Modifying a Premier Padmini

NOS Power · 10th January 2008, 07:13

I am in the process of modding a Premier Padmini.
I would require your help to clarify a few things.

1) Where can i source a Maruti 1.3 ltr MPFI engine and its gearbox? What
would be the pricing of them and who to contact considering that i'm from
Kolkata.

2) I want to widen the body by placing wheel arches on either side. But i
want the wheels to be at the same widened level (widening the track) .
What is the most cost effective way out. Do i need to replace the the
axles?

3) Since the Padmini is rear wheel drive, will it be possible for me to fit the
above mentioned Esteem gearbox which in general drives the front
wheels?

I require your help in these above issues guys even though it might take
some time for me to start off (i've just started working).

Thanks & Regards
NOS

planet_rocker · 10th January 2008, 13:21

show me your car first and then i will definitely give you the details.

but tell me something:

1. why do you want the transplant?
2. why dont you just get hold of a esteem/swift and play around with it?
3. tell us more about yourself - where do you stay? - what is your name? how about a pic of your car. (use http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/introduce-yourself/ )

have you seen these?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...hlight=Padmini

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...hlight=Padmini

about your queries:

1. get in touch with MASS in Kolkata.
2. get in touch with either Mr. Niaz Ali (Hell Kuul), Mr. Dhabhar (DHABHAR.BEHRAM) or 1100D in the forum or the tuners in Kolkata who were in this business few years ago. i am sure you must have heard about Asgar da, Kochi, Mithil Chakraborty, Alok da.
3. try the gypsy engine and gear box / go through the 4th link i gave you.

NOS Power · 10th January 2008, 21:56

Thanks for your reply Planet. Those thread links are really of great help.

Well i'm Joseph from Thakurpukur. I do not have the car yet. There's one in my "para" which the old man is willing to sell. But i have to wait before funds come in. I'm making an enquiry before i set out.

I'm pretty new to these things so i don't know any of the people or MASS whom you've mentioned.

I don't want to buy an esteem or swift cause they'll just end up looking the same. I want to challenge my own creative mind so and moreover the padmini has caught my eye to do something interesting with.

I'm actually interested in a fuel injected engine cause i might go in for ECU upgrades in the future. But if it gets out of hand (both logically & financially) then i might just chuck the idea.

Hope you can help me out.

Regards
Joseph

planet_rocker · 11th January 2008, 12:34

well - you can make a stock car go fast - just gotto tune her properly - also a stock engine can be modified to make the car go faster.

all you gotto do is get in touch with the right people - there are a couple of people (fiat owners) who owns Rally Spec Fiats in kolkata. one of them stays behind New Market, Esplanade and the other person stays @ Rodown Street (near Cookie Jar) - get in touch with the mechs who used to tune the rally spec fiats - Alok da, Azgar da to get some idea as to how you can go about with the project.

but what i think is that - if you do the transplant the car will have the body of a Fiat but its soul will be missing.

Akshay1234 · 11th January 2008, 12:49

heres an idea. i had seen a padmini at the mumbai speed run. it had a turboed contessa engine. and that thing was fast. it almost beat an octavia rs in the quarter mile. infact it even had the lead for 3/4th of the race.

PAVAN KADAM · 12th January 2008, 18:38

Planet Rocker i agree with you,

I had a chance to restore one Padmini for my Cousin,

I retained the original engine,(Completely redone)

Did the complete floor works and a dupont paint finish, and custom color for the upholstery.

The car still runs on petrol, and yes if tuned properly the stock car itself can handle well and go fast.

It actually doesnt make sense swapping the engine.

NOS Power · 12th January 2008, 21:51

Pavan, could you suggest how much it would cost for the stock engine overhaul and the dupont paint job?

NOS Power · 13th January 2008, 13:46

Hey planet,
Went and met this Satya Da in behala and talked to him about a possible S1 purchase. He'll let me know after talking to the owner.

He's got a small garage and has been servicing fiat's for as long as he's been a mechanic and is quite passionate about the car. He was quite stunned that someone of this generation wanted to buy a fiat!!!!!!!!!

For everyone's info, he's got an old padmini lying in his garage. its engine life is over but to my surprise the body remains in a superb condition. If anyone wants a donor car for body parts let me know.

Regards
NOS

kavesh55 · 13th January 2008, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOS Power

Hey planet,
Went and met this Satya Da in behala and talked to him about a possible S1 purchase. He'll let me know after talking to the owner.

He's got a small garage and has been servicing fiat's for as long as he's been a mechanic and is quite passionate about the car. He was quite stunned that someone of this generation wanted to buy a fiat!!!!!!!!!

For everyone's info, he's got an old padmini lying in his garage. its engine life is over but to my surprise the body remains in a superb condition. If anyone wants a donor car for body parts let me know.

Regards
NOS

hi NOS i would love to but im al the way in mumbai doesnt make sense. S1 is a good onw ive got one. and i believe its like vtec to ohc.

10th January 2008, 07:13	#1
NOS Power BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kolkata Posts: 404 Thanked: 79 Times View My Garage	Modifying a Premier Padmini I am in the process of modding a Premier Padmini. I would require your help to clarify a few things. 1) Where can i source a Maruti 1.3 ltr MPFI engine and its gearbox? What would be the pricing of them and who to contact considering that i'm from Kolkata. 2) I want to widen the body by placing wheel arches on either side. But i want the wheels to be at the same widened level (widening the track) . What is the most cost effective way out. Do i need to replace the the axles? 3) Since the Padmini is rear wheel drive, will it be possible for me to fit the above mentioned Esteem gearbox which in general drives the front wheels? I require your help in these above issues guys even though it might take some time for me to start off (i've just started working). Thanks & Regards NOS
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10th January 2008, 13:21	#2
planet_rocker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bong-land Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 426 Times	show me your car first and then i will definitely give you the details. but tell me something: 1. why do you want the transplant? 2. why dont you just get hold of a esteem/swift and play around with it? 3. tell us more about yourself - where do you stay? - what is your name? how about a pic of your car. (use http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/introduce-yourself/ ) have you seen these? http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...hlight=Padmini http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hlight=Padmini http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...hlight=Padmini about your queries: 1. get in touch with MASS in Kolkata. 2. get in touch with either Mr. Niaz Ali (Hell Kuul), Mr. Dhabhar (DHABHAR.BEHRAM) or 1100D in the forum or the tuners in Kolkata who were in this business few years ago. i am sure you must have heard about Asgar da, Kochi, Mithil Chakraborty, Alok da. 3. try the gypsy engine and gear box / go through the 4th link i gave you. Last edited by planet_rocker : 10th January 2008 at 13:30.
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10th January 2008, 21:56	#3
NOS Power BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kolkata Posts: 404 Thanked: 79 Times View My Garage	Thanks for your reply Planet. Those thread links are really of great help. Well i'm Joseph from Thakurpukur. I do not have the car yet. There's one in my "para" which the old man is willing to sell. But i have to wait before funds come in. I'm making an enquiry before i set out. I'm pretty new to these things so i don't know any of the people or MASS whom you've mentioned. I don't want to buy an esteem or swift cause they'll just end up looking the same. I want to challenge my own creative mind so and moreover the padmini has caught my eye to do something interesting with. I'm actually interested in a fuel injected engine cause i might go in for ECU upgrades in the future. But if it gets out of hand (both logically & financially) then i might just chuck the idea. Hope you can help me out. Regards Joseph
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11th January 2008, 12:34	#4
planet_rocker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bong-land Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 426 Times	well - you can make a stock car go fast - just gotto tune her properly - also a stock engine can be modified to make the car go faster. all you gotto do is get in touch with the right people - there are a couple of people (fiat owners) who owns Rally Spec Fiats in kolkata. one of them stays behind New Market, Esplanade and the other person stays @ Rodown Street (near Cookie Jar) - get in touch with the mechs who used to tune the rally spec fiats - Alok da, Azgar da to get some idea as to how you can go about with the project. but what i think is that - if you do the transplant the car will have the body of a Fiat but its soul will be missing. Last edited by planet_rocker : 11th January 2008 at 12:35.
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11th January 2008, 12:49	#5
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	heres an idea. i had seen a padmini at the mumbai speed run. it had a turboed contessa engine. and that thing was fast. it almost beat an octavia rs in the quarter mile. infact it even had the lead for 3/4th of the race.
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12th January 2008, 18:38	#6
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Planet Rocker i agree with you, I had a chance to restore one Padmini for my Cousin, I retained the original engine,(Completely redone) Did the complete floor works and a dupont paint finish, and custom color for the upholstery. The car still runs on petrol, and yes if tuned properly the stock car itself can handle well and go fast. It actually doesnt make sense swapping the engine.
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12th January 2008, 21:51	#7
NOS Power BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kolkata Posts: 404 Thanked: 79 Times View My Garage	Pavan, could you suggest how much it would cost for the stock engine overhaul and the dupont paint job?
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13th January 2008, 13:46	#8
NOS Power BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kolkata Posts: 404 Thanked: 79 Times View My Garage	Hey planet, Went and met this Satya Da in behala and talked to him about a possible S1 purchase. He'll let me know after talking to the owner. He's got a small garage and has been servicing fiat's for as long as he's been a mechanic and is quite passionate about the car. He was quite stunned that someone of this generation wanted to buy a fiat!!!!!!!!! For everyone's info, he's got an old padmini lying in his garage. its engine life is over but to my surprise the body remains in a superb condition. If anyone wants a donor car for body parts let me know. Regards NOS
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