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Old 23rd April 2011, 22:52   #1
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RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

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Since my friend is not a member at Team-BHP, I wanted to create this post and share with you, his experience in RRP Hyperdrive-ing his Mitsubishi Cedia.

I will update this post continuously till the build isn't complete.

To the mods :- If you have any apprehension that I am making a post which is for a friend and it is not okay by the forum rules, please let me know and I will delete this immediately.

So this is how it all started.
My friend, Anmol, wanted to buy a new powerful car. His options were:

1) Nissan 370z
2) Lancer Evolution X
3) Land Rover Discovery 4

He went and test drove all the cars. Chucked all of them off the list for the following reasons:

Nissan 370z - Not worth spending approximately 30-35 lakh extra for the car. Delivery time was 3 months, not willing to wait. Seating position was extremely low.

Lancer Evolution X - Mitsubishi was offering no discount on the 2010 model. No 2011 model was available. No seat height adjustment in the car. Better options available in the 50 lakh bracket.

Discovery 4 - Already too many SUV's at home.

So then it was decided to buy a second hand Mitsubishi Cedia.
The process for looking for a non accidental Cedia started three weeks back. He contacted many many dealers, none of them had a cedia in chandigarh. There were two available
1. Cedia 2006 Model, Yellow colour, re-painted. Price offered - 3.5 lakh.
Did not buy because the car was accidental.

2. Cedia 2009 model, White colour. This was also re-painted. Price offered 6 lakh.
Did not buy because it was too expensive for a second hand accident car.

So the decision was taken to buy a New Cedia. His dad's decision, because the resale of cedia, second owner, second hand, would have been very less.

He then contacted Red Rooster Performance, (the car wasn't booked at this stage)
It was a pleasure to talk to Mr. Sangeeth, the guy heading his build. Very down to Earth person, provided him with all details that were required. Very very helpful and had immense knowledge of each part that was going to go in the car, what function it would perform and how it would effect the car.

His first reaction to RRP Hyperdrive was, "Anmol, are you sure you want a hyperdrive package. RRP Turbodrive would do just fine".

Anmol did not say a no to his suggestion. But after a few hours, he gets a call back from Sangeeth telling him that the Connecting rods in the stock cedia and the pistons cannot withstand the turbo pressures. So the decision was taken to install the RRP Hyperdrive package. The details of the package as quoted by him are as follows.

01. Engine upgrade – RRP Hyper Drive Kit: Rs. 4,65,000.00

Fixing of Hyper Drive Kit comprising of

· Turbocharger – Garrett (GT25) (USA)

· Intercooler –Garrett(USA)

· ECU- Haltech (Australia)

· Pistons – JE Pistons (USA)

· Connecting Rods- PAR (USA)

· Injectors-BOSCH (Germany)

· Fuel Pressure Regulator- Turbosmart (AUSTRALIA)

· Stage 2 Clutch- Centerforce (USA)

· Blow off valve, Turbosmart (AUSTRALIA)

· Cold Air Intake System , BMC (Italy)

· Free flow exhaust, RRP homemade

· Plumbing for the turbo

· NGK Spark Plugs

· Bonnet Scoop

02. Brakes High Performance brake pads from Mintex ( Front and Rear) : Rs. 27,500.00 (MRP)

03. TEIN SuperStreet(With EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller)) -Price: Rs. 1,18,500.00 (MRP)

04. Toora

· Kill Switch- 4250.00

· Bonnet Pins-1600.00

05. Labor Cost for all 30,000.00 Rs.

06. Compomotive Rims - Price not given as yet.
07. Defi gauges

The prices seemed fine to him, hence the deal was finalized.

Now came the booking of the car part. The car was booked with full payment because the car was not gonna come to Chandigarh. The temporary number, insurance was issued in Chandigarh and shipped to Bangalore. The delivery of the car was directly to Bangalore, it wasn't gonna come to Chandigarh from the Mitshu plant. Directly to bangalore and after tuning, then to chandigarh. The number plates, authority letter, insurance and temporary number slip was sent to Mr. Sangeeth at Red Rooster who would take the delivery of the car.

The build time of the car is approx. 15 days. Build will start on 27th of May.

In the meantime, Mr. Sangeeth send a dyno graph of the hyper drive cedia which is attached. There is immense power increase.

I will keep on updating this post as the build proceeds. Anmol will go RRP workshop on the last 5 days of the build.
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Old 23rd April 2011, 23:15   #2
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Re: RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

4.65L for 226 whp? And putting all this in a brand new car from factory? I'd love to be in your friend's shoes.
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Haha yes, even i wish to be in his shoes. lol
A white cedia from the factory to the RRP station.
and 4.65 is a good deal, dont You think so?

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Re: RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

Just can't wait to see Rattan's Cedia. In constant contact with him. He's so damn excited . I'm excited too !

By the way , Chiragh , Any idea about the weight reduction inside the car ?
Like removing the rear ones and replacing the front ones with buckets.

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For the kind of internals that are being put inside, 220 whp is a joke imo. Those can easily take upwards of 350 with a bigger turbo. However that is a decision that your friend has to take. If he's fine with 220, so be it. Just giving my honest and educated opinion
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Hmm, pranavt can you share some more details about what your talking. He probably doesnt know this.

And you suggest a bigger turbo, or increase in pressure. Current pressure is set to 7 psi
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Re: RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

226whp should be something like 300 bhp at the engine!Should be a very entertaining cedia!Will follow this thread closely.

So 4.65+10 lakhs(approx) for a new cedia=15 lakhs(approx)=300 bhp

Btw what about new tyres?
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New tires will be bought after the stock ones run out. These things will be done back in chandigarh, wont hassle with this in bangalore.

He also ordered some street glow neons and led's for a very very cheap price
The list is:

StreetGlow SGLEDSTGR Green L.E.D. Strips - Pack of 2 - Rs. 1600
StreetGlow AN3GR 3-Inch Green Ultra Mini-Neon Tube Pack of 2 - Rs. 2500
StreetGlow AN9WH 9-Inch White Mini-Neon Tube - Pack of 2 - Rs 2200
StreetGlow FFLED15GR 15" Green LED Light Bar - Pack of 2 - Rs. 2000
StreetGlow SGLST12GR 12" Green LED Strips (2) - Rs 1800.00

Total - 10,100
Amt Paid - Rs 7300 (rest was discount)

Brought through shopyourworld.com

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Re: RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

Well since he has the cash, why not just get an Evo 9 conversion done through RRP.

Or if he is sticking to this then it might be possible to transplant an AWD kit into this. That would make it really, really good since it would put down its power effortlesssly.

Pranav - 350 would be overkill for a FWD car, what say?
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Re: RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

Interesting project. Really keen to see the outcome,should be fun

Btw considering all the parts being used,especially the pistons and rods, why just 220 whp ? the internals can handle much more.300whp is easy with this setup.Just need a slightly bigger turbo.

What turbo manifold are they gonna use ? Make their own or get some readymade one ? If yes which one ?

How about going for some nice slotted rotors along with the upgraded pads ?

Another thought, if he is doing such a major build, why not pay some attention towards chassis/suspension improvements other than those coilovers ? Like strut braces, better sway bar,H brace and so on ? This should make the car even better handler and far more fun.

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226whp should be something like 300 bhp at the engine!Should be a very entertaining cedia!Will follow this thread closely.
Not really, more like 260hp at crank.
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Re: RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

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Hmm, pranavt can you share some more details about what your talking. He probably doesnt know this.

And you suggest a bigger turbo, or increase in pressure. Current pressure is set to 7 psi
Is the above dyno graph of a cedia running at 7 psi ?
If yes then increase in pressure is all you need to get more power.

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Re: RRP Hyperdrive in a friend's Mitsu Cedia

He should go with a GT28R turbo. It pretty much the ideal size for the Cedia and widely used by most of the turbo guys.

Which Haltech are you using? Can you get the model number?

Other than that love the entire build, its gonna be one fun car.

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226whp should be something like 300 bhp at the engine!Should be a very entertaining cedia!Will follow this thread closely.
Please don't throw around transmission loss numbers for fun or to exaggerate brake horsepower claims.

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Pranav - 350 would be overkill for a FWD car, what say?
Those parts can take 500 hp without breaking a sweat. And in a neutral handling car with the kind of suspension he's running, 350 would be pretty sweet.

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Hmm, pranavt can you share some more details about what your talking. He probably doesnt know this.

And you suggest a bigger turbo, or increase in pressure. Current pressure is set to 7 psi
Up the boost for some more. But ideally a bigger turbo should be used since this one will be pretty inefficient at higher pressures and just increase the intake charge temperatures.
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Those parts can take 500 hp without breaking a sweat. And in a neutral handling car with the kind of suspension he's running, 350 would be pretty sweet.

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I meant purely in terms of traction. When launching, it will struggle for traction. With an AWD setup it will be so much better through corners and while launching.

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I meant purely in terms of traction. When launching, it will struggle for traction. With an AWD setup it will be so much better through corners and while launching.
Not sure if his Haltech supports it, but I guess he can easily do boost by gear/rpm. So have 3-4 psi in 1st gear at 4000, 5-7 psi by redline, 10 psi in 2nd gear at 4000 and so on. Boost control is pretty easy with most standalone solutions, even the Honda standalones can do this without any problem.
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