[fasbond1412]

can u give more info on the nos kit.. whts the price of the kit n installation and how much for refills

[X-Machine]

The Nos kit will be in the range of 35k-40k and refill will cost around 1500rs.
If u dunt wanna spend so much on the kit,Indian Nos kit is a better option.It`ll cost u bout 50% less than the original.
Take ya pick.

X

[fasbond1412]

u mean around 20 k for indian where do u get the indian how does the nos work exactly.. which is betta indian or imported any number or site or adress of nos?? yesterday saw a white accent GLS wid super alloys sports exhaust huge exhaust n NOS ritten on it on the nehind below GLS..

[X-Machine]

Indian NOS is not recommended.Sum ricers i know who use it only for drag purpose.
Contact me wenever u wanna get 1 fitted.

X

[fasbond1412]

Hey X i guess ur lancer has NOS.. wat exactly does the NOS do i mean how does it function how much is it effective how much power increment does it lead to?? if u have NOS in ur lancer can u tell me wat are the pros n cons.??

[X-Machine]

Originally Posted by fasbond1412

Hey X i guess ur lancer has NOS.. wat exactly does the NOS do i mean how does it function how much is it effective how much power increment does it lead to?? if u have NOS in ur lancer can u tell me wat are the pros n cons.??

Hey FB,
Firsty i do no have NOS as yet on my Lancer.Will get it fixed as soon as i return to India.

Secondly,NOS funtions only wen its button is pressed.As soon as its released the power diffuses.It is recommended to use NOS only 1ce ur car crosses the 2500/3000 rpm limit.It can also be activated/deactivated anytime u want.

Thirdly,contrary to the popular belief that NOS can raise the power of the car,it does`nt.One can just feel the power wen the button is pressed.Otherwise its just a normal car.

Though my Lancer does not have NOS,but i`ve driven quite a few cars on NOS.Infact my Skyline has NOS too.The pros are just the power.Nuthin else really.Its just over-hyped.NOS is nuthin too extraordinary.The cons are that,NOS is very very addictive.1ce ur used to it,u wud feel like using it on the city streets too.Its quite dangerous.I just use NOS during the drags,as it can harn the engine to an extend.

I hope i`ve answered ur Qs.

X

[z klasse]

If NOS doesnt increase a sudden boost in power then what does it do according to you X Machine? This is news to me. I thought NOS when atomitized with fuel breaks the nitrogen and oxygen and thereby providing the engine more oxygen to burn hence giving a increase in power. True the after effects of increased use of nitrous does harm the engine as you are putting out more than the engine is designed to do but if you have a good ignition system to burn up the fuel and can handle the excess pressure created with nos it does its job. NOS comes right at the end after you have a filter, exhaust, ignition, ported polished head is helpful. Dry nitrous can be dangerous but wet nitrous is always safer and foolproof. This is what I have read and understood. Maybe you have a different opinion. I have driven cars with nitrous and have read and seen articles on professional dragsters who depend on NOS so that they get their cars upto the 8 second mark and have seen some going down all the way to 6.5sec. See discovery channel they do show it sometimes. Dont remember the show but I have seen it. Anyways.. Thats what I believe and felt of nitrous.

z klasse

[X-Machine]

Hey zklasse,
Ur right bout the NOS thing.Wot i meant to say is just by fitting a NOS kit in the car does`nt increase power,unless it is activated and put into use.
So wot ur talkin bout is that what happens once the NOS switch is pressed.
We are talkin bout the same thing but in different regards.

X

[Domnic]

Hi,
N2O increases power...

But for those few moments only. N2O after a certian temperature breaks up into Nitrogen and Oxygen, So more oxygen more power. Nitrogen helps keep things cool. The problem is that you have to get a correct amount of fuel enrichenment to produce the power for the amount of nitrous injected. Too lean and you will reach detonation which is bad for the engine.

N2O does produce some serious power depending on the engine types. Our indian engines can sustain a 35 - 40hp (City, Lancer) when stock to a safe amount. There are kits built by NOS that can boost upto 1000hp meant for Top Fuel cars. In the upcoming drag our indian engines will be going between 75 - 100 hp N2O.


Cheers
Dom

[z klasse]

Originally Posted by Domnic

Hi,
N2O increases power...

But for those few moments only. N2O after a certian temperature breaks up into Nitrogen and Oxygen, So more oxygen more power. Nitrogen helps keep things cool. The problem is that you have to get a correct amount of fuel enrichenment to produce the power for the amount of nitrous injected. Too lean and you will reach detonation which is bad for the engine.

N2O does produce some serious power depending on the engine types. Our indian engines can sustain a 35 - 40hp (City, Lancer) when stock to a safe amount. There are kits built by NOS that can boost upto 1000hp meant for Top Fuel cars. In the upcoming drag our indian engines will be going between 75 - 100 hp N2O.


Cheers
Dom

You right dom.. one thing about the lancer is that the 1.5 lancer engine 4g15 is a very sensitive engine in regards to fuel and to air. If you put in more air it does feel a tad bit lighter but more fuel and the car literally chokes to death.. the engine is good but whatever you do to a 1.5 lancer it will never able to outrun a 1.5 honda. handling of the mitsubishi lancer is unbeatable as a stock car but over all a honda city 1.5 reacts better to nos and to other mods than a lancer. In short you will get more out of a honda city 1.5 than a lancer 1.5. This is through personal experience on my friends car. Don't know if some one has managed to get more out of the 4G15 engine.

[kiran_100bhp]

After how many kilometers does one has to refill

[SPEED_DEMON82]

^^^ NOS when activated and used completely (all tanks) last for not more than a few seconds. It is used for a burst of speed of a small duration. So once you have drained all teh gas from your tanks (within) those few seconds, you will have to refill. Its not a matter of kilometers but in meters! Go through the entire thread for more details please.

Cheers!

[ST7677]

hmmm... interesting! May be time to revive the thread...

So essentially a NOS and Turbo kit do the same thing - get more air to the engine.
How is NOS compared against Turbo...?
NOS costs 40k and Turbo would cost 2 lacs
NOS would require regular refilling of cylinders, Turbo wont
NOS is active only when you want, Turbo is always active in the range it is setup for
What else??? in terms of experience, practicality, reliability, driveability, safety, etc?

[n_aditya]

As far as i know the NOS particles (nitrous oxide) act as a catalyst to burn fuel at a faster rate. Can someone clarify better?

[DocG]

Okey Chemistry lesson:
NOS - N2O is used to boost cars because: It has more O2 per unit weight than air. 1 gram of air has 0.21 grams of O2. 1 gram of N20 has 0.364 grams of O2.
The equation is 2N20 = 2N2 + O2...

What happens to the Nitrogen? Well Nitrogen (N2) is an inert gas, therefore doesn't react in the combustion. It does however help with the amount of force exerted by combustion, as there is more gas in the cylinder, which causes a quicker transmission of force, and even higher expansion of gasses. Takes a shorter time to reach a higher RPM...

What does this do? How does it increase HP?
The efficiency of a car engine is only around 30% [Ballpark figure]. Most engines cannot allow more fuel to combust as there is a problem getting enough O2 for it to burn [running rich]. Therefore with NOS you can run the car richer, as with the shots you have enough air in your cylinders to consume all the fuel. This is where the power comes from...

No NOS and Turbos aren't the same:
NOS - You gain horsepower at the push of a button, but only during that time, it's not permanent!
Turbos - You have permanent boost as your exhaust gasses are spinning a fan which causes a turbine to spin and force air into your cylinders [Cooler air if you have an intercooler]. This is permanent, and you have the boost as long as you're in the rpm range where your turbo spools.
Superchargers/Blowers - Use the power of the crankshaft via a pulley to spin a turbine forcing air into the cylinders, again usually coupled with an intercooler.

Applications -
NOS - Drag racing PLEASE DON'T USE IT ON THE STREET!
Turbo / Super chargers - To make a car go faster, safe for road cars

Mistakes people make
NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems It's the name of a company, and they specialise in Nitrous kits. It's a brand name, like Typhoon is the name for the K&N ram intake...

Hope that helps, please gurus chime in if I was wrong about any information in this post...
cheers:

DocG