Performance Mods for Elantra CRDi

prabhuav · 24th December 2008, 11:58

Dude,

If you plan to move to bangy, buy the car in Bangy. Unless you are getting a steal in Mumbai.

Vijay

maverick030581 · 24th December 2008, 12:07

@prabhuav

I may be relocating to bangy but that is not confirmed yet and even if I do,it won't be permanent.Just for a year or two at the most.So I guess it would make sense to buy one from Mumbai,especially since I can't wait much longer to buy a dream car.

And AFAIK bangy cars command a premium,especially performance cars like the Elantra,with good reason too as it seems from this thread with users like brraj and satya

cmiuc · 24th December 2008, 13:23

After installing intercooler mileage has been increased by 1 km / ltr with AC on.

soon i will be putting a detail review.

maverick030581 · 24th December 2008, 15:25

@cmiuc

Waiting for your review sir.Detals,costs,driving experiences,installs done by whom,etc.Your hard work will be paying off for other Elantra owners I'm sure

prabhuav · 24th December 2008, 16:03

I believe other elantra owners put in a decent amount of hard work to make this happe

maverick030581 · 24th December 2008, 16:13

Yes yes,I don't mean to forget about others contributions

Thanks to brraj,prabhuav,cmiuc,mclaren and all other proud Elantra owners in Bangalore(where else would this happen) for getting their hands dirty and laying down a new path

Cheers.
PS-Awaiting cmiuc's review eagerly

prabhuav · 24th December 2008, 17:26

Hey , I did nothing to get Sathya's car ready . I did enjoy a couple of drives though

Gangsta · 20th January 2009, 21:50

Pop after a long time as tadu wanna say something.. in this

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...update-19.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by tadukuttan

Gangsta, that sounds like complete rubbish? What exactly are you trying to say?

And no, TCS does not come on at 205 kmph.

And no, it does not make it more stable than the accord.

And this is the Getz CRDi thread, lets move this to your Elantra mods thread?

TCS wont come into play in the lateral G-Force while cornering? can you give one good reason why?

Vid6639 · 20th January 2009, 22:54

TCS comes into play when the tyre loses traction i.e. when it starts spinning. TCS does not come into play when the tyre has excess sideways force. That is what ESP does and not TCS.

ESP controls the sideways loss in control.

Akshay1234 · 20th January 2009, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangsta

Pop after a long time as tadu wanna say something.. in this

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...update-19.html

TCS wont come into play in the lateral G-Force while cornering? can you give one good reason why?

because it helps limit tyre slip. now if your tyres slip while your cornering of course itll come on.

Gangsta · 20th January 2009, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

TCS comes into play when the tyre loses traction i.e. when it starts spinning. TCS does not come into play when the tyre has excess sideways force. That is what ESP does and not TCS.

ESP controls the sideways loss in control.

yup, you are right. but we are talking about TCS while cornering. ESP will apply brakes automatically in such a way the car will be in control, it is compliment by ABS too. But here while corning TCS also comes into play.

You are also right about tyre loses traction, when tyre starts spinning... what TCS do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay1234

because it helps limit tyre slip. now if your tyres slip while your cornering of course itll come on.

spot on.

that's what i was trying to tell in some other thread but i think acc. to tadukuttan it is shear rubbish.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post1136828

iraghava · 20th January 2009, 23:35

I don't think it'll come on when you're doing high speed cornering unless you try & accelerate during the same. Like Vid mentioned that's the ESP's function. TCS IMO prevents the tyre from losing traction not grip.

P.S. Tadu is right. Read here: http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/brake12.pdf HowStuffWorks "Traction Control Explained"

It works to stop wheels losing traction when accelerating, not when they loose grip. Also, a lot of people mistake Traction & Grip as one & the same, and that is absolutely not true. Remember that.

Gangsta · 20th January 2009, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

I don't think it'll come on when you're doing high speed cornering. Like Vid mentioned that's the ESP's function. TCS IMO prevents the tyre from losing traction not grip.

Why?

losing traction part you are right.

this site gives very good information. But it is half given
HowStuffWorks "Traction Control Explained"

and
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/brake12.pdf

is a very useful guide. thanx for sharing.

"once activated, the TRAC system reduces engine torque and drive wheel speed as necessary to bring the vehicles uncder control which improves vehical stability when starting, accelerating or turning on slippery roads."

Vid6639 · 20th January 2009, 23:46

Thanks ishan for the links. I'm just looking for the bosch document I have that explains both in detail.

Another short explanation is TCS limits wheel spinning and ESP is what limits the skidding. Skidding is not to be confused with ABS as ABS will work only when brakes are applied.

At 205kmph there is no way in hell that the wheels will spin. At that speed to induce a wheel spin the tyres should be going faster than what they will be at 205kmph. Unless ofcourse you were driving on oil or ice.

Akshay1234 · 21st January 2009, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangsta

spot on.

that's what i was trying to tell in some other thread but i think acc. to tadukuttan it is shear rubbish.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post1136828

hey i never said your right. i agree with tadu and vid. i doubt tcs came on when you were taking those corners.

24th December 2008, 11:58	#106
prabhuav BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 672 Thanked: 128 Times View My Garage	Dude, If you plan to move to bangy, buy the car in Bangy. Unless you are getting a steal in Mumbai. Vijay
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24th December 2008, 12:07	#107
maverick030581 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 198 Thanked: 2 Times	@prabhuav I may be relocating to bangy but that is not confirmed yet and even if I do,it won't be permanent.Just for a year or two at the most.So I guess it would make sense to buy one from Mumbai,especially since I can't wait much longer to buy a dream car. And AFAIK bangy cars command a premium,especially performance cars like the Elantra,with good reason too as it seems from this thread with users like brraj and satya
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24th December 2008, 13:23	#108
cmiuc Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 13 Times	After installing intercooler mileage has been increased by 1 km / ltr with AC on. soon i will be putting a detail review.
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24th December 2008, 15:25	#109
maverick030581 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 198 Thanked: 2 Times	@cmiuc Waiting for your review sir.Detals,costs,driving experiences,installs done by whom,etc.Your hard work will be paying off for other Elantra owners I'm sure
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24th December 2008, 16:03	#110
prabhuav BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 672 Thanked: 128 Times View My Garage	I believe other elantra owners put in a decent amount of hard work to make this happe
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24th December 2008, 16:13	#111
maverick030581 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 198 Thanked: 2 Times	Yes yes,I don't mean to forget about others contributions Thanks to brraj,prabhuav,cmiuc,mclaren and all other proud Elantra owners in Bangalore(where else would this happen) for getting their hands dirty and laying down a new path Cheers. PS-Awaiting cmiuc's review eagerly
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24th December 2008, 17:26	#112
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20th January 2009, 22:54	#114
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,727 Thanked: 43,460 Times View My Garage	TCS comes into play when the tyre loses traction i.e. when it starts spinning. TCS does not come into play when the tyre has excess sideways force. That is what ESP does and not TCS. ESP controls the sideways loss in control.
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20th January 2009, 23:35	#117
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	I don't think it'll come on when you're doing high speed cornering unless you try & accelerate during the same. Like Vid mentioned that's the ESP's function. TCS IMO prevents the tyre from losing traction not grip. P.S. Tadu is right. Read here: http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/brake12.pdf HowStuffWorks "Traction Control Explained" It works to stop wheels losing traction when accelerating, not when they loose grip. Also, a lot of people mistake Traction & Grip as one & the same, and that is absolutely not true. Remember that. Last edited by iraghava : 20th January 2009 at 23:42.
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20th January 2009, 23:46	#119
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,727 Thanked: 43,460 Times View My Garage	Thanks ishan for the links. I'm just looking for the bosch document I have that explains both in detail. Another short explanation is TCS limits wheel spinning and ESP is what limits the skidding. Skidding is not to be confused with ABS as ABS will work only when brakes are applied. At 205kmph there is no way in hell that the wheels will spin. At that speed to induce a wheel spin the tyres should be going faster than what they will be at 205kmph. Unless ofcourse you were driving on oil or ice.
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