Wanna soup up my zen

Domnic · 7th October 2004, 01:52

Hey,
Heres the breakup : *(approximate costs)
Esteem Bottom Half: 5000
16V Head : between 10k and 20k (Availability is a problem)
Engine Overhaul SVC Charges: 2000
Pistons : 1300
Gasket Set: 1800
Porting & Polishing : 4500
Valve Job : 1000
Assembling Charges& Labour : 4000
Header with complete exhaust system: 5500
Carbs Weber DCOE40 used ones : Between 15000 to 20000
Strut tower Brace : 2500
Suspension Beefing up : 1000 (The oil will be changed to stiffen to an extent)
Rear Dampers Changed: 2500 (Can be done for under 1k also)
N20 : About 35k
Engine Blueprinting can be done which will set you back around 15k more (depends on the extent of work) from basic stuff like oil gallery enlarging, lightening the crank (Knife like), Polished pistons, Polished crank, Polished rods (increases toughness), Weight matching to .01gram. etc lotsa stuff....

For the Start: engine, head, port polish, valve work, carb (decide on esteem carb or if you can webers) esteem carb is around 3500 (Used Reconditioned), Headers, exhaust system. Should be enough.

Cheers
Dom

PS: Where are u located?

Katana · 7th October 2004, 01:55

Dude try Speed-Demon.The conversion done by him are really neat.I have driven one of his modified Esteem which gives a better average also with a good amount of power.Infact a smoother power delivery.

Katana.

libre sito · 7th October 2004, 02:58

hey domnic ur a great help dude nd i stay in mumbai do tell me where u r located nd maybe u could help me out.

hey kantana whos spped-demon and where is he located also ny idea abt what he charges??

Domnic · 7th October 2004, 14:10

Hey Libresito,
Will check on and let you know of people in Mumbai, I am located in bangalore dude. anyway will find someone near you.

Cheers
Dom

salil_kulkarni · 7th October 2004, 15:59

hey libro sito,
speed demon tuning is run by a guy called ashneen. his place is at parel in mumbai. i have his card, so if u want his contact number - drop me a pm, ill give u his address too.

bobby · 7th October 2004, 19:12

Does anybody know a good place for a complete job near Andheri ?

speedsatya · 8th October 2004, 02:06

hey dom,
that was awesome,if ur planning to make a 60bhp car into 200 bhp ,then wat wud happen if anyone gives u a palio 1.6.

wat difference wud porting make to the car .and waht time wud it take .
FE,pik up and other parameters.

satya

Godspeed · 8th October 2004, 15:41

hi all...
i agree with you dominic that 100 bhp isnt much, but yeah i was thinking more about reliability & everyday use,

dipen i have no idea how much this would cost me... but i have plans in the future of prepping up my zen...& the swift gt engine is definetly the best way to go,about 100-150bhp is nice for the western express highway which is undergoing a complete makeover!!!

btw dont u think weber carbs will kill the fuel consumption like crazy!?!?sigh..only if petrol cost what it cost in dubaI!!

Godspeed · 8th October 2004, 15:43

yeah Ashdeen is very vewry good with his work
if anyone remembers the blue slammed lancer at the drag race
shaved handles koni's etc
all the installation was done by him
he's also made a few e-zens

Domnic · 8th October 2004, 20:18

Hi,
Yea webers do kinda drink a bit

, about 6 or so will be the approx FE at 12:1.
The palio too can be modded quite a bit. But is more difficult to work with than the G13B's. Parts are costlier, most stuff like flywheel, pulleys etc have to be fabricated It isnt impossible but costs a tad more than to do up a zen.
Porting depends on the seriousness of the job, STG1 STG2 etc etc. Well as we call it here a 'Full Blown Head', which has lots and lots of porting done, intake is enlarged, Valve guide modification, Air tunnel is modified, intake on a rough finish, Valves are enlarged and have a 3-angled valve job. Combustion chamber is mirror finished, even the valve heads are polished, exhaust tract modified and has a total smooth and mirror finish. This kinda port job should give you about 25hp on a 1.6 palio. Takes about 2 days for the complete work and probably add another day for assembling and dis-assembling. FE will improove actually, have seen a 15% gain(normal driving). But on WOT will drop to about 20% lesser.

Cheers
Dom

libre sito · 8th October 2004, 22:48

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superunknown · 10th June 2005, 14:50

hey ..sorry to steal ur post but just wanted to ask you a lil summin.....i have a zen with an esteem carb engine......this was my first step in modifying....where dya think i can go from from here keeping the existing engine?......thanx

superunknown · 10th June 2005, 14:54

BTW great site

.....just joined

heavy_foot · 10th June 2005, 15:10

hee superunknown welcome to team-bhp....tell us somthing more about your car dude....pics would help...and also how much did the complete engine swap cost you..did u change the suspension and brakes?? wats the top speed its capable of?
cheers.

superunknown · 10th June 2005, 17:03

....hey lead_foot.....nope dun have pics yet.....havnt gotten close to testing top speed yet...will post wen i have....no change in brakes and suspension....

7th October 2004, 01:52	#16
Domnic Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 428 Thanked: 6 Times	Hey, Heres the breakup : *(approximate costs) Esteem Bottom Half: 5000 16V Head : between 10k and 20k (Availability is a problem) Engine Overhaul SVC Charges: 2000 Pistons : 1300 Gasket Set: 1800 Porting & Polishing : 4500 Valve Job : 1000 Assembling Charges& Labour : 4000 Header with complete exhaust system: 5500 Carbs Weber DCOE40 used ones : Between 15000 to 20000 Strut tower Brace : 2500 Suspension Beefing up : 1000 (The oil will be changed to stiffen to an extent) Rear Dampers Changed: 2500 (Can be done for under 1k also) N20 : About 35k Engine Blueprinting can be done which will set you back around 15k more (depends on the extent of work) from basic stuff like oil gallery enlarging, lightening the crank (Knife like), Polished pistons, Polished crank, Polished rods (increases toughness), Weight matching to .01gram. etc lotsa stuff.... For the Start: engine, head, port polish, valve work, carb (decide on esteem carb or if you can webers) esteem carb is around 3500 (Used Reconditioned), Headers, exhaust system. Should be enough. Cheers Dom PS: Where are u located?
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7th October 2004, 01:55	#17
Katana Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Dude try Speed-Demon.The conversion done by him are really neat.I have driven one of his modified Esteem which gives a better average also with a good amount of power.Infact a smoother power delivery. Katana.
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7th October 2004, 02:58	#18
libre sito BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai/Brooklyn/New Jersey Posts: 149 Thanked: 5 Times	hey domnic ur a great help dude nd i stay in mumbai do tell me where u r located nd maybe u could help me out. hey kantana whos spped-demon and where is he located also ny idea abt what he charges??
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7th October 2004, 14:10	#19
Domnic Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 428 Thanked: 6 Times	Hey Libresito, Will check on and let you know of people in Mumbai, I am located in bangalore dude. anyway will find someone near you. Cheers Dom
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7th October 2004, 15:59	#20
salil_kulkarni BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Turin, Italy Posts: 173 Thanked: 4 Times	hey libro sito, speed demon tuning is run by a guy called ashneen. his place is at parel in mumbai. i have his card, so if u want his contact number - drop me a pm, ill give u his address too.
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7th October 2004, 19:12	#21
bobby Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 22 Thanked: 0 Times	Does anybody know a good place for a complete job near Andheri ?
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8th October 2004, 02:06	#22
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	hey dom, that was awesome,if ur planning to make a 60bhp car into 200 bhp ,then wat wud happen if anyone gives u a palio 1.6. wat difference wud porting make to the car .and waht time wud it take . FE,pik up and other parameters. satya
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8th October 2004, 15:41	#23
Godspeed BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: bombay Posts: 130 Thanked: 0 Times	hi all... i agree with you dominic that 100 bhp isnt much, but yeah i was thinking more about reliability & everyday use, dipen i have no idea how much this would cost me... but i have plans in the future of prepping up my zen...& the swift gt engine is definetly the best way to go,about 100-150bhp is nice for the western express highway which is undergoing a complete makeover!!! btw dont u think weber carbs will kill the fuel consumption like crazy!?!?sigh..only if petrol cost what it cost in dubaI!!
	() Thanks

8th October 2004, 15:43	#24
Godspeed BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: bombay Posts: 130 Thanked: 0 Times	yeah Ashdeen is very vewry good with his work if anyone remembers the blue slammed lancer at the drag race shaved handles koni's etc all the installation was done by him he's also made a few e-zens
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8th October 2004, 20:18	#25
Domnic Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 428 Thanked: 6 Times	Hi, Yea webers do kinda drink a bit , about 6 or so will be the approx FE at 12:1. The palio too can be modded quite a bit. But is more difficult to work with than the G13B's. Parts are costlier, most stuff like flywheel, pulleys etc have to be fabricated It isnt impossible but costs a tad more than to do up a zen. Porting depends on the seriousness of the job, STG1 STG2 etc etc. Well as we call it here a 'Full Blown Head', which has lots and lots of porting done, intake is enlarged, Valve guide modification, Air tunnel is modified, intake on a rough finish, Valves are enlarged and have a 3-angled valve job. Combustion chamber is mirror finished, even the valve heads are polished, exhaust tract modified and has a total smooth and mirror finish. This kinda port job should give you about 25hp on a 1.6 palio. Takes about 2 days for the complete work and probably add another day for assembling and dis-assembling. FE will improove actually, have seen a 15% gain(normal driving). But on WOT will drop to about 20% lesser. Cheers Dom
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8th October 2004, 22:48	#26
libre sito BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai/Brooklyn/New Jersey Posts: 149 Thanked: 5 Times	Post deleted due to presence of excessive slang. Please respect other board viewers and key your thoughts in a readable manner
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10th June 2005, 14:50	#27
superunknown Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 23 Thanked: 0 Times	hey ..sorry to steal ur post but just wanted to ask you a lil summin.....i have a zen with an esteem carb engine......this was my first step in modifying....where dya think i can go from from here keeping the existing engine?......thanx
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10th June 2005, 14:54	#28
superunknown Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 23 Thanked: 0 Times	BTW great site .....just joined
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10th June 2005, 15:10	#29
heavy_foot Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 1,048 Thanked: 163 Times	hee superunknown welcome to team-bhp....tell us somthing more about your car dude....pics would help...and also how much did the complete engine swap cost you..did u change the suspension and brakes?? wats the top speed its capable of? cheers.
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10th June 2005, 17:03	#30
superunknown Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 23 Thanked: 0 Times	....hey lead_foot.....nope dun have pics yet.....havnt gotten close to testing top speed yet...will post wen i have....no change in brakes and suspension....
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