Palio mods/post all queries and pics here

rishibravo · 12th April 2007, 08:12

I am assuming that you got rid of the cat con. If yes then is there any issue with passing the Pollution test?

madan80 · 12th April 2007, 09:46

@payam have you done all these mods on a palio 1.2 or a 1.6? whats the assumed increase in BHp cause of these mods?

moralfibre · 12th April 2007, 09:53

Palio 1.6 Free Flow Exhaust . There are power gains in this setup but I do not recommend it. Reliability issue are prevalent for any mod that you do on the 1.6.

Madan, Payam has a 1.2.

madan80 · 12th April 2007, 10:07

oh. ok!! I got a 1.2, and am contemplating a FFE. Just thought i would check. Where did u get your setup done?

moralfibre · 12th April 2007, 10:10

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Originally Posted by madan80

oh. ok!! I got a 1.2, and am contemplating a FFE. Just thought i would check. Where did u get your setup done?

My exhaust is stock. The car in pictures belongs to determinus and we got it done by Automech. A horrific experience if you ask me. The cost of the complete FFE came to Rs. 9500/-.

payam · 12th April 2007, 12:08

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Originally Posted by rishibravo

I am assuming that you got rid of the cat con. If yes then is there any issue with passing the Pollution test?

dude
cat con is removed and no issue with pollution,the problem is header's pipe are so tiny and narrow while they must be bit bigger.
also the pipe must be straight but there are too much of bending fo muffler pipe.

rishibravo · 12th April 2007, 12:10

payam I see that you have got an aftermarket spoiler. i assumed its not OEm because you dont have the OEM fog lamps (which come in the 1.6 and 1.2 sports). where did you get the spoiler and for how much.

Secondly Guys is it recommended to get a FFE for a 1.2 . I dont want too many hastles . I know its bad for the environment but just curiousity sake, would getting rid of the cat con improve performance?

moralfibre · 12th April 2007, 12:16

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Originally Posted by rishibravo

would getting rid of the cat con improve performance?

I am going to try this for my 1.6 but still not confident of doing so. I will only be replacing headers and getting rid of the Cat using a straight pipe.

rishibravo · 12th April 2007, 12:21

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

I am going to try this for my 1.6 but still not confident of doing so. I will only be replacing headers and getting rid of the Cat using a straight pipe.

First of all congrats for the senior Bhpian status moralfibre. I also wanted to ask another thing. I have heard a lot of guys saying that 1.6 under hood area is pretty ramped up to do mods. what do you guys say about the 1.2 . Is it a good specimen for mods.

moralfibre · 12th April 2007, 12:47

Yes indeed, the 1.6 engine bay is pretty cramped for any modifications. Ask the guys who try to fit custom headers in the 1.6. The headers are located on the firewall side of the engine bay unlike other cars where the headers are on the front. This makes it a pretty tedious task for the guys and they end up messing up a lot of things in return.

Comparatively, I feel the 1.2 is more mod friendly since the engine bay has lots of space to accomodate stuff in and is more mechanic friendly to work with. What do you intend to do in your car Rishi?

rishibravo · 12th April 2007, 13:11

I am waiting for the warranty to get over in july and then I want to go for a FFE. I have done the basic mods like High performance filter and Changed the engine oil to Mobil1 supersyn 5w50. I want to go for the NGK iridiums and want to get them from US. But I still dont know the part number for ordering the NGKs.
On the exteriors the car is pretty basic . Added alloys,Fog lamps (from FIAT) , looking to add a spoiler (the 1.2 sports one) but the OEM one is expensive and one has to change the rear windsreen as well (as per the FIAT guys).

payam · 12th April 2007, 22:39

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Originally Posted by madan80

@payam have you done all these mods on a palio 1.2 or a 1.6? whats the assumed increase in BHp cause of these mods?

my car is 1.2,and about power increased:
k&n just working nice and i assume the increase of 7%-8% on power.
FFE as i said no,it is only giving sound.if there is increased in power it is neglible.

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Originally Posted by rishibravo

payam I see that you have got an aftermarket spoiler. i assumed its not OEm because you dont have the OEM fog lamps (which come in the 1.6 and 1.2 sports). where did you get the spoiler and for how much.

Secondly Guys is it recommended to get a FFE for a 1.2 . I dont want too many hastles . I know its bad for the environment but just curiousity sake, would getting rid of the cat con improve performance?

rishi
i got my spoiler from fiat showroom in pune for 2500,and yes it is not OEM.
about FFE:
as i know you will get more power and performance by removing cacone,but yes it makes pollution
you can find more about your query here:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...ranties-3.html
or here
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...-exhausts.html

moralfibre · 13th April 2007, 09:37

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Originally Posted by rishibravo

I am waiting for the warranty to get over in july and then I want to go for a FFE. I have done the basic mods like High performance filter and Changed the engine oil to Mobil1 supersyn 5w50. I want to go for the NGK iridiums and want to get them from US. But I still dont know the part number for ordering the NGKs.

While the Free flow filter is ok. I dont think Iridium plugs would make much of a difference in performance. I would recommend you to stick to stock plugs.

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Added alloys,

Hope they are 98 PCD? But I doubt whether you get 98 PCD in aftermarket.

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Fog lamps (from FIAT) ,

How much did you buy it for?

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looking to add a spoiler (the 1.2 sports one) but the OEM one is expensive and one has to change the rear windsreen as well (as per the FIAT guys).

I know of a guy who added an aftermarket spoiler on his Palio and it was not bolted on the rear windscreen. The spoiler was mounted on two corners and it flew on the expressway at 120kmph. Try to be careful when you get this one fitted.

payam · 13th April 2007, 12:00

rishi
how about giving diffenernt look to your palio,i mean get some costum spoiler which looks different.
i am looking for such a thing,guys if you have any pics or suggest plz help

rapideffect · 13th April 2007, 12:39

Payam, Why not a GT wing? . This is available with N1 Engg. visit their site for details.

12th April 2007, 08:12	#16
rishibravo BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 579 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	I am assuming that you got rid of the cat con. If yes then is there any issue with passing the Pollution test?
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12th April 2007, 09:46	#17
madan80 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,360 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	@payam have you done all these mods on a palio 1.2 or a 1.6? whats the assumed increase in BHp cause of these mods?
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12th April 2007, 09:53	#18
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,443 Thanked: 13,956 Times	Palio 1.6 Free Flow Exhaust . There are power gains in this setup but I do not recommend it. Reliability issue are prevalent for any mod that you do on the 1.6. Madan, Payam has a 1.2.
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12th April 2007, 10:07	#19
madan80 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,360 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	oh. ok!! I got a 1.2, and am contemplating a FFE. Just thought i would check. Where did u get your setup done?
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12th April 2007, 12:10	#22
rishibravo BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 579 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	payam I see that you have got an aftermarket spoiler. i assumed its not OEm because you dont have the OEM fog lamps (which come in the 1.6 and 1.2 sports). where did you get the spoiler and for how much. Secondly Guys is it recommended to get a FFE for a 1.2 . I dont want too many hastles . I know its bad for the environment but just curiousity sake, would getting rid of the cat con improve performance?
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12th April 2007, 12:47	#25
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,443 Thanked: 13,956 Times	Yes indeed, the 1.6 engine bay is pretty cramped for any modifications. Ask the guys who try to fit custom headers in the 1.6. The headers are located on the firewall side of the engine bay unlike other cars where the headers are on the front. This makes it a pretty tedious task for the guys and they end up messing up a lot of things in return. Comparatively, I feel the 1.2 is more mod friendly since the engine bay has lots of space to accomodate stuff in and is more mechanic friendly to work with. What do you intend to do in your car Rishi?
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12th April 2007, 13:11	#26
rishibravo BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 579 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	I am waiting for the warranty to get over in july and then I want to go for a FFE. I have done the basic mods like High performance filter and Changed the engine oil to Mobil1 supersyn 5w50. I want to go for the NGK iridiums and want to get them from US. But I still dont know the part number for ordering the NGKs. On the exteriors the car is pretty basic . Added alloys,Fog lamps (from FIAT) , looking to add a spoiler (the 1.2 sports one) but the OEM one is expensive and one has to change the rear windsreen as well (as per the FIAT guys).
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13th April 2007, 12:00	#29
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 924 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	rishi how about giving diffenernt look to your palio,i mean get some costum spoiler which looks different. i am looking for such a thing,guys if you have any pics or suggest plz help
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13th April 2007, 12:39	#30
rapideffect BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 147 Thanked: 4 Times	Payam, Why not a GT wing? . This is available with N1 Engg. visit their site for details. Last edited by rapideffect : 13th April 2007 at 12:42.
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