Project Baleno IRL - Improving rear looks

shuvc · 10th May 2006, 11:44

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Originally Posted by balenopower

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during one of my amateur attempts at modifying the rear on my comp, I was trying to do exactly what I see on this pic ..
The 'Maruti Suzuki' and 'Baleno' badges here, are at the top edges of the rear. Did you change the position ? It's at a lower level, between the lights in my car. I think yours look better.

shuvc · 10th May 2006, 11:48

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Originally Posted by SRK

Guys I think this may replace the existing baleno:-
Suzuki AERIO
Looks a mix of the aveo and honda city,may be a possibility why Suzuki isnt interested in improving the looks of Baleno.

This is already being sold in Indonesia, badged as a Baleno Next-G
http://www.suzuki.co.id/
So it's quite possible this may replace the Baleno .. if it does, I'm glad I already bought it. I think this looks a lot worse than the City.

balenopower · 10th May 2006, 19:17

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Originally Posted by shuvc

The 'Maruti Suzuki' and 'Baleno' badges here, are at the top edges of the rear. Did you change the position ?

Nopes shuvc's thts where i got them...btw they're all oxidised...need to change them..byw try one more thing...in photoshop try increasing the size of the rear no plate...let it fill out the rear..just c the diff..thts wht im doin next...

SRK · 10th May 2006, 20:32

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Originally Posted by balenopower

..byw try one more thing...in photoshop try increasing the size of the rear no plate...let it fill out the rear..just c the diff..thts wht im doin next...

i have done that.The rear looks different and more attractive to me.
But since I have not done the work in detail I wont be posting it for sometime.
And I'll be giving a new design at the end of this month (after my exams!!!!)

spadival · 25th May 2006, 14:04

Still no news on IRL :(..

shrivz · 25th May 2006, 21:29

i wanna convert my rear taillamps to LED's... i think that should be a cost effective way of IRL of the baleno.. any inputs on this.. who does LED work etc??? i already have 205mm tires and they've considerably reduced the bulge, but on stock steel rims! :P dont have cash to putin alloys...

cheers!
Shrivz...

kpzen · 25th May 2006, 22:35

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Originally Posted by shrivz

i wanna convert my rear taillamps to LED's... i think that should be a cost effective way of IRL of the baleno.. any inputs on this.. who does LED work etc??? i already have 205mm tires and they've considerably reduced the bulge, but on stock steel rims! :P dont have cash to putin alloys...

I wonder how u run 205 fat rubber with 5j rims in Baleno which is way too small.....I would suggest u to spend on alloys rather than LED stuff...

shrivz · 25th May 2006, 22:37

OT: i'll post a few pics of my tires soon... but thats besides the point.. i do want alloys.. need to build up cash for that..

BUSA · 11th June 2006, 08:39

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Originally Posted by shrivz

OT: i'll post a few pics of my tires soon... but thats besides the point.. i do want alloys.. need to build up cash for that..

How about one of these.. they look quite cool.

mclaren1885 · 11th June 2006, 10:24

Its taking us a rather long while to get the tail lamps done up .. Major hassles being having to concentrate on studies as our engineering exams are coming up , finding a guy who can match our standards working on glass etc .. For the moment the project is on hold .. Will put up details if any improvements ..

SRK · 13th June 2006, 11:28

Guys! I think we need to go for a led setup,and if you really wanna be creative we can even design the light setup (i mean the placement of LEDs).
As it will have the same frame,it will just be a replacement,so no cutting-shutting.
Also if done on a large scale,it will be cost effective.

Heres whats in my mind.
We make a prototype (by using different materials eg:- wood,pop,etc.) then we place the leds in order we want.
Then we go and get the moulds prepared and the last step will be finding a person who will get all these in the respective materials.
Also it will help us to recognize team member's baleno on road!!!
But there are some drawbacks';
like where and how to get the materials moulded in the required shape on a small scale.
Also we need to have a talk with an electrician as Leds require less power than Bulbs so we need some resistors of what value,and many small obstacles in our way,but it is NOT Impossible.
So what do you guys think??

shrivz · 13th June 2006, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRK

Guys! I think we need to go for a led setup,and if you really wanna be creative we can even design the light setup (i mean the placement of LEDs).
As it will have the same frame,it will just be a replacement,so no cutting-shutting.
Also if done on a large scale,it will be cost effective.

Heres whats in my mind.
We make a prototype (by using different materials eg:- wood,pop,etc.) then we place the leds in order we want.
Then we go and get the moulds prepared and the last step will be finding a person who will get all these in the respective materials.
Also it will help us to recognize team member's baleno on road!!!
But there are some drawbacks';
like where and how to get the materials moulded in the required shape on a small scale.
Also we need to have a talk with an electrician as Leds require less power than Bulbs so we need some resistors of what value,and many small obstacles in our way,but it is NOT Impossible.
So what do you guys think??

I think what SRK's saying is absolutely right.. we can try out various designs, we need to find someone wholl do a cheap prototyping job... once the prototype is approved, we can work on the final product...

cheers!
Shrivz...

supremeBaleno · 15th June 2006, 13:53

Nice to know that such a lot of guys are putting in so much of effort/time to make the Baleno's rear look better. I was also pretty excited about this project when it was started, since for years I believed that the rear was the main reason (another reason being wrong pricing by MUL) preventing people from buying this car thus resulting in a good car not getting its due in the market.

But today after owning the car for 15 months, my perspective has changed. I now actually love (a lot) the rear the way it is and would not change it no matter what. It not only looks great, but also stands apart from the normal crowd of sedans. Last weekend, we drove to Yercaud and whenever we stopped for a smoke, I would go stand behind the car, admiring the rear.

Also, when the Baleno was initially launched, the competition consisted of head-turners like the OHC, Astra, Lancer etc. The first two are no longer sold new, while the third has lost its charm and not many seem to be buying it anyway. And the current crop of competitors cannot hold a candle to the Baleno when it comes to looks. Just look at the Fiesta (different looking but not definitely goodlooking, even kind of small-car looks), the Aveo (a crushed from all sides Optra look), the NHC (less said the better) etc. So, as McD would say, I'm Lovin' it.

Edit :
P.S.: BTW, this is just my opinion and not to discourage any of you guys who are working on the new look.

theMAG · 15th June 2006, 15:05

I really feel the Baleno's clunker looks is due to its square jawed boot. This is the design flaw that needs to be addressed. Tail lights modification alone don't matter a dime. The particular problem with that square boot is that it starts high-up behind the C-pillar.

The down-slope of the roofline as it approaches the C-pillar has to be more pronounced for the bootlip to modified effectively in the 1st place. Then, the bootline can be silhoutted like the next-gen Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/88542.jpg

Also, Maruti India is not capable of any redesign as they've shown over the past 2 decades. So really, its upto Suzuki's replacement of the Baleno that would tell us whether they've learnt from their previous design fiascos.

SRK · 17th June 2006, 21:24

Guys I have made an attempt to just facelift or should I say rearlift the car's look.
It looks a lil different from what it is now but the difference is not much.
Will be posting as soon as my broadband starts working.
Hope you can wait till then..

25th May 2006, 14:04	#95
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Still no news on IRL :(..
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25th May 2006, 21:29	#96
shrivz BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pune, MH12 Posts: 604 Thanked: 96 Times View My Garage	i wanna convert my rear taillamps to LED's... i think that should be a cost effective way of IRL of the baleno.. any inputs on this.. who does LED work etc??? i already have 205mm tires and they've considerably reduced the bulge, but on stock steel rims! :P dont have cash to putin alloys... cheers! Shrivz...
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25th May 2006, 22:37	#98
shrivz BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pune, MH12 Posts: 604 Thanked: 96 Times View My Garage	OT: i'll post a few pics of my tires soon... but thats besides the point.. i do want alloys.. need to build up cash for that..
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11th June 2006, 10:24	#100
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Its taking us a rather long while to get the tail lamps done up .. Major hassles being having to concentrate on studies as our engineering exams are coming up , finding a guy who can match our standards working on glass etc .. For the moment the project is on hold .. Will put up details if any improvements ..
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13th June 2006, 11:28	#101
SRK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,201 Thanked: 524 Times	Guys! I think we need to go for a led setup,and if you really wanna be creative we can even design the light setup (i mean the placement of LEDs). As it will have the same frame,it will just be a replacement,so no cutting-shutting. Also if done on a large scale,it will be cost effective. Heres whats in my mind. We make a prototype (by using different materials eg:- wood,pop,etc.) then we place the leds in order we want. Then we go and get the moulds prepared and the last step will be finding a person who will get all these in the respective materials. Also it will help us to recognize team member's baleno on road!!! But there are some drawbacks'; like where and how to get the materials moulded in the required shape on a small scale. Also we need to have a talk with an electrician as Leds require less power than Bulbs so we need some resistors of what value,and many small obstacles in our way,but it is NOT Impossible. So what do you guys think??
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15th June 2006, 13:53	#103
supremeBaleno Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai / Kochi Posts: 5,546 Thanked: 2,697 Times View My Garage	Nice to know that such a lot of guys are putting in so much of effort/time to make the Baleno's rear look better. I was also pretty excited about this project when it was started, since for years I believed that the rear was the main reason (another reason being wrong pricing by MUL) preventing people from buying this car thus resulting in a good car not getting its due in the market. But today after owning the car for 15 months, my perspective has changed. I now actually love (a lot) the rear the way it is and would not change it no matter what. It not only looks great, but also stands apart from the normal crowd of sedans. Last weekend, we drove to Yercaud and whenever we stopped for a smoke, I would go stand behind the car, admiring the rear. Also, when the Baleno was initially launched, the competition consisted of head-turners like the OHC, Astra, Lancer etc. The first two are no longer sold new, while the third has lost its charm and not many seem to be buying it anyway. And the current crop of competitors cannot hold a candle to the Baleno when it comes to looks. Just look at the Fiesta (different looking but not definitely goodlooking, even kind of small-car looks), the Aveo (a crushed from all sides Optra look), the NHC (less said the better) etc. So, as McD would say, I'm Lovin' it. Edit : P.S.: BTW, this is just my opinion and not to discourage any of you guys who are working on the new look. Last edited by supremeBaleno : 15th June 2006 at 13:56.
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15th June 2006, 15:05	#104
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	Imho I really feel the Baleno's clunker looks is due to its square jawed boot. This is the design flaw that needs to be addressed. Tail lights modification alone don't matter a dime. The particular problem with that square boot is that it starts high-up behind the C-pillar. The down-slope of the roofline as it approaches the C-pillar has to be more pronounced for the bootlip to modified effectively in the 1st place. Then, the bootline can be silhoutted like the next-gen Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/88542.jpg Also, Maruti India is not capable of any redesign as they've shown over the past 2 decades. So really, its upto Suzuki's replacement of the Baleno that would tell us whether they've learnt from their previous design fiascos.
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17th June 2006, 21:24	#105
SRK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,201 Thanked: 524 Times	Guys I have made an attempt to just facelift or should I say rearlift the car's look. It looks a lil different from what it is now but the difference is not much. Will be posting as soon as my broadband starts working. Hope you can wait till then..
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