what to buy city or lancer to modify

rranjith_kum · 23rd September 2006, 21:32

hi guys
I am planning to buy a second hand car and modify it to use it for college use...i am a student,
my budget will be strictly only 5L
i have narrowed to City Vtech or 1.5 OHC or a Lancer petrol also what all do you think i can modify ... a little performance with sound just mentioning the free flow... a little look like upholstery...
i am a big fan of City Vtech is it possible to fit it in my purse...

pls help me in this regard ...
Ranjith

furioussphinx · 23rd September 2006, 22:13

Looks bole toh Lancer......and if not much looks but real performance n power. then OHC Vtec!!! The Lancer is underpowered and the OHC vtec is much better in performance terms.......but if u want to go for cosmetic mods like body kits, etc etc bling bling...then lancer!

devarshi84 · 23rd September 2006, 22:47

check out autopsyche's website. you will know the answer. regarding power Lancer has more power parts than honda city. so you can bump as much power as your pockets let you.

iraghava · 24th September 2006, 00:49

If you want to do performace mods - Nothing beats the OHC VTEC. It's fast straight out of the box & with a few simple mods can be made really quick!!

If you want Looks or Wanna Pimp your ride/Show Off - Then nothing beats the Lancer due to sheer number of available parts for this car worldwide.

Choose your car depending on which way you want to go. Best of Luck!!

karthik247 · 24th September 2006, 00:59

Looks+handling = Lancer
Power = City

veyron1 · 24th September 2006, 11:55

Since you're a college student, I would suggest the City. Enough power to go with minimal mods, and better resale value when you plan to upgrade later on.

Go for the Vtec. Financially AND enthusiastically, it's a better choice.

rranjith_kum · 24th September 2006, 13:18

hi,
I recently came across a honda city Vtech which is at TVS used cars people in south might know better its similar to Maruti true value....
its a 2001 model with 65k kms in the odo....
they are quoting 5L fo its ... is it worth it guys...
also is it possible to go for a diesel lancer and put some cash and modify it for some performance....
which is more suitable a petrol lancer or a diesel for a fitting something like a turbo....

elf · 24th September 2006, 18:49

@rranjith_kum:
Firstly, considering your budget constraints, intended purpose & residual value
- go for the Honda City. Hondas are cheaper to run due to their fuel efficiency & their parts are also reasonably priced, compared to Lancers. I know about Lancers coz I own one, & original parts prices get quite expensive.

If you decide to get a good regular Type II 1.5 (not VTEC), you'd get it for about 3 - 3.5 lakhs, depending upon the condition. You can add your base mods (free flow, K&N, wheels & tyres) for within 50K & spend the rest of the lakh on your ICE or a body kit or both.

Secondly, it's VTEC. Not Vtech.

Godfather · 24th September 2006, 19:04

I would prefer to buy a old lancer probably within 2 to 2.5L and the rest of the money plonk in an EVO5 engine..
Silent killer.. power + original lancer looks
Maybe later when finances are back to normal put a body kit.. Nothing too jazzy but the modest SFX type, and good 15" 185/60 yoko rubber.

binz · 24th September 2006, 20:09

Guys guys..hes a college student.All this talk about turbos and engine swaps will only give him a fat petrol bill.
@godfather..i think hes lookin at cosmetic mods+free flow.Stuff like an evo engine swap would be too much of a hassle to maintain.I understand thay are your views but i dont think they belong on this thread...no offence bro.

Edit:Have you considered the baleno??

Edit again:When the man himself talks about a turbo setup,my ost is crap.Mods pls delete

devarshi84 · 24th September 2006, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godfather

I would prefer to buy a old lancer probably within 2 to 2.5L and the rest of the money plonk in an EVO5 engine..
Silent killer.. power + original lancer looks
Maybe later when finances are back to normal put a body kit.. Nothing too jazzy but the modest SFX type, and good 15" 185/60 yoko rubber.

Those were exactly my thoughts.

Better check for costs on the threads but as far as I remember the cost of the engine would beclose to 4-5 lacs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elf

@rranjith_kum:
Hondas are cheaper to run due to their fuel efficiency & their parts are also reasonably priced, compared to Lancers. I know about Lancers coz I own one, & original parts prices get quite expensive.

Which model of lancer do you own and which part was expensive and for how much?

Autocar did a used car review of Honda city and mitsubishi lancer. Lancer is said to be the best used car buy. And while Honda city prices are cheaper, lancer parts tend to have a longer life. Grab the old issues, they are interesting to read too.

binz · 24th September 2006, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by devarshi84

Those were exactly my thoughts.
Better check for costs on the threads but as far as I remember the cost of the engine would beclose to 4-5 lacs.

Nope...cheaper

http://www.jspecautosports.com/catal...spx?cat_id=110
Check on sites...google etc.

The downside is..No Finance.

rranjith_kum · 24th September 2006, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by binz

Nope...cheaper

http://www.jspecautosports.com/catal...spx?cat_id=110
Check on sites...google etc.

The downside is..No Finance.

i checked out that site ....how much can i rely on it ... will the condition of the motor wil be atleast resonably good ... has anyone tried it before .... where can i get it fixed...

oh my god i m getting so many questions ... should my decision on my first car be so difficult...

veyron1 · 25th September 2006, 01:27

@rranjith: Decide what you want first; A car for life, or one that you can upgrade to a new model with, in the next few years.

If you might decide to sell later on, the city is a better bet.

If you know for sure that this is the car that you're gonna keep and tinker with for the next 5-6 years, then shut your eyes and go for a Lancer. Innumerable mod options available- it all just depends upon your purse's girth.

BTW, 5L for a 01' Vtec is a total rip off. Max 4-4.2 L. 2003 Vtec's sell for about 5.3-5.5, but very hard to come by.

Fuelled · 25th September 2006, 02:38

OHC all the way. Its bloody quick even in stock form. Doesn't drink too much. Lovely lovely induction noise... aaah

23rd September 2006, 21:32	#1
rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	hi guys I am planning to buy a second hand car and modify it to use it for college use...i am a student, my budget will be strictly only 5L i have narrowed to City Vtech or 1.5 OHC or a Lancer petrol also what all do you think i can modify ... a little performance with sound just mentioning the free flow... a little look like upholstery... i am a big fan of City Vtech is it possible to fit it in my purse... pls help me in this regard ... Ranjith
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23rd September 2006, 22:13	#2
furioussphinx BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 536 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	Looks bole toh Lancer......and if not much looks but real performance n power. then OHC Vtec!!! The Lancer is underpowered and the OHC vtec is much better in performance terms.......but if u want to go for cosmetic mods like body kits, etc etc bling bling...then lancer!
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23rd September 2006, 22:47	#3
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	check out autopsyche's website. you will know the answer. regarding power Lancer has more power parts than honda city. so you can bump as much power as your pockets let you.
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24th September 2006, 00:49	#4
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	If you want to do performace mods - Nothing beats the OHC VTEC. It's fast straight out of the box & with a few simple mods can be made really quick!! If you want Looks or Wanna Pimp your ride/Show Off - Then nothing beats the Lancer due to sheer number of available parts for this car worldwide. Choose your car depending on which way you want to go. Best of Luck!!
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24th September 2006, 00:59	#5
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Looks+handling = Lancer Power = City
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24th September 2006, 11:55	#6
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Since you're a college student, I would suggest the City. Enough power to go with minimal mods, and better resale value when you plan to upgrade later on. Go for the Vtec. Financially AND enthusiastically, it's a better choice.
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24th September 2006, 13:18	#7
rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	hi, I recently came across a honda city Vtech which is at TVS used cars people in south might know better its similar to Maruti true value.... its a 2001 model with 65k kms in the odo.... they are quoting 5L fo its ... is it worth it guys... also is it possible to go for a diesel lancer and put some cash and modify it for some performance.... which is more suitable a petrol lancer or a diesel for a fitting something like a turbo....
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24th September 2006, 18:49	#8
elf BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	@rranjith_kum: Firstly, considering your budget constraints, intended purpose & residual value - go for the Honda City. Hondas are cheaper to run due to their fuel efficiency & their parts are also reasonably priced, compared to Lancers. I know about Lancers coz I own one, & original parts prices get quite expensive. If you decide to get a good regular Type II 1.5 (not VTEC), you'd get it for about 3 - 3.5 lakhs, depending upon the condition. You can add your base mods (free flow, K&N, wheels & tyres) for within 50K & spend the rest of the lakh on your ICE or a body kit or both. Secondly, it's VTEC. Not Vtech.
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24th September 2006, 19:04	#9
Godfather Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore / Atlanta Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	I would prefer to buy a old lancer probably within 2 to 2.5L and the rest of the money plonk in an EVO5 engine.. Silent killer.. power + original lancer looks Maybe later when finances are back to normal put a body kit.. Nothing too jazzy but the modest SFX type, and good 15" 185/60 yoko rubber.
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24th September 2006, 20:09	#10
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Guys guys..hes a college student.All this talk about turbos and engine swaps will only give him a fat petrol bill. @godfather..i think hes lookin at cosmetic mods+free flow.Stuff like an evo engine swap would be too much of a hassle to maintain.I understand thay are your views but i dont think they belong on this thread...no offence bro. Edit:Have you considered the baleno?? Edit again:When the man himself talks about a turbo setup,my ost is crap.Mods pls delete Last edited by binz : 24th September 2006 at 20:14.
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25th September 2006, 01:27	#14
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	@rranjith: Decide what you want first; A car for life, or one that you can upgrade to a new model with, in the next few years. If you might decide to sell later on, the city is a better bet. If you know for sure that this is the car that you're gonna keep and tinker with for the next 5-6 years, then shut your eyes and go for a Lancer. Innumerable mod options available- it all just depends upon your purse's girth. BTW, 5L for a 01' Vtec is a total rip off. Max 4-4.2 L. 2003 Vtec's sell for about 5.3-5.5, but very hard to come by.
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25th September 2006, 02:38	#15
Fuelled BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: delhi Posts: 252 Thanked: 2 Times	OHC all the way. Its bloody quick even in stock form. Doesn't drink too much. Lovely lovely induction noise... aaah
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