scorpio engine on contessa

manikjeet · 13th May 2007, 02:57

Hey man
the engine you are talking about a cdre or a normal old scorpio or the rev 116 engine but which ever engine it is its going to be one fast car of the line

jyobeb · 13th May 2007, 08:13

The engine is too tall. Even if you modify the bonnet, there is nothing you will be able to do to the sub frame assembly and that is where you will hit a dead end.

Aditya · 13th May 2007, 08:32

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Originally Posted by elf

I don't think lateral space in the Conti's engine bay is an issue here. What I'm trying to figure is, will the height of the Scorpio engine be an impediment to successful bonnet shutting.

I agree with you. Many years ago someone tried to squeeze in an Eicher Mitsubishi Canter engine into a Conti and had major problems with the engine height.
Even if you do manage to fit the engine, there are some things that will need to considered. As mentioned in some earlier posts, the gearbox and differential will have to be changed. The chassis will need to be strengthened, the suspension / springs will have to be stiffened. The brakes, wheels, tyres, all will have to be changed. This looks like quite an expensive and tedious project to me.

Mpower · 13th May 2007, 08:50

Sounds good. If you have height problems, put a nice big power bulge on the hood like the new M3.

Sankar · 13th May 2007, 10:52

I consulted with a mech long time back for an engine swap in my conti the engine we were planning to put in was a Chrysler slant six. But then he told me that a scorpio engine or a safari engine is also a possible fit. He was telling about using the stock gearbox as well telling me it could handle a lot more power. IF you can get a Scorpio gb that would be excellent.

swathyd · 13th May 2007, 11:25

Here they are using a stock isuzu gearbox. I will check and tell which engine they have used whether cdre or a normal old scorpio.

Team Fiat · 14th May 2007, 13:54

Man If this swap goes thru that would be one mind blowing streetrod

theMAG · 14th May 2007, 15:06

When are the pics out?

swathyd · 14th May 2007, 22:18

I will post it when the transplantation is over.

1100D · 14th May 2007, 22:26

If this goes thru, it would have the potential for a tremendous drift car.

However, doubt whether the engine will be able to fit in terms of height and not cause a ungainly bulge on the hood, however the bulge could be very macho.

Victor carried V8's but then al V engines have each bank being slanted thus reducing vertical height. The actual concept of V comes from packaging limitations that an in-line engine of the same number of cylinders is likely to have.

BUSA · 14th May 2007, 23:24

You will have to change brakes, gearbox & clutch(wont be able to handle the torque the scorpio engine generats) Wont be easy but very much possible and height wont be much of a problem IMHO, because there are other issues before that.

Also you will need quite wide rubber to put the torque down. Yes after its done it will sure have lots of muscle.

v1p3r · 15th May 2007, 16:49

Won't drift too well because diesels have a very narrow powerband and don't respond well to downshifts either.

Godfather · 16th May 2007, 00:32

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Originally Posted by swathyd

Here they are using a stock isuzu gearbox. I will check and tell which engine they have used whether cdre or a normal old scorpio.

See if you can fit a 118NE gearbox...

Godfather

manikjeet · 16th May 2007, 01:29

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Originally Posted by Godfather

See if you can fit a 118NE gearbox...

Godfather

I cann't help but asking

why not use the scorpio gear box

Godfather · 16th May 2007, 01:48

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Originally Posted by manikjeet

I cann't help but asking

why not use the scorpio gear box

You can obviously use the scorpio's Gearbox.. This was just a suggestion.. Anyway The 118NE gearbox was a marvel...

Godfather

13th May 2007, 02:57	#16
manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,618 Thanked: 295 Times View My Garage	Hey man the engine you are talking about a cdre or a normal old scorpio or the rev 116 engine but which ever engine it is its going to be one fast car of the line
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13th May 2007, 08:13	#17
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 703 Times	The engine is too tall. Even if you modify the bonnet, there is nothing you will be able to do to the sub frame assembly and that is where you will hit a dead end.
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13th May 2007, 08:50	#19
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	Sounds good. If you have height problems, put a nice big power bulge on the hood like the new M3.
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13th May 2007, 10:52	#20
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,053 Times	I consulted with a mech long time back for an engine swap in my conti the engine we were planning to put in was a Chrysler slant six. But then he told me that a scorpio engine or a safari engine is also a possible fit. He was telling about using the stock gearbox as well telling me it could handle a lot more power. IF you can get a Scorpio gb that would be excellent.
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13th May 2007, 11:25	#21
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	Here they are using a stock isuzu gearbox. I will check and tell which engine they have used whether cdre or a normal old scorpio.
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14th May 2007, 13:54	#22
Team Fiat BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pune NIBM Posts: 281 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	Man If this swap goes thru that would be one mind blowing streetrod
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14th May 2007, 15:06	#23
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	When are the pics out?
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14th May 2007, 22:18	#24
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	I will post it when the transplantation is over.
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14th May 2007, 22:26	#25
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,079 Times View My Garage	If this goes thru, it would have the potential for a tremendous drift car. However, doubt whether the engine will be able to fit in terms of height and not cause a ungainly bulge on the hood, however the bulge could be very macho. Victor carried V8's but then al V engines have each bank being slanted thus reducing vertical height. The actual concept of V comes from packaging limitations that an in-line engine of the same number of cylinders is likely to have.
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14th May 2007, 23:24	#26
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	You will have to change brakes, gearbox & clutch(wont be able to handle the torque the scorpio engine generats) Wont be easy but very much possible and height wont be much of a problem IMHO, because there are other issues before that. Also you will need quite wide rubber to put the torque down. Yes after its done it will sure have lots of muscle.
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15th May 2007, 16:49	#27
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Won't drift too well because diesels have a very narrow powerband and don't respond well to downshifts either.
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