Palio mods/post all queries and pics here

moralfibre · 14th April 2007, 03:06

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Originally Posted by rishibravo

Are iridium tipped spark plugs that overrated???

Yes they are overrated when you consider their application on stock cars. They wouldn't make any power difference. The stock plugs should suffice your needs. You will not notice any power gains practically but psychologically you might feel some power gains since you spend money on it

rishibravo · 14th April 2007, 03:13

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Yes they are overrated when you consider their application on stock cars. They wouldn't make any power difference. The stock plugs should suffice your needs. You will not notice any power gains practically but psychologically you might feel some power gains since you spend money on it

oooops... You saved some of my hard earned money here

payam · 14th April 2007, 04:04

i am not that expert,but as i know iridium are efficent on powerful car,i mean cars with high level of bhp.
am i right?

payam · 14th April 2007, 05:05

some palio design:

palio with 17r wheels:

more:

payam · 14th April 2007, 05:13

this is the source:
www.cardomain.com

swathyd · 14th April 2007, 12:54

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Originally Posted by payam

i am not that expert,but as i know iridium are efficent on powerful car,i mean cars with high level of bhp.
am i right?

I had spoken with a guy who carryout mods. He told me not to go for iridium in 1.6 as only platinum is needed for 1.6.

rishibravo · 14th April 2007, 12:58

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Originally Posted by swathyd

I had spoken with a guy who carryout mods. He told me not to go for iridium in 1.6 as only platinum is needed for 1.6.

just curious....What metal tip is used in OEM spark plugs???

payam · 14th April 2007, 17:26

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Originally Posted by rishibravo

just curious....What metal tip is used in OEM spark plugs???

dude
it varies from car to car,some use iridium while some does platinium or cooper.
for more see this:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ed-2-know.html

swathyd · 14th April 2007, 23:01

So which one should a 1.6 use (iridium or platinum).

payam · 15th April 2007, 00:01

1.6 doesnt use iridium,i think it does platinium

TURBOSAM · 17th April 2007, 12:58

the 1580 cc engine produces 272+bhp in grande punto,
the cam timing of the 1596cc<palio> is restricting the power out put. the cam eventd @0 deg will produce least amount of performance... still the engine produces heaps of performance... check ther valveoverlaps of other performance engines n ull understand thee difference,,,,

moralfibre · 17th April 2007, 18:28

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Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

the 1580 cc engine produces 272+bhp in grande punto,
the cam timing of the 1596cc<palio> is restricting the power out put. the cam eventd @0 deg will produce least amount of performance... still the engine produces heaps of performance... check ther valveoverlaps of other performance engines n ull understand thee difference,,,,

What should be the cam timing for performance then?

v1p3r · 18th April 2007, 03:22

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Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

the 1580 cc engine produces 272+bhp in grande punto,
the cam timing of the 1596cc<palio> is restricting the power out put. the cam eventd @0 deg will produce least amount of performance... still the engine produces heaps of performance... check ther valveoverlaps of other performance engines n ull understand thee difference,,,,

AFAIK, the ONLY Fiat engine with 1580 cc of displacement was the one in the Tipo and Tempra in the '80s, which put out 83 bhp. The Grande Punto puts out a MAXIMUM of 130 bhp from a 1.9 JTD. Maybe you are referring to the rally-spec Super 2000 Punto Abarth, which puts out 280 bhp from a 2000cc mill, which is actually borrowed from the Alfa 156 WTCC car.

The highest specific output for any 1.6 litre engine is 200 bhp, on the old Nissan Pulsar/Sunny GTi-R.

Please stick to facts and figures, and make sure they are true. Otherwise I will be forced to bring in my 6 litre Hemi-powered Alto which gives me 38 kmpl.

roms · 18th April 2007, 04:51

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

AFAIK, the ONLY Fiat engine with 1580 cc of displacement was the one in the Tipo and Tempra in the '80s, which put out 83 bhp.

Nope,the earlier Sienas/Weekenders based on the Palio Mark I sold in India had the 1580 CC 98 bhp engines from the 'Torque' family.These had the 16 bit ECUs.Its only in 2002 that we had the 1596 CC engines with 32 bit ECUs plonked in Palios.

But 272+ bhp coming from a 1.6 in a Grande Punto.Now where did that come from ? TURBOSAM, enlighten us Sir.For starters, the Grande Punto does'nt even have a 1.6 engine option in UK or anywhere else.Or is this the 'Super 1600' rally spec engine or somthing of that sort?

TURBOSAM · 18th April 2007, 17:47

yes what i say is still true
1580 cc<siena engine> gave 72+bhp in grande punto special edition ,
after working for fiat as t.e.c for more than 6 yrs i think 3 times before i say fiat as people take my word as a statement and i need to respect it .. very soon ill post all the infi @ the engine /cae. it featured in autocar too i guess! it was in british library ..

14th April 2007, 04:04	#63
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 924 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	i am not that expert,but as i know iridium are efficent on powerful car,i mean cars with high level of bhp. am i right?
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14th April 2007, 05:05	#64
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 924 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	some palio design: palio with 17r wheels: more:
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14th April 2007, 05:13	#65
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 924 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	this is the source: www.cardomain.com Last edited by payam : 14th April 2007 at 05:19.
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14th April 2007, 23:01	#69
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	So which one should a 1.6 use (iridium or platinum).
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15th April 2007, 00:01	#70
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 924 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	1.6 doesnt use iridium,i think it does platinium Last edited by payam : 15th April 2007 at 00:02.
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17th April 2007, 12:58	#71
TURBOSAM BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pune Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	1.6 the 1580 cc engine produces 272+bhp in grande punto, the cam timing of the 1596cc<palio> is restricting the power out put. the cam eventd @0 deg will produce least amount of performance... still the engine produces heaps of performance... check ther valveoverlaps of other performance engines n ull understand thee difference,,,,
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18th April 2007, 17:47	#75
TURBOSAM BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pune Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	yes what i say is still true 1580 cc<siena engine> gave 72+bhp in grande punto special edition , after working for fiat as t.e.c for more than 6 yrs i think 3 times before i say fiat as people take my word as a statement and i need to respect it .. very soon ill post all the infi @ the engine /cae. it featured in autocar too i guess! it was in british library ..
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