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Introduction

I was having second thoughts about getting a dashcam because of vertical and small windshield in Thar. But posts like this and one personal incident, just made me get one.

This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxXzGGOGxA8

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhwk...ature=youtu.be

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Why Viofo?

I have been using Viofo since Aliexpress days ~ 2017. After using A119 and A119S since the past 5 years, with no problems whatsoever, naturally my first choice was Viofo. The considerations I had for dashcam were – Reliable, Capacitator based, atleast 2k and Dual Dashcam. Wanted something which was just fit & forget. Not something I’d have to maintain with TLC. I did not want anything which would just give up because of heat, cold or just freeze the videos in between without even a notification. So, in all these considerations’ reliability part was paramount to me.

Options Considered:

Usually, I am a brand loyal person. I don’t jump ships very often. But this time I started looking for alternatives because of Viofo’s pricing in India. Dashcam’s from companies like 70Mai and DDPAI cost almost half of what Viofo retails in India. If anybody from Viofo is reading this, please reduce your prices, like me not everybody is brand loyal. Initially, after looking at prices on Viofo’s India website, I started looking for alternatives.

1) DDPAI Z40: I was about to buy this, had added this to my cart then thought comparing price to Amazon, if they were running any card promotional scheme or if there was a lightening deal available. Thank God, I didn’t purchase it then and there, because this is what I found on their Amazon page:



Immediately dropped this.

2) DDPAI MOLA E3: This had all the features I wanted, dual dashcam, auto glare and 2K recording. But this would just fit on the existing IRVM which for me is an eyesore. 4 Brackets would stare at me every time I’d look into the mirror. On top of that, it had inbuilt lithium batteries, and I am really fussy about keeping batteries in direct sunlight and that too In temperatures which can even melt the roads.

This is how it'd look in Thar.


(Credit: BHPian ph03n!x's ownership review on this camera)

Dropped this too.

At that point I realised wedge shaped, discreet dashcams are hard to find in other brands. So I was back to Viofo. Luckily, Viofo launched A229 Duo which I found when I was just lurking around on their site.

Purchase & Shipping

I purchased A229 Duo from Viofo.in on July 8 and within 48 hours it was with me. Fortunately, No hiccups here.

What I like:

1. Wedge Shape: I’ve been using wedge shaped dashcams only so this was something I was comfortable with. Any other shape would have me a lil awkward since I am so used to looking at that shape.

2. Resolution: This was the best resolution available after 4k which was reliable. 4k cameras have heating issues, not just in Viofo but across the brands. From what I had read on various forums, YouTube and others is 4k cameras tend to overheat after a certain time. Some even freeze in between recordings. So, there was a fair chance it would stop in between and TBH, this is something which if it doesn’t work as intended defeats the whole purpose of having it.

This one has Front as well as back - 2k cameras.

3. Reliability: Touchwood. Haven’t used much but considering their past cameras and my experience with them, it should be reliable. Having a capacitator too makes it much more reliable than the battery ones.

4. After Sales Support: Viofo India provides warranty of 18 months on all accessories including mounts, cables etc. From what I have been told there is free pick up and drop during warranty. This was also one of the reasons why I did not shift to any other brand. From my correspondence with Mr. Vijay (Viofo India) his customer support has been excellent till now. Mostly was pre-purchase so I hope it remains the same in future as well.

5. Firmware Updates: Just like new mobile models dashcams too tend to suffer from bugs, for which Viofo provides updates based on users’ feedback. One example for this would be A119 v3, it was launched as a 2k model. But several updates later, it supports 4k resolution too. From my experience, they have added several features in models such as A119S like WDR which were not present when it was sold. This does shows that the company cares a bit and is working to improve their shortcomings in the same model.

What I don’t like:

1. Pricing: This is the elephant in the room. It pinches me more because I remember I had purchased Viofo A119 for Rs 7005 in 2017 which included hardwiring kit, CPL Filter and 32GB SD Card. A119S (without accessories) in 2018 costed Rs 6233 which included 950 as customs duty.

2. Expensive Accessories: Even the accessories are priced exorbitantly. CPL Filter alone for this, costs two grands, same goes for hardwiring kit. After paying so much, these accessories must be bundled together, at least the CPL filter should, just like they include GPS now. Back in 2017 even GPS was an accessory.

3. No adhesive clips for cable management: A119 and A119S both had these adhesive clips included in their box. But now they have been axed, probably in the name of cost cutting. Both A119 & A119S had these clips.



These clips would have been helpful to hold wire in the roof panel of the Thar as it does not even have padding in the roof panel. This is how I had to hold down the wire with double tape so that it stayed in place till I installed the panels back on. This is where adhesive clips would have been helpful.



4. No GPS Coordinates in Basement: I don’t know if this is the case with all the dashcams but this one does not get any signal for GPS in basement just like my phone’s network reception.

5. Just one additional adhesive pad: Man, this is cruel in the name of cost cutting. When someone is paying so much, at least provide him with additional adhesive pads. It’s not like it can be screwed to the surface, it needs to be stuck on windshield. What if the windshield breaks, or the user fails to paste it properly, or the pad falls and picks up dust, there could be several other reasons for pad to go waste. The bigger problem is they are not even available as a spare.

This is what happens when Aliexpress spoils you, I miss the days when mentioning an additional pad in the order comments, they'd provide it complimentary. No more now. Sigh.

This is what was included in the box apart from the main front facing camera:

1. Rear Camera
2. Coaxial Cable for Rear Camera
3. Prying Tool
4. USB A to Type C Cable for Dashcam
5. 12v Charger with 2 USB Points
6. Short USB A to Type C Cable: To Transfer files from dashcam
7. Memory Card Reader
8. 1 Extra Adhesive Pad for Front
9. 1 Extra Adhesive Pad for Rear



In excitement, forgot to capture image of box contents which I realized after installation, so this Image from Youtuber RetroCarGuy530.

Installation:

You can simply just plug the included charger to car’s port, but it becomes a hassle if your car has single port like mine. So, I found another way to do this. Since I did not buy the hardwiring kit. I used an extension cable from Maruti Suzuki (Part No: 990J0M999L1-550), was available online. Placed an order, picked it up after 2-3 days.



I removed the male cigarette lighter socket from extension cable, crimped a thimble for negative line and a fuse tap for positive line. Routed it back to the glove box with some cable ties and voila, everything's concealed.

Rather than me repeating the same thing, You can familiarise yourself with this post. It is pretty exhaustive, the only thing changed is the extension cable source as Aliexpress has been banned. So you may try the above part number.

This is the best method you can use to install a dashcam. No wire cutting, no warranty issues, no alterations to your dashcam or your car. Plus, you get an addition USB socket for charging, as the dashcam only takes one port in the supplied charger.

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Some Images









This is how it looks from Driver's view. Also notice the beautifully hand installed Honda's gorgeous IRVM.



This is how it looks when it is switched off.



This is how it looks when running normally.

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Video Quality

I haven’t uploaded any video myself since I found one video which was already available on Youtube and is no-nonsense and to the point.

Here's the one

Jump to 01:11

I'd update this thread in the future as installation for the rear cam is still pending.

Also, A big thanks to BHPians Gannu_1 & harsh79. This DIY & the choosing process could not have been successful without their help. Thank you guys again!

[Aditya]

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[Roadistan]

I have been using Viofo 119S for my Honda City car since 2017 and it is serving me well.No hiccups as far as the functionalities go except two instances where I had to factory reset the dashcam post the firmware upgrade.Bought it from AliExpress back then for 6K with accessories such as GPS mount,CPL filter etc.Now looking at their pricing for Indian market, I have no plans to reinvest in another Viofo dashcam given it’s just unreasonable.

[sundarsarma]

I am new to VIOFO user club and am extremely happy with my purchase. Yes, I do agree with @batish on the cost of this cam. However, given the features that differentiates this from other cameras out in the market makes me console myself for the price paid.

To my knowledge and homework, It's the only camera available here with Buffered parking mode that works. Even the accessory shops here in chennai agree and appreciate the quality and this feature of the camera which comes with SuperCapacitor which is the main reason for the bit higher cost comparing with the other dashcam's in the market. Neverthless, worth the price that we pay for. Recommended for those who can afford and stay relaxed in case of any incidents.

Though i did have initial glitches, these weren't a pain at all, as Vijay ( Support Gentleman) was very proactive in helping me overcome this.

Have gone for T130 3CH model and extremely satisfied. Not everyone would need a 3 CH one and i am not much convinced with interior camera's coverage and use. Since the interior camera comes built-in with the main camera, doesn't occupy much real-estate on the Windshield. Have got mine hardwired.

Dashcam's have slowly started to become a necessity for car owner's. It's no more a luxury gadget, rather, have become a necessary car accessory.

The below clip of my car being rear ended on my way to work and the guy who committed this started picking up an argument, claiming that it was my fault of applying brakes suddenly. In normal circumstances anyone in my place would have bursted out and would have picked up a fight. To my surprise, I was relaxed and said that his allegation will not work as i have the footage and he couldn't argue anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFvQKcExFZE

The damage to my car is very minimal. Thanks to Ford's idea of mounting the spare wheel in the back for Ecosport models. Else, the damage to my car would have been similar to that of the Honda's bonnet.

The A139 3CH model comes with separate camera for the interior and it's our discretion to use it or not and also the placement area is of our choice limiting to the length of the cable.

[s.sriram1989@gm]

I will be buying dash cam for first time and need help regarding a good one in market for 10-15k front and back. Since I am not going to post any videos on YouTube, I dont need any ultra HD /4k videos, any good camera that can save me legally during any unforeseen incident would suffice. From Amazon I got this one : 70mai pro plus A500s back and front for 12k bucks, any idea about how reliable it is? And installing this would effect on the warranty of new car?

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Originally Posted by Roadistan

Now looking at their pricing for Indian market, I have no plans to reinvest in another Viofo dashcam given it’s just unreasonable.

True. Their pricing is insane, but if you consider importing - the custom duties, shipping charges etc. seems understandable. Also, now the dashcams are two way - Front & Back. But if you consider brands like DDPAI etc. then it's just the loyalty which gets their customers back to them.

A119v3 or A119 Mini both seems reasonable if they reduce their prices a bit. Then they seem VFM.

Originally Posted by s.sriram1989@gm

From Amazon I got this one : 70mai pro plus A500s back and front for 12k bucks, any idea about how reliable it is? And installing this would effect on the warranty of new car?

Dude, no camera will void your warranty. Just see my post above which mentions installation. Whichever brand or camera you choose none will void your warranty. Just follow that post to T, warranty would be intact.

Now the model you've mentioned comes with inbuilt battery which IMO is not good considering our temperatures which are on either side of extremes. Temperatures reach around 60-65º easily in cars standing under direct sun, and my phone's battery has symbols on it which mentions a cross on >45º C. See:



If you think having something with a battery is fine, then go for it otherwise look for dashcams with capacitors. They're in the same range, you'll just have to read the specs before purchasing. Viofo doesn't come with batteries and from what I had researched there are some models from DDPAI which are capacitor based. So choose whichever you like.

Also, buy directly from retailers rather than Amazon. You'll find Amazon a tad expensive as they charge commission from those same sellers for listing. The model you have mentioned retails for 11k on their official retailers site. See. Same goes for viofo.in

[Captain Slow]

Originally Posted by sundarsarma

I am new to VIOFO user club and am extremely happy with my purchase. .

Does this cam support a parking mode? or some kind of sentry parking mode camera?

[Roadistan]

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

Does this cam support a parking mode? or some kind of sentry parking mode camera?

Almost all the Viofo dashcams support parking mode.You need to hardwire it and keep the parking mode on from the settings menu to achieve this.

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Originally Posted by Captain Slow

Does this cam support a parking mode? or some kind of sentry parking mode camera?

Adding to the above comment, you need to hardwire it directly to the fuse box and for that you need an additional hardwiring kit i.e not included with this camera or with any VIOFO Model. Although every model has this feature.

I'll post some pictures of the menu, soon.

[R.I.P]

I've been using Viofo too since 2016 in our Honda City, A119 and it is still going great. No issues till date. I guess that is the beauty of Capacitor based dash cams. It gets hot as hell sometimes(in the north Indian heat) but has never stopped working.

I recently got the 229 for my Jeep Compass. I tried hardwiring it(for parking mode) but the dealership was not able to get it done so we integrated it with the cigarette lighter.

[s.sriram1989@gm]

If you think having something with a battery is fine, then go for it otherwise look for dashcams with capacitors. They're in the same range, you'll just have to read the specs before purchasing. Viofo doesn't come with batteries and from what I had researched there are some models from DDPAI which are capacitor based. So choose whichever you like.

I would not prefer a cam with battery, with the temperatures in our country there is a fair chance of bursting. And as suggested will look into manufacturers website.

[sundarsarma]

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

Does this cam support a parking mode? or some kind of sentry parking mode camera?

Yes, It Does. However, you need to hardwire it to car battery. Notable feature of this is camera's parking mode is that it is Buffered. Other camera's like 70mai and DDPAI do not have this feature.

Also, since this is capacitor based device, you need not worry about battery explosion even when parked under hot sun for hours together.