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Old 25th February 2023, 10:06   #16
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Re: No 'edge gap' window sunfilm installation?

If you are looking for heat rejection (V Kool/ 3 M etc) and not tinting then there is no other solution

I am still loathe to install anything illegal and hence neither of my cars have these films

But in my earlier Innova & Honda City V-kool was an absolute life saver even in the heat of Madras summers

Pity the government has outlawed even films with 95% transparency
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Old 25th February 2023, 10:06   #17
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Wilful breaking of law by hook or crook is not a great practice or principle. Sunfilm ban is a stupid decision and courts should not have entered in this area but now that we have a ban, bypassing it through innovative methods is not recommended.
It's caused by the lack of clarity, even among the cops. I was once stopped, but the officer said that the sunfilm was within prescribed limits, and did not book me for it. I had 70 on the windshield, and 50 on the windows. On the other hand, people say that it's a blanket ban. Who is right then?
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Old 25th February 2023, 11:37   #18
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Re: No 'edge gap' window sunfilm installation?

I have been driving with CR70 on my windshield for the past 2 years. I don't have any films on the windows, instead I use the official accessory sun shades which does the job well. Don't have any film on the rear. I do feel the heat while getting in the car, but this setup helps the AC to cool faster and makes it comfortable inside the cabin quick. Bottom-line is the sunshades do the job quite well.
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Old 25th February 2023, 11:46   #19
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Re: No 'edge gap' window sunfilm installation?

Cops in Delhi use a razor blade to make a small nick on inside of the glass and check if there is a film installed. You may be smart but cops are smarter. It’s better to stick to the SC order of no films of any kind on glass.
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Old 25th February 2023, 13:07   #20
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It's caused by the lack of clarity, even among the cops. I was once stopped, but the officer said that the sunfilm was within prescribed limits, and did not book me for it. I had 70 on the windshield, and 50 on the windows. On the other hand, people say that it's a blanket ban. Who is right then?
Ignorance is not always bliss. As per the SC order, irrespective of the VLT, no film can be pasted by the end user. Consider it as your lucky day that the cop didn't challan you.
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Old 25th February 2023, 14:31   #21
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Ignorance is not always bliss. As per the SC order, irrespective of the VLT, no film can be pasted by the end user. Consider it as your lucky day that the cop didn't challan you.
You should go back and read my comment again. If it still isn't obvious to you, it was the Inspector who was ignorant there. In fact, the cop clearly told me that the sunfilm was "within limits".
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Old 25th February 2023, 15:57   #22
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You should go back and read my comment again. If it still isn't obvious to you, it was the Inspector who was ignorant there. In fact, the cop clearly told me that the sunfilm was "within limits".
Yes I have read the post correctly and talking about the ignorance of the cop. I was specifically answering the 'Who is right then?' question in the post. Any film on windows is not legal unless the exception is secured as per the judgement.
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Old 25th February 2023, 18:11   #23
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Cops in Delhi use a razor blade to make a small nick on inside of the glass and check if there is a film installed. You may be smart but cops are smarter. It’s better to stick to the SC order of no films of any kind on glass.
Yes I have experienced the razor test. They look for the aforementioned gap and use the razor to separate the film. Not saying that it would be impossible for them to also use the razor on an apparently gap less film, but remember they would also be warier for scratching the glass and causing damage to your property in case the windows do not have any film, which is becoming more common with UV Cut glasses.

Again, I am not advocating that anybody break the law.

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Old 25th February 2023, 19:04   #24
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Re: No 'edge gap' window sunfilm installation?

https://www.tintdude.com/forums/topi...5-filing-tint/

Yes sir, it is quite a skill to file tint at the edge properly. Professional detailing shops will easily do it for you. Not only are they familiar with these methods, they are good at it.

Your normal car accessories shops are not the place to go. Someone experienced with wraps and Films like PPF, vinyl wraps and tints will be willing to do it.

OT: do cops flag down cars even if they're not visibly dark? They are sensible too. And it's impossible to scratch test every single car on the road. They definitely flag cars down only if the glasses are visibility darker than other cars.

Regarding replacing the windows with tinted glasses, that's a modification to the car, and that's illegal. Changing your battery , upsizing your tyres, changing your headlight bulbs, sticking mesh/shades on your windows, not wearing a seatbelt in the back, changing your wheels, and probably changing the valve caps on your wheels are all illegal. So relax guys. Everything you do in this world is at your own risk.

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Old 25th February 2023, 19:41   #25
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[not wearing a seatbelt in the back, changing your wheels
This should be enforced, because someone not wearing a seat belt would be tossed around inside the vehicle, causing fatal injury to the copassengers wearing seat belts in case of an accident.
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Cops in Delhi use a razor blade to make a small nick on inside of the glass and check if there is a film installed.
Just logged in to write the same comment. I have experienced this blade test long back in 2012 (in Hyderabad) when the ban was initiated by honorable SC.

These days cops in Hyderabad are not only tearing the tints, but also issuing an e-challan. I'm also looking for a solution from the scorching sun. It is not even March yet and the Sun is on the sunny side already here in Hyderabad .
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Old 25th February 2023, 22:10   #27
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To be honest the shaving method is something that I am aware of, My brother had 3M sunfilm installed in his Creta, I do not remember exactly but it was 70% film I thibk and he had this applied to all the windows and windscreen. The installer had also used the shaving technique as the film was substantially dark and add this to a black car the cops will have a good field day. The car was challaned twice for the dark tint and use of the sun blinds. So my two cents is the shaving method does not work in real life and the cops are just going to pull you over.

Attaching a picture of the sun film

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Old 25th February 2023, 23:15   #28
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These days cops in Hyderabad are not only tearing the tints, but also issuing an e-challan.
Thank god I'm from Chennai! The cops here are so chill with tints, you could practically install a disco ball on your windshield and they'd still let you drive around.

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However, I recently came across a technique of shaving/filing full-window films
As many Bhpians say, I don't think we can consider this as a breaking of the law. As a matter of fact, the sunfilm even in the video is clear, not like 20% visibility like full black tint. However, instead of using the above tricks, you can simply use a legal level sunfilm to stick on your car's windows. Further, you can blackout using additional removable magnetic sun shades (Jet Black) which will do the job. During nighttime, you can simply remove it and use it with good visibility.

Although the trick is good, the real challenge lies in finding someone capable of doing the job without causing any damage.

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I'm also looking for a solution from the scorching sun. It is not even March yet and the Sun is on the sunny side already here in Hyderabad .
You should try using jet black magnetic sun shades, which you can easily find on Amazon. Portable ones are better, especially since the police are strict over there. With these sunshades, you can simply remove them and use them when required. Not only do they keep the car cool, but they also make you feel like a VIP, because let's be honest, who doesn't love their own personal set of shades?

Let's be clear, I'm not advocating for doing anything illegal. As long as you're using these shades for your own personal security and protection, it's all good. Just hope that others don't get any ideas and start using them for illegal activities.

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OT: do cops flag down cars even if they're not visibly dark? They are sensible too. And it's impossible to scratch test every single car on the road. They definitely flag cars down only if the glasses are visibility darker than other cars.
Sadly, the police seem to target regular citizens while giving special treatment to those with political or advocate stickers.

It's like the police have a secret VIP club where only those with political or advocate connections get the golden ticket. Meanwhile, the rest of us commoners are left to bake in the sun and face the wrath of the law. It's enough to make you want to stick a "Caution: Hot" sign on your forehead and call it a day.

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Old 26th February 2023, 14:10   #29
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Re: No 'edge gap' window sunfilm installation?

when has it become okay to obey the law blindly ? the best way of course is to challenge the law in the courts but that's really for the bravest in India.

personally i think the sun film law passed by SC was worst moment of Indian judiciary simply because of the huge number of citizens bound to suffer by it. all the while the busses carrying on with tints and curtains merrily.

i do use detachable sunblind in one of my car in highway only. Thankfully i don't drive inside city much.
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Old 27th February 2023, 07:43   #30
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The installer had also used the shaving technique as the film was substantially dark and add this to a black car the cops will have a good field day.
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To be fair, that is a really dark tint, that no hack can hide.

I also have a black Creta + Garware. Pulled up once in 27 months, only because I mistakenly crossed a yellow light.

Hypothetically, if somebody was looking to get something installed, then make sure that your installation looks close enough to the factory cut UVs, i.e. high visibility with a slight greenish tint and you have a seamless/edgeless installation.

No 'edge gap' window sunfilm installation?-img_20210608_143836.jpg

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