Swift with Pete's Digital Diesel Tuning Box. EDIT : Green Filter added

BUSA · 19th December 2007, 16:59

Top speed, i have not tested, but the car does reach 180 with ease.

Vignesh - You plan a FFE?

skmami · 21st December 2007, 13:14

Please pardon my ignorance on this subject.

Are there any side effects of using this Petes box. ? If there are no side effects why doesn't the car manufacturer do this tuning at the factory ?

Thanks

tez · 21st December 2007, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by skmami

Please pardon my ignorance on this subject.

Are there any side effects of using this Petes box. ? If there are no side effects why doesn't the car manufacturer do this tuning at the factory ?

Thanks

I guess they leave something for after market

BUSA · 22nd December 2007, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by skmami

Please pardon my ignorance on this subject.

Are there any side effects of using this Petes box. ? If there are no side effects why doesn't the car manufacturer do this tuning at the factory ?

Thanks

Its all about cost cutting measure. Tell me wont a turbocharger make the car lot more faster, why dont manufacturers give us petrol cars with turbo, cause it will increase the price.

Eddy · 22nd December 2007, 18:56

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Originally Posted by BUSA

Its all about cost cutting measure. Tell me wont a turbocharger make the car lot more faster, why dont manufacturers give us petrol cars with turbo, cause it will increase the price.

Na Busa,

I am sure there is more to it, else it makes sense to give it as an option. It would sell.

There are people who want it but do not buy it because of the fact that it is an "outside" product that affects warranty of the car.

BUSA · 22nd December 2007, 19:14

Eddy, Fiat will be selling the GP in the same set of tune as the Peted Swit is with sme engine capacity. Now if MUL sells a 90bhp Swift, they will have to give bigger tyres and ABS as compulsary on all models. I was a bit vary on installing after marketstuff but the Petes box is the best thing ever to happen to Indian Performance Industry, just plug & play, remove it before service and your warranty is intact.

Vid6639 · 22nd December 2007, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Eddy, Fiat will be selling the GP in the same set of tune as the Peted Swit is with sme engine capacity. Now if MUL sells a 90bhp Swift, they will have to give bigger tyres and ABS as compulsary on all models. I was a bit vary on installing after marketstuff but the Petes box is the best thing ever to happen to Indian Performance Industry, just plug & play, remove it before service and your warranty is intact.

It really doesn't cost as much. Either you do a remap or you have the pete's box as a piggy back. It is just a software which I am guessing can be flashed directly into the ECU.

There has to be some other reason to detune the engine. It could very well be that the gearbox/clutch is still not upto the power so play it safe they detuned it.

ABS is not there in teh getz. Maruti would have always given it as optional. Even if they were giving more power they wouldn't have upsized the tyres.

I remember the hue and cry we made with the Verna which had some 175 profile tyres in the CRDi.

BUSA · 22nd December 2007, 22:56

Agreed that cost is not the issue for cutting the power down, buttttttttt look at the Octy RS, it comes with the 1.8T which makes 150bhp, wheras the same engine puts out 180bhp in other cars like the Audi TT(old one) So why does the manufacture do it, maybe because they think that they can use the upgraded power in the future when they revamp the model?

humyum · 22nd December 2007, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Eddy, Fiat will be selling the GP in the same set of tune as the Peted Swit is with sme engine capacity. Now if MUL sells a 90bhp Swift, they will have to give bigger tyres and ABS as compulsary on all models. I was a bit vary on installing after marketstuff but the Petes box is the best thing ever to happen to Indian Performance Industry, just plug & play, remove it before service and your warranty is intact.

Linea is commin in the 90bhp tune BUT BUT...the engine everything is the same but the turbo used is different.The LINEA with the 1.3 ddis engine which is going to produce 90 bhp is gonna have a variable geometry turbo against the fixed geometry turbo of the swifts current engine
And as per cars magazine the Grand punto is going to come with the same swift engine in the 75 bhp tune itself with the fixed geometry turbo

vignesh · 31st December 2007, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Top speed, i have not tested, but the car does reach 180 with ease.

Vignesh - You plan a FFE?

Busa, i have changed only the tailend as of now, the front end looks a little complicated with the CAt and the turbocharger pipes are very near the front end, so have to take some time to figure out if it would be worthwhile to play around.

There is however no exhaust note, this is due to the fact that i haev not rmoved the CAT, am not sure if i put in a mangoose or a scorpion exhaust, if there would be more gain or noise.

cheers.

BUSA · 31st December 2007, 14:59

Getting a good note out of a diesel wont be a easy job. Its not worth playing with the exhaust of a new car.

However you can go to a expert and he will do the needful, but make sure he knows what he is doing. Also with FFE noise levels will become higher as per what some tuners have told me.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 31st December 2007, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Its all about cost cutting measure. Tell me wont a turbocharger make the car lot more faster, why dont manufacturers give us petrol cars with turbo, cause it will increase the price.

A 75 bhp, 190Nm swift is more than powerful for 95% of the buyers. They dont even care to upsize the tyres.

A company comes out with a turbocharged petrol, and the first question they will have to answer will be its mileage.

nikunj_cal · 7th January 2008, 11:01

Nicely put CD , I used to be a part of those people who would only look at the mileage of the car, even now i still do but as long as it gives me 15+ , I really dont bother and utlize the turbocharger to its full potential !!

9th January 2008, 12:04

BUSA, another question, where is the CAI drawing the air from? the diesel swift already draws air from the grille doesnt it? can we make it any colder than that with a CAI?

PS- my piggybank is still short of the magic figure of 30,000

all saving up has to be done covertly, as my wife will kill me if she finds out I'm planning engine mods. someday i will get that tuning box....sigh!

BUSA · 10th January 2008, 20:27

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BUSA, another question, where is the CAI drawing the air from?

From below the car, next to the gearbox.

19th December 2007, 16:59	#211
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Top speed, i have not tested, but the car does reach 180 with ease. Vignesh - You plan a FFE?
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21st December 2007, 13:14	#212
skmami BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 152 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	what are the drawbacks of this pete's box Please pardon my ignorance on this subject. Are there any side effects of using this Petes box. ? If there are no side effects why doesn't the car manufacturer do this tuning at the factory ? Thanks
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22nd December 2007, 19:14	#216
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Eddy, Fiat will be selling the GP in the same set of tune as the Peted Swit is with sme engine capacity. Now if MUL sells a 90bhp Swift, they will have to give bigger tyres and ABS as compulsary on all models. I was a bit vary on installing after marketstuff but the Petes box is the best thing ever to happen to Indian Performance Industry, just plug & play, remove it before service and your warranty is intact.
	() Thanks

22nd December 2007, 22:56	#218
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Agreed that cost is not the issue for cutting the power down, buttttttttt look at the Octy RS, it comes with the 1.8T which makes 150bhp, wheras the same engine puts out 180bhp in other cars like the Audi TT(old one) So why does the manufacture do it, maybe because they think that they can use the upgraded power in the future when they revamp the model?
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31st December 2007, 14:59	#221
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Getting a good note out of a diesel wont be a easy job. Its not worth playing with the exhaust of a new car. However you can go to a expert and he will do the needful, but make sure he knows what he is doing. Also with FFE noise levels will become higher as per what some tuners have told me.
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7th January 2008, 11:01	#223
nikunj_cal BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 450 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Nicely put CD , I used to be a part of those people who would only look at the mileage of the car, even now i still do but as long as it gives me 15+ , I really dont bother and utlize the turbocharger to its full potential !!
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9th January 2008, 12:04	#224
rippergeo Posts: n/a	BUSA, another question, where is the CAI drawing the air from? the diesel swift already draws air from the grille doesnt it? can we make it any colder than that with a CAI? PS- my piggybank is still short of the magic figure of 30,000 all saving up has to be done covertly, as my wife will kill me if she finds out I'm planning engine mods. someday i will get that tuning box....sigh!
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