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Originally Posted by Mpower I seriously doubt there is enough valve clearance for you to go to 16:1. Diesels have a totally different type of cylinder head with vertical valves. Plus if you want to ever run in petrol mode, then it will be impossible. |
I know, and that why i mentioned that untill we can lay our hands on engines specifically built for CNG, it will just be sort of running around the tree when you need to reach the top.
I am sure you know that diesel engines are made stronger than their petrol counterparts thus running 16:1 CR would be next to impossible anyways and even if you do then you could probably forget running the car on petrol and besides the ever lingering fear of a breakdown becaused of internal failure due to the stress on the internals.
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Originally Posted by Mpower Stock 1.6 is probably 9:1, so if you take it to 12:1 then it will show a great improvement. |
But then we are loosing the whole point arn't we.
We put CNG/LPG in our cars for economy even after the huge initial investment, and the modding the vehicle for performance on CNG/LPG. I have walked these roads for the past year and a half only to realise how stupid i was.
To admit a few realities:-
1. After CNG/LPG installation one never feels like switching over to petrol even if you know you want to do tripple digit speeds and petrol will anyday be better at doing this job.
This hampers the engine as running on CNG raises the engine operating temperature and thus overall efficiency(in terms of engine performance not FE) goes down. Simple rule of thumb-cooler engine = better performance.
Higher heat means more wear and tear of the internals, stock spark plugs enhances this effect and colder heat range plugs are needed for CNG, engine oil runs hotter which inturn again reduces its efficiency of protecting the engine as it loses its lubricating properties.
2. Raising CR- Good for CNG, but when you have to run the engine on petrol the FE figures that the engine will return will not only make you lose the smile on your face but also a lot of cash from your pockets.
Also FE on CNG will also reduce which beats the whole piont of installing it because we did so for economy, agreed that price of CNG is nothing but its such a headache to stand in long queues to fill up for just 9-10kgs which due to mods will run out even faster, thus trips to the station increase and so does the time required for the fill up. Dedicating 2-3 hours for a couple of fill ups in a day does not make sense to me.
3. CNG is meant for 50-60kmph driving in traffic and a switch over to petrol when you want performance and high speed driving but how many of us do that. Atleast i did'nt.
I remember a day when i had to pick up my cousin at 12 noon and i was already running late because i woke up late, only to realise i had no CNG and no Petrol since i had to go to Greater Noida which is approx 45kms from south delhi where i stay. Even after knowing that somebody i waiting for me i still went so fill up CNG looking at the fact that petrol would have costed me Rs325 oneway(7kmpl with A/C on my Ikon with hard driving and petrol at the time was at Rs50.XX in Delhi. so about 6.5liters of petrol. Roundtrip would be Rs650.) It took me 1hr30mins to fill up and head out and i reached there 3hrs after the scheduled time.
CNG just costed me about Rs.160 for the whole trip with A/C.
This is what CNG made me- miser.
Now that i think of that incident, i so so hate myself. I was willing to make my cousin wait, drench myself in sweat while waiting for my turn at the CNG station(remember no CNG very very little petrol so no A/C), hate being late for anything but still did'nt bother at that time.....all for what just Rs.490, i earn well to give up that amount and not let my cousin wait 3Hrs. Nevermind...
Besides this the other reasons have already been mentioned by me which are technically related to the engine and how it over a period deterioted the performance in my Ikon as CNG is definately not suited for my driving style which is fast and aggressive( i manage to do this safely aswell as i am very particular about safety-my own and others on the road.)
For me the best bet was a performance diesel or a good FE petrol car and thats why i sold the Ikon for an OHC-good mix of performance, reliability, low cost of maintenence and good FE. No CNG for the OHC.