26th August 2009, 23:11

my 2 cents

you can consider following parameters & makeup your mind

1. How latest is the design, Buying a modern design helps a lot.
2. what are the features being offered. Safety, Convenience, Entertainment, Luxury are key
3. Whether you need a SEDAN or an SUV like would do ?
3. Reliability of the car is extreemly important
4. Cost of ownership including service cost (and time)
5. Brand

If you look at the Brands & Products being offered i see the following

1. Toyota
2. Honda
3. Volkswagen
4. Skoda
5. Hyundai

I would go with the reliability, customer service and lower cost of ownership of Japanese brands. European cars are more known for build performance and also for customer service. But in India the European brands are not known fro customer service.

Vid6639 · 26th August 2009, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramkumar

I am looking only at manuals but the Sonata that came was an automatic. I am now considering either the Accord 2.4 MT or the Sonata 2.0 CRdi MT.

I have to make a decision but totally confused.

Don't buy the Manual Sonata without a TD. It's different because the engine has a bit of turbo lag which takes getting used to in the manual box.

Also if size is not an important criteria, you should also consider the VW Jetta. It's a really good car and the after sales is also better than Skoda.

They have a very nice 4.99% interest rate offer with a 4 year warranty and a 4 year maintenance plan. The DSG box with paddles and good handling make this a very fun car to drive.

loving_alaap · 26th August 2009, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaver_prad

Product wise its not that bad, But the Sonata will surely not hold its value when it comes to selling it

But still is the wise 2nd choice, if you add the *** cost of skoda / VW or highly priced Camry.

Vid6639 · 26th August 2009, 23:42

I just remembered the Chevrolet Cruze is rumoured to be out in a couple of months.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post1451354

2L 150PS diesel engine.

Ramkumar · 28th August 2009, 05:55

Thanks everyone. after much deliberation and lot of help from you all, i have booked the Honda Accord. It will be delivered on Monday. I have booked a Accord 2.4 MT elegance Black colour.

Ramsagar · 28th August 2009, 08:19

Congrats on booking the Accord.Is petrol suitable for you?

why can't you test drive Captiva & Fortunner.should definitely fit the bill.

I'm sure waiting period of Fortunner comes down by at least a month or two.Its only the hype created by the dealers.Here lot of people have canceled the bookings after looking @ interiors.

ACM · 2nd September 2009, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsagar

Congrats on booking the Accord.Is petrol suitable for you?

why can't you test drive Captiva & Fortunner.should definitely fit the bill.

I'm sure waiting period of Fortunner comes down by at least a month or two.Its only the hype created by the dealers.Here lot of people have canceled the bookings after looking @ interiors.

Congrats on the Accord

Yep quite a few people have cancelled booking out here too seeing the interiors are similar to Innova though they were bowled over by exterior initially.

If kms/mth are more Sonata diesel would have more sense vs the accord petrol though it has poor resale.

FlyingSpur · 12th October 2009, 00:44

Hey Ramkumar, where are the pictures?

StarVegabond · 12th October 2009, 10:18

Hi Ramkumar,

Congratulations on your new Honda Accord
it is a great (CxO) car

Have great time with your new car
post pictures (if possible)

26th August 2009, 08:48	#17
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,729 Thanked: 43,464 Times View My Garage	Ramkumar, that is what the dealer's say. More often than not Toyota will ramp up production as they did not expect such a huge response. I would say hold on for a while and I'm sure the waiting will come down. It is just the new car hype that is creating the long wait. It will all come down soon.
	() Thanks

26th August 2009, 22:39	#19
Ramkumar BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 58 Thanked: 0 Times	Hyundai today gave me a Transform for half a day for TD. I have been driving the Sonata Transform since afternoon all over the city. The car that came to me was a CRDI automatic. The car is a brilliant car even though i didnt enjoy the automatic as much as in Superb, the accelerator seems to rise without reason between gears. i dont know if thats how automatics work but i am positive that it was not like this in the superb when i TD it yesterday. Sonata was very good once we cross 80kms speed it was cruising beautifully and didnt even feel like a diesel. The luxury which Accord exudes is missing in the sonata even though its equally large. GC of the Sonata is more than the Accord. Sonata diesel is cheaper by 3lacs than the Accord(petrol) on the road. My heart is with Accord but my brain says Sonata. Please help me make a decision.
	() Thanks

26th August 2009, 22:43	#20
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,729 Thanked: 43,464 Times View My Garage	You want only AT? Why not the Sonata Manual.
	() Thanks

26th August 2009, 23:11	#22
StarVegabond Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,891 Thanked: 42 Times	my 2 cents you can consider following parameters & makeup your mind 1. How latest is the design, Buying a modern design helps a lot. 2. what are the features being offered. Safety, Convenience, Entertainment, Luxury are key 3. Whether you need a SEDAN or an SUV like would do ? 3. Reliability of the car is extreemly important 4. Cost of ownership including service cost (and time) 5. Brand If you look at the Brands & Products being offered i see the following 1. Toyota 2. Honda 3. Volkswagen 4. Skoda 5. Hyundai I would go with the reliability, customer service and lower cost of ownership of Japanese brands. European cars are more known for build performance and also for customer service. But in India the European brands are not known fro customer service. Last edited by StarVegabond : 26th August 2009 at 23:18.
	() Thanks

26th August 2009, 23:42	#25
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,729 Thanked: 43,464 Times View My Garage	I just remembered the Chevrolet Cruze is rumoured to be out in a couple of months. https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post1451354 2L 150PS diesel engine.
	() Thanks

28th August 2009, 05:55	#26
Ramkumar BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 58 Thanked: 0 Times	Booked The Accord Thanks everyone. after much deliberation and lot of help from you all, i have booked the Honda Accord. It will be delivered on Monday. I have booked a Accord 2.4 MT elegance Black colour.
	() Thanks

28th August 2009, 08:19	#27
Ramsagar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: BLR_Nellore(AP) Posts: 1,396 Thanked: 252 Times View My Garage	Congrats on booking the Accord.Is petrol suitable for you? why can't you test drive Captiva & Fortunner.should definitely fit the bill. I'm sure waiting period of Fortunner comes down by at least a month or two.Its only the hype created by the dealers.Here lot of people have canceled the bookings after looking @ interiors.
	() Thanks

12th October 2009, 00:44	#29
FlyingSpur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 1,422 Times View My Garage	Hey Ramkumar, where are the pictures?
	() Thanks

12th October 2009, 10:18	#30
StarVegabond Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,891 Thanked: 42 Times	Hi Ramkumar, Congratulations on your new Honda Accord it is a great (CxO) car Have great time with your new car post pictures (if possible)
	() Thanks