Sedan for Dad ? Superb / Passat / A4

Mt.olympus · 15th January 2010, 23:33

Hi My dad who is using Octavia & Merc C , is considering for an upgrade for Octavia.. the vehicle will be chauffeur driven and hence the primary concern is the Back seat comfort ,next one is the running cost , will be running daily about 80-100 kms average , only diesel preferred and hence accord is ruled out, maintanence shouldn't also be very much, Dad is very much satisifed with C's back seat comfort and performance but, cant afford it for daily use coz of damn running cost... so looking for something cheaper with same performance......

redeff · 16th January 2010, 09:56

All the car's you talk about are not low on maintainance. The A4 will cost you as much as a brand new C/3. The superb is a great car, for back seat comfort it has but a few rivals. It is however slightly noisy, but the noise should not be an issue at all in the back seat. It too shall NOT be 'cheap' to maintain as such. Forget the Passat. If not for the slightly expensive maintainace, the superb fits your requirements perfectly.

Speeding@160mph · 16th January 2010, 14:09

+1 to Redeff - Unless the Accord diesel shows up soon or the Passat CC gets launched, stick to the Superb.

But if you're willing to spend 35-37lacs on the A4 Diesel, you can get the Centennial Special on the A6 at around 40lacs....just a thought...

prateekm · 16th January 2010, 14:55

As you have an Octavia, you might be knowing the A.S.S of Skoda at your place. If it was good, I recommend a Superb. Passat is overpriced and we all know it. TD all and select the best one

FlyingSpur · 16th January 2010, 14:55

Unless an upgrade to the 20 lac+ segment is necessary, I suggest the Cruze. It's phenomenal. And looks the part, too. The Skoda isn't going to be cheap to maintain, furthermore with a daily running of ~100km the Skoda's reliability will be in question. Peace of mind, it definitely isn't.

Else I recommend the Passat. I don't know wht people have against it, its definitely proven to be be more reliable than the Superbespecially in CRDi guise. And loaded to the gills.

Speeding@160mph · 16th January 2010, 17:56

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Originally Posted by flyingspur

Else I recommend the Passat. I don't know wht people have against it

Isn't VW pulling an Octavia/Laura with the Passat? Atleast thats what i thought, that the Passat has been replaced by the CC - Regardless, VV should have brought the CC to market by now considering its been out for over a year!

also....i forgot about the Cruz, its great VFM! - Good suggestion by Spur

Gurpartap Singh · 16th January 2010, 18:05

^ What about the Back seat comfort that Mt.olympus asked for, in Cruze? I remember reading that it isn't the best for sitting at back.

anekho · 16th January 2010, 18:22

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Originally Posted by Speeding@160mph

Isn't VW pulling an Octavia/Laura with the Passat? Atleast thats what i thought, that the Passat has been replaced by the CC - Regardless, VV should have brought the CC to market by now considering its been out for over a year!

also....i forgot about the Cruz, its great VFM! - Good suggestion by Spur

passat has not been replaced by the cc - it is sold along side internationally aswell!

akshaymahajan · 16th January 2010, 18:25

Have a look at the Sonata transform. Have heard a lot of positive reviews about that vehicle.
PS: Why not go for an SUV ( Toyota Fortuner). It satisfies all your criteria and is a Toyota.

Speeding@160mph · 16th January 2010, 18:44

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Originally Posted by anekho

passat has not been replaced by the cc - it is sold along side internationally aswell!

really? Well...i stand corrected! But the 'alongside' part should be fulfilled by VW - I mean the CC is probably the best looking VW ever! And It Costs the same (I would think)! Shame!

redeff · 16th January 2010, 18:58

The interiors of the other cars spoken in this thread are a league apart from the Fortuner's. Besides , the Fortuner comes well equipped with amazingly long waiting lines. The Sonata transform is an excelling option if he does not wish to spend on a superb, but then the feel , image, back seat comfort and the equippment levels are a league apart , alebiet the slightly stiff ride ( which also results in superb being better to drive, both car's suffer from turbo lag enmasse).

Sahil · 16th January 2010, 19:24

No brainer.... Think back seat. Think good FE. Think Superb !

McLaren Rulez · 16th January 2010, 19:26

Chauffer driven car? No contest, this one. It has to be the Superb with the huge back seat. Given that you had an Octy and are still considering the Superb, Skoda must be doing a decent job in your place. I guess the Superb will be cheaper to maintain than a Merc but obviously will still be way more expensive than the Octy. Check ACI's spare parts guide for an approximate idea.

Sahil · 16th January 2010, 20:09

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Check ACI's spare parts guide for an approximate idea.

Is the updated spare part list out? With the new Superb ?

FlyingSpur · 16th January 2010, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Speeding@160mph

Isn't VW pulling an Octavia/Laura with the Passat? Atleast thats what i thought, that the Passat has been replaced by the CC - Regardless, VV should have brought the CC to market by now considering its been out for over a year!

also....i forgot about the Cruz, its great VFM! - Good suggestion by Spur

its not replaced. its sold alongside. if the cc comes to india they have a customer waiting.

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Originally Posted by Gurpartap Singh

^ What about the Back seat comfort that Mt.olympus asked for, in Cruze? I remember reading that it isn't the best for sitting at back.

its no better or worse than the c-class he has.

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Originally Posted by akshaymahajan

Have a look at the Sonata transform. Have heard a lot of positive reviews about that vehicle.

oh yeaaaaaah. how did i not think of my absolute favourite?

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Originally Posted by Sahil

Is the updated spare part list out? With the new Superb ?

jan 08 and then march 09. i dont know when we'll see it in '10.

15th January 2010, 23:33	#1
Mt.olympus BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Palakkad/Mangalore Posts: 80 Thanked: 3 Times	Sedan for Dad ? Superb / Passat / A4 Hi My dad who is using Octavia & Merc C , is considering for an upgrade for Octavia.. the vehicle will be chauffeur driven and hence the primary concern is the Back seat comfort ,next one is the running cost , will be running daily about 80-100 kms average , only diesel preferred and hence accord is ruled out, maintanence shouldn't also be very much, Dad is very much satisifed with C's back seat comfort and performance but, cant afford it for daily use coz of damn running cost... so looking for something cheaper with same performance......
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16th January 2010, 09:56	#2
redeff BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 356 Thanked: 272 Times View My Garage	All the car's you talk about are not low on maintainance. The A4 will cost you as much as a brand new C/3. The superb is a great car, for back seat comfort it has but a few rivals. It is however slightly noisy, but the noise should not be an issue at all in the back seat. It too shall NOT be 'cheap' to maintain as such. Forget the Passat. If not for the slightly expensive maintainace, the superb fits your requirements perfectly.
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16th January 2010, 14:09	#3
Speeding@160mph BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 185 Thanked: 6 Times	+1 to Redeff - Unless the Accord diesel shows up soon or the Passat CC gets launched, stick to the Superb. But if you're willing to spend 35-37lacs on the A4 Diesel, you can get the Centennial Special on the A6 at around 40lacs....just a thought...
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16th January 2010, 14:55	#4
prateekm BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai & BLR Posts: 790 Thanked: 553 Times	As you have an Octavia, you might be knowing the A.S.S of Skoda at your place. If it was good, I recommend a Superb. Passat is overpriced and we all know it. TD all and select the best one
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16th January 2010, 14:55	#5
FlyingSpur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 1,422 Times View My Garage	Unless an upgrade to the 20 lac+ segment is necessary, I suggest the Cruze. It's phenomenal. And looks the part, too. The Skoda isn't going to be cheap to maintain, furthermore with a daily running of ~100km the Skoda's reliability will be in question. Peace of mind, it definitely isn't. Else I recommend the Passat. I don't know wht people have against it, its definitely proven to be be more reliable than the Superbespecially in CRDi guise. And loaded to the gills. Last edited by FlyingSpur : 16th January 2010 at 14:57.
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16th January 2010, 18:05	#7
Gurpartap Singh BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chandigarh — PB Posts: 209 Thanked: 4 Times	^ What about the Back seat comfort that Mt.olympus asked for, in Cruze? I remember reading that it isn't the best for sitting at back.
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16th January 2010, 18:25	#9
akshaymahajan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 597 Thanked: 449 Times	Have a look at the Sonata transform. Have heard a lot of positive reviews about that vehicle. PS: Why not go for an SUV ( Toyota Fortuner). It satisfies all your criteria and is a Toyota.
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16th January 2010, 18:58	#11
redeff BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 356 Thanked: 272 Times View My Garage	The interiors of the other cars spoken in this thread are a league apart from the Fortuner's. Besides , the Fortuner comes well equipped with amazingly long waiting lines. The Sonata transform is an excelling option if he does not wish to spend on a superb, but then the feel , image, back seat comfort and the equippment levels are a league apart , alebiet the slightly stiff ride ( which also results in superb being better to drive, both car's suffer from turbo lag enmasse).
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16th January 2010, 19:24	#12
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	No brainer.... Think back seat. Think good FE. Think Superb !
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16th January 2010, 19:26	#13
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Chauffer driven car? No contest, this one. It has to be the Superb with the huge back seat. Given that you had an Octy and are still considering the Superb, Skoda must be doing a decent job in your place. I guess the Superb will be cheaper to maintain than a Merc but obviously will still be way more expensive than the Octy. Check ACI's spare parts guide for an approximate idea.
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