Hello All, thank you for your time and valuable comments,
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Originally Posted by condor Before you proceed - are you really going to use such a vehicle, or just excited at the prospect of using the spare engine that has come your way. After spending the time, effort and money, the vehicle should be a garage decoration piece. |
It is mix of both, I have done an electric bike on my own and it is running without any problem. I want to explore ICE segment as well and improve my knowledge in the process. Now I happened to find a Tavera engine and thought using it in a GAMA specifically which is even a basic version of the turbo engine I have. In the process I thought getting additional suggestions from wider audience which found to be a good decision as I'm getting lot good suggestions over the last couple of days. I am indeed aware of the additional cost along with the donor car. But it should not cost me 3Lak for engine swap if I'm not wrong. There are some excellent GAMA available for 2lakhs which does not even require paint touch up.
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Originally Posted by Kosfactor Gypsy - Diesel will ruin it`s spirit.
Bolero - M&M`s engines are good enough but on older non ECU models you could attempt a swap.
I hope you are not adamant at swapping the engine because in this process if you come across a vehicle with decent engine, just restore it as is and enjoy it. |
Regarding the Gypsy, I don't get the attachment with respect to petrol engines. If I'm not wrong I will be improving the off road capabilities by doubling the torque. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, if it is bolero then it will be pre 2005 version only. I'm not going to touch the 75hp versions.
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Originally Posted by IshaanIan Any reason for considering the Contessa but leaving out the Ambassador? |
Only a very few RWD cars are available in India and out of which only ambassador and contessa can take this engine. Personally I do not find the ambassador as striking as the contessa, so not keeping amby in the list
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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller What is the weight of the engine, and the track width of the rear axle? |
Estimated engine + GB weight is ~300kg and the width ~1500mm
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Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain You can change the engine, if necessary, with another one from the same manufacturer, and then have your RC and subsequently your insurance updated accordingly. But you can’t put, say, a Mahindra engine into a Tata car. At least not legally.
Do think hard before you proceed with the engine change. In case you are flagged down and it is found that the engine number mentioned on the engine does not match with the RC, police will treat it as a case of theft. |
Many diesel swapped gypsy and Mahindra jeep with powerful engines are available on sale in OLX with endorsement in RC as well. Is there any recent notification that is preventing the engine swaps? At some point of time all these engines has cleared the emission regulations and are road legal, so what is stopping the engine swap and endorsement?
I'm not going to start any work until I'm clear on both technical and regulation part
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Originally Posted by ToThePoint Besides, can such modified cars be re-registered in the first place? |
Engine swap endorsement option isn't available anymore?
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Originally Posted by Sankar Our rules and regulations do not encourage swaps with a non original motor anymore, used to be a thing in the past. |
Please share any article or notification regarding the engine swap limitations, this would be helpful for many in future
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Originally Posted by ads295 Technically - An engine swap is a BIG DEAL. Make no bones about this. This is a project that will take 2 months or more to complete, and you will need the best fabricator you can find, because it's not going to be easy at all.
Do not be tempted just by having this Tavera engine in your possession. |
Honestly I'm very much tempted to use the engine in a light weight GAMA which is very basic without any fancy sensors and ECU's. So I want to use a semi modern engine which is capable of remapping in a pretty basic GAMA for fun and a practical car. I do understand the engineering difficulties of the swapping an engine, but no one has ever worked it in reverse like did with an engine in hand to my knowledge. This will be a one of a kind project in India during the transition to EV. I do not know if any future generation will touch a project like this that too with a diesel engine. I want to create a history.
On a general note regarding the engineering and fabrication, I am pretty confident the technicians I know can do anything thrown at them. I myself have experience doing so on a two wheeler - team-bhp
link (My Electric Discover | I converted my Bajaj Discover 125 to electric with a lithium-ion battery). I know two wheeler and four wheelers are completely different ball game, but I know what to do and where to do the same. I'm pretty confident on the technical front. Only thing which is not clear yet is the RC endorsement part. If the paper part is clear I would kick start the project, mostly with the GAMA.