Monkeys remapped RS on the dyno. Only 144 BHP at the wheels?

Akshay1234 · 20th February 2008, 16:58

144 bhp at the wheels would be 180 at the crank taking a 20% loss. Dosent the remap offer 180 bhp at the crank. Them the figures seen find to me. Dont know about the flat spots though.

V-16 · 20th February 2008, 19:47

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Originally Posted by Mad Monkey

NAMASKAR

firstly
i am very happy with the car . Espicially happy with the way it moves .
driving my car always puts a big smile on my face .
and the remap is inpart responsible for that

secondly

i am NOT interested in chasing xxx BHP/HP. I am not going to try and get the ideal HP vs RPM line .
thats just not my thing .
the correct way to use a dyno would have a before and after run , but that was not possible .

BUT enjoyed the drive back home !

Thats what I call a great and right attitude, rather than ponder over and dissect a situation which in the first place never arose.
Monkey, you have an attitude of a winner and as long as you are satisfied, well thats what matters.
I do agree that there are flat spots which the tuner (Petes, or his team) will figure out and will do a great job of it too, im sure.
Meanwhile Monkey, enjoy your car, 144bhp-164bhp...whatever. It at least makes you smile.

ananthkamath · 20th February 2008, 21:42

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Originally Posted by GTO

Isn't a remap all about the numbers?

I think you missed what I said:

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Originally Posted by ananthkamath

GTO, why talk about absolute numbers?

Absolute, as opposed to relative, in other words, BEFORE and AFTER of the SAME car with ALL other variables held constant.

This is another thread without any real value. There's someone here who's converting HP to BHP with some silly conversion factor.

I'll tell you what the conversion factor is. Its HP = BHP * 1.00000000 . Ok?

cyneverdie · 20th February 2008, 22:37

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Originally Posted by Mad Monkey

Just the facts really ...

last full service was about 15 days ago
fuel filter , oil filter and even the pollen filter were changed
using mobil1 fully synthetic engine oil

earlier on the same day as the dyno run i got the engine decarbed at a official skoda dealership using wurth decarb solution and machine
even got the throttle body manualy cleaned and the spark plugs checked
also got the gearbox oil changed
VAS scan was fault free

buddy a decarb dumps alot of crud carbon into your oil !!!
change your oil and filter man , highly suggest OWS oil

navin · 20th February 2008, 22:43

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Originally Posted by KS Motorsport

I am looking for a stock RS

I have a stock RS. All I have had done to it since I bought it one oil change (to Mobil 1) and a tyre rotation at 10K. It has about 20 odd K on the odo. oh yes it survived 26/7 (I was stuck and being driven in the RS in the flood) and another thing I dont drive it. :-) *I can see KS throwing his spanner at me*

You can use it for reference. If you want to service/tune/decarb it go ahead it needs a service and tuning anyway. MM knows how to contact me.

cyneverdie · 20th February 2008, 23:04

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Originally Posted by cyneverdie

buddy a decarb dumps alot of crud carbon into your oil !!!
change your oil and filter man , highly suggest OWS oil

sorry man but i can't get over the fact that you decarb 'd and didnt change your oil change it ASAP man and take a look at it.

OWS!!! try it got nothing to lose

cyneverdie · 20th February 2008, 23:08

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Originally Posted by turboindia

Guys we are really happy seeing the smiles on our customers faces and not at all worried about the figures you get from anywhere. because figures make sense only when taken before and after a mod. Only then can you actually see the difference.

For those of you interested in knowing more here is some very good reading. Puma Racing Main Menu Page - flow development, engine building, technical and tuning articles

We are really happy with what we do and we make sure we keep our customers happy and we believe we have done exactly that. We are sure a lot of you will vouch for that.

Rgds,

hey man , you really should PUSH and i mean PUSH your customers to dyno ing their cars before you do your stuff to it.
Should make YOU a happier man too man plus then no one would be perplexed and discussing this ,.
cheers man

PS : did you do a 30 PSI RS ? very highly curious man.

nitroxx · 21st February 2008, 00:40

Oh man so many words..so lil action. Just go get us the AFR/REV RANGE info if you want a QUICKER car or just keep smiling about the power it already makes you FEEL! Both ways you'd be the one smiling... If youre happy now, no sense of this thread now.. unless someone smart throws in another dynoed RS chart with lesser tuning but oddly high bhp figures

My opinion, Four Seasons whereever you are, please try and get yourself a nice Gtech pro and not a dyno (unless theres loads of money in the business) and do a run before the install and one after for approximate gain information. Cya!

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 00:45

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Originally Posted by nitroxx

My opinion, Four Seasons whereever you are, please try and get yourself a nice Gtech pro and not a dyno (unless theres loads of money in the business) and do a run before the install and one after for approximate gain information. Cya!

4 seasons dont have a dyno man ! and they have access to a GTech pro when required.
KS does have a dyno ,for public use , the only in this fair city !

nitroxx · 21st February 2008, 00:48

Umm.. I dunno, if I sounded too complicated on the last post?
I'm pretty sure I meant that, if 4 SEASONS could AFFORD it, then they should get one. If not, then use the Gtech pro, before and after the run.. Merci beaucoup.

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 01:04

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Originally Posted by nitroxx

Umm.. I dunno, if I sounded too complicated on the last post?
I'm pretty sure I meant that, if 4 SEASONS could AFFORD it, then they should get one. If not, then use the Gtech pro, before and after the run.. Merci beaucoup.

sorry about that : ] as far i know they definitely dont intend on hooking themselves up with a dyno. No room anyways.

Everybody who can afford it just head to KS's place before & after the fun : PLEASE.

west · 21st February 2008, 07:15

For the amount of gains dyno chart should look like this

207 bhp, 235 ft lb torque, and I can make it happencheers:

ananthkamath · 21st February 2008, 07:45

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Originally Posted by west

For the amount of gains dyno chart should look like this

207 bhp, 235 ft lb torque, and I can make it happencheers:

can you first tell us who you are.

GTO · 21st February 2008, 17:55

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Absolute, as opposed to relative, in other words, BEFORE and AFTER of the SAME car with ALL other variables held constant.

Correct Ananth. But the dyno wasn't available at the time of the remap, while we can safely assume that the stock RS churns out atleast 150 BHP (not at the wheels). The reason this thread came up is because the remapped numbers were expected to be higher than 144 at the wheels. I guess the only way to sort this out is have Navins / another stock RS run on the dyno.

ananthkamath · 21st February 2008, 21:32

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Originally Posted by GTO

I guess the only way to sort this out is have Navins / another stock RS run on the dyno.

Till that is done someone can look around on VW vortex forums for a dyno test of a stock Volkswagen Gti/Jetta/Audi A4 1.8t sold here in the US. Its the same engine with the same K03 turbocharger. They came with 180 HP stock so I am assuming the remap offered by Pete's atleast partially mirrors that tune.

20th February 2008, 16:58	#61
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,316 Times	144 bhp at the wheels would be 180 at the crank taking a 20% loss. Dosent the remap offer 180 bhp at the crank. Them the figures seen find to me. Dont know about the flat spots though.
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21st February 2008, 00:40	#68
nitroxx Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: DXB Posts: 816 Thanked: 31 Times View My Garage	Oh man so many words..so lil action. Just go get us the AFR/REV RANGE info if you want a QUICKER car or just keep smiling about the power it already makes you FEEL! Both ways you'd be the one smiling... If youre happy now, no sense of this thread now.. unless someone smart throws in another dynoed RS chart with lesser tuning but oddly high bhp figures My opinion, Four Seasons whereever you are, please try and get yourself a nice Gtech pro and not a dyno (unless theres loads of money in the business) and do a run before the install and one after for approximate gain information. Cya!
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21st February 2008, 00:48	#70
nitroxx Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: DXB Posts: 816 Thanked: 31 Times View My Garage	Umm.. I dunno, if I sounded too complicated on the last post? I'm pretty sure I meant that, if 4 SEASONS could AFFORD it, then they should get one. If not, then use the Gtech pro, before and after the run.. Merci beaucoup. Last edited by nitroxx : 21st February 2008 at 00:51.
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21st February 2008, 07:15	#72
west BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: India Posts: 273 Thanked: 49 Times	Should look some thing like this, nothing less For the amount of gains dyno chart should look like this 207 bhp, 235 ft lb torque, and I can make it happencheers:
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