MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel

deepakchiniwal · 5th June 2011, 11:51

Has anyone tried the Mahle Oil Filters on the Swift/Dzire Diesel?

Please suggest.

Neil.Bhujbal · 5th June 2011, 16:58

Mahle Oil/Air Filters is a local brand. (Made in India)

They have oil & air filters for various cars. Air filters & oil filters for petrol is fine but i wouldn't recommend diesel filters.

I know of a swift D on which a Mahle oil filter was used and within few kms the engine check light started showing up. When connected to a scanner it showed something wrong with the oil pressure switch.

We changed the oil filter to MGP one & the car ran fine with no engine check lights.

Maybe there was something wrong with that particular filter but then why take the risk ?

On the other hand i have also seen 100's of Mahle oil/air filters being used on various petrol cars (few diesels like indica & accents too) & they all are run fine.

GTO · 5th June 2011, 19:18

Tell you words of wisdom when it comes to oil filters = STICK WITH OEM. I usually get the oil changed outside, as my cars only run on Mobil 1. Hence, the filter is sourced from the authorised dealer only. There are rather cheap to start off with, so there's really not much of a difference between their & after-market pricing.

Back to your specific question, Mahle is an OEM supplier to many brands; I would trust their quality. But again, stick to whatever Maruti uses as OEM stuff. There are other ways to lighten your wallet (e.g. K&N oil filters), though honestly, I just don't see the point.

shibujp · 5th June 2011, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil.Bhujbal

Mahle Oil/Air Filters is a local brand. (Made in India)

They have oil & air filters for various cars. Air filters & oil filters for petrol is fine but i wouldn't recommend diesel filters.

I know of a swift D on which a Mahle oil filter was used and within few kms the engine check light started showing up. When connected to a scanner it showed something wrong with the oil pressure switch.

We changed the oil filter to MGP one & the car ran fine with no engine check lights.

Maybe there was something wrong with that particular filter but then why take the risk ?

On the other hand i have also seen 100's of Mahle oil/air filters being used on various petrol cars (few diesels like indica & accents too) & they all are run fine.

I had the same incident repeated to me by a technician in the MASS I frequent while we were discussing the very same issue. I had used a LUCAS oil filter when there was a shortage of MGP filters. Cost half the price - I personally did not have any problem but the technician said they faced an oil pressure problem with one of the cars that did the same.

Drive on,
Shibu.

gaurav_chopra04 · 6th June 2011, 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil.Bhujbal

Mahle Oil/Air Filters is a local brand. (Made in India)

This is like saying "Maruti Suzuki is a local brand, made in India".

First, Mahle is not an Indian company but German. The company is one of the largest automotive supplier in the world. In fact, it ranks among the top three systems suppliers worldwide for piston systems, cylinder components, as well as valve train, air management, and liquid management systems. They supply parts to almost all OEMS across the globe including BMW, Mercedes, VW group, etc.

Please google before you stereotype a BRAND

.

http://www.mahle.com/MAHLE/en/Home_EN

Second whats wrong if a part is manufactured in India. We should be proud of it. Mahle already has production plants in India and plans to open another one shortly.

MAHLE Group | Chennai

GTO · 6th June 2011, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04

The company is one of the largest automotive supplier in the world.

You betcha! Among others, Mahle is an OEM supplier to Audi, BMW, Ducati, Ferrari, Honda, Hyundai, Maserati, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Porsche, Toyota and Volkswagen. It's as top notch a parts manufacturer as they come.

Neil.Bhujbal · 12th June 2011, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04

Please google before you stereotype a BRAND

.

MAHLE Group | Home

Second whats wrong if a part is manufactured in India. We should be proud of it. Mahle already has production plants in India and plans to open another one shortly.

MAHLE Group | Chennai

Extremely sorry. My bad should have googled a little

deepakchiniwal · 20th July 2011, 12:39

Ok, here is an Update on MAHLE Oil Filter.

Gave the Filter to Service Advisor in MASS, asked him to check if this can be used instead of the MGP. He called after sometime and informed this is the same filter we use as MGP and should not be a problem. I am using it for last 750 kms and havent seen any issues yet.

Cost difference: I paid 120rs while the one at MASS costs 480rs.

Crazy4.Cars · 13th May 2012, 10:37

hi deepak,

can you post more information about the Mahle oil filter?

where did u get it from? what was the name of the filter? was it purolator? how is the performance of the same?

abhijitl · 13th May 2012, 18:29

Hi, I think Mahle filters are quite ok. I have used them & no complaints at all.

navpreet318 · 13th May 2012, 20:45

MAHLE Filter Systems India Limited

Mahle Filters is part of the Anand Group of companies which has various companies in JV with the best in the world. Gabriel, Spicer-Dana, Mando Brake, Behr Air conditioning, perfect circle etc. Literally every vehicle in India has a part which has been made by Anand Group.
If you see the customers of Mahle, nearly allbig companies are included. What happens in case of many companies including maruti is that the filter is branded MGP while it is made by Mahle. Maruti as such has no oil or air filter making plant. They are all sourced by vendors.
A problematic example given above might be a wrong filter application. A lot of filters share the same threads and can be installed on a lot of cars. But what matters is the oil pressure grading of the filters. This might simply be a wrong pressure application of the filter.

The companies under Anand group are good. And the fact that they are made in India and not china should make us proud as well as assured that the quality will be better. We are better in terms of quality any day. I am doing my internship at Spicer Dana Jodalli, Karnataka. I am amazed by the quality of machines used here. CNC machines from MAZAK. no.1 in the world. They have tolerances of 3-5 microns here and imagine have a repeatability of this tolerance in over 3 lakh parts which are shipped every month to companies in india as well as abroad in nearly equal ratio. This is simply stupendous.

Never and I mean NEVER look down upon a product made in India. I have seen and am part of the management and control at this plant and this is world class by any standards. Each and every machine is run by Proper qualified engineers and not semi skilled workers. Yes Proper Mechanical Engineers actually operate the machines. Even the plant heads and other high officials have risen from being operating engineers so have an in and out knowledge of each and every operation.

mankamble · 16th November 2012, 04:58

I have installed a K&N apollo kit on my swift deisel, My Car machanic says it will hamper my Turbo, I disagree with his theory, Experts comments please

pranavt · 16th November 2012, 15:33

Mahle is one of the biggest OE suppliers in the World. Right up there with companies like Denso. In fact, Mahle is responsible for the pistons in most of the F1 engines on the grid today!

fighterace · 16th January 2013, 20:18

Mahle is the same company that makes Purolator filter elements. Guess that'll be a more familiar name.

sajurchristy · 7th October 2017, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by pranavt

Mahle is one of the biggest OE suppliers in the World. Right up there with companies like Denso. In fact, Mahle is responsible for the pistons in most of the F1 engines on the grid today!

mahle oem and aftermarket supply are of different quality as per mass and local workshops

5th June 2011, 11:51	#1
deepakchiniwal BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 353 Thanked: 28 Times	MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel Has anyone tried the Mahle Oil Filters on the Swift/Dzire Diesel? Please suggest.
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5th June 2011, 16:58	#2
Neil.Bhujbal BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 192 Thanked: 90 Times	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel Mahle Oil/Air Filters is a local brand. (Made in India) They have oil & air filters for various cars. Air filters & oil filters for petrol is fine but i wouldn't recommend diesel filters. I know of a swift D on which a Mahle oil filter was used and within few kms the engine check light started showing up. When connected to a scanner it showed something wrong with the oil pressure switch. We changed the oil filter to MGP one & the car ran fine with no engine check lights. Maybe there was something wrong with that particular filter but then why take the risk ? On the other hand i have also seen 100's of Mahle oil/air filters being used on various petrol cars (few diesels like indica & accents too) & they all are run fine.
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5th June 2011, 19:18	#3
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,501 Thanked: 300,623 Times View My Garage	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel Tell you words of wisdom when it comes to oil filters = STICK WITH OEM. I usually get the oil changed outside, as my cars only run on Mobil 1. Hence, the filter is sourced from the authorised dealer only. There are rather cheap to start off with, so there's really not much of a difference between their & after-market pricing. Back to your specific question, Mahle is an OEM supplier to many brands; I would trust their quality. But again, stick to whatever Maruti uses as OEM stuff. There are other ways to lighten your wallet (e.g. K&N oil filters), though honestly, I just don't see the point.
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20th July 2011, 12:39	#8
deepakchiniwal BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 353 Thanked: 28 Times	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel Ok, here is an Update on MAHLE Oil Filter. Gave the Filter to Service Advisor in MASS, asked him to check if this can be used instead of the MGP. He called after sometime and informed this is the same filter we use as MGP and should not be a problem. I am using it for last 750 kms and havent seen any issues yet. Cost difference: I paid 120rs while the one at MASS costs 480rs.
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13th May 2012, 10:37	#9
Crazy4.Cars BHPian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 254 Thanked: 47 Times	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel hi deepak, can you post more information about the Mahle oil filter? where did u get it from? what was the name of the filter? was it purolator? how is the performance of the same?
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13th May 2012, 18:29	#10
abhijitl BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 51 Thanked: 16 Times	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel Hi, I think Mahle filters are quite ok. I have used them & no complaints at all.
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13th May 2012, 20:45	#11
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,264 Thanked: 2,983 Times	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel MAHLE Filter Systems India Limited Mahle Filters is part of the Anand Group of companies which has various companies in JV with the best in the world. Gabriel, Spicer-Dana, Mando Brake, Behr Air conditioning, perfect circle etc. Literally every vehicle in India has a part which has been made by Anand Group. If you see the customers of Mahle, nearly allbig companies are included. What happens in case of many companies including maruti is that the filter is branded MGP while it is made by Mahle. Maruti as such has no oil or air filter making plant. They are all sourced by vendors. A problematic example given above might be a wrong filter application. A lot of filters share the same threads and can be installed on a lot of cars. But what matters is the oil pressure grading of the filters. This might simply be a wrong pressure application of the filter. The companies under Anand group are good. And the fact that they are made in India and not china should make us proud as well as assured that the quality will be better. We are better in terms of quality any day. I am doing my internship at Spicer Dana Jodalli, Karnataka. I am amazed by the quality of machines used here. CNC machines from MAZAK. no.1 in the world. They have tolerances of 3-5 microns here and imagine have a repeatability of this tolerance in over 3 lakh parts which are shipped every month to companies in india as well as abroad in nearly equal ratio. This is simply stupendous. Never and I mean NEVER look down upon a product made in India. I have seen and am part of the management and control at this plant and this is world class by any standards. Each and every machine is run by Proper qualified engineers and not semi skilled workers. Yes Proper Mechanical Engineers actually operate the machines. Even the plant heads and other high officials have risen from being operating engineers so have an in and out knowledge of each and every operation.
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16th November 2012, 04:58	#12
mankamble Newbie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Secunderabad Posts: 16 Thanked: 2 Times	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel I have installed a K&N apollo kit on my swift deisel, My Car machanic says it will hamper my Turbo, I disagree with his theory, Experts comments please
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16th November 2012, 15:33	#13
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel Mahle is one of the biggest OE suppliers in the World. Right up there with companies like Denso. In fact, Mahle is responsible for the pistons in most of the F1 engines on the grid today!
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16th January 2013, 20:18	#14
fighterace BHPian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Delhi Posts: 261 Thanked: 153 Times	Re: MAHLE Oil filters - Swift/Dzire Diesel Mahle is the same company that makes Purolator filter elements. Guess that'll be a more familiar name.
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