Safari TCIC Performance mods

sunishsamuel · 25th March 2008, 14:57

Hi,

I did search the forum but could not find much details so starting a new thread.

1) What all modifications can be done to Safari TCIC to improve its throttle response and power delivery?
2) Changing engine is another option but the mods are too costly and involves gearbox change as well. (I read related threads on this)
3) From what i heard from mechanics including TASC, the turbocharger starts working only after a particular RPM and speed. Say above 60kmph. IS this correct and if so can this be modified so turbo works even at low RPM's so that there is initial pickup ?

Please suggest.

Thanks,
Sunish

kkr2k2 · 25th March 2008, 18:20

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Originally Posted by sunishsamuel

Hi,

I did search the forum but could not find much details so starting a new thread.

you are right, you wont find any.

All I can suggest you to look for any tyre / wheel upgrades.
May be you can max look out for the Performance Air filter or Performance oriented exhaust pipe. But be warned, both these might make your safari a roaring beast but not much performance gains.

Oh! the ICE. The highly respected topic on team-bhp.
(but do read the 10 risks thread before posting in that dreaded section

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3) From what i heard from mechanics including TASC, the turbocharger starts working only after a particular RPM and speed. Say above 60kmph. IS this correct and if so can this be modified so turbo works even at low RPM's so that there is initial pickup ?

RPM, yes.

vehicle speed???

is the guy nuts???

gd1418 · 25th March 2008, 18:50

The turbo in TCIC kicks in at 2100 RPM. You can add a Green Cotton or K&N filters to enhance the performance.

I don't think turbo can be modified to work on low RPM.

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Originally Posted by sunishsamuel

Hi,

I did search the forum but could not find much details so starting a new thread.

1) What all modifications can be done to Safari TCIC to improve its throttle response and power delivery?
2) Changing engine is another option but the mods are too costly and involves gearbox change as well. (I read related threads on this)
3) From what i heard from mechanics including TASC, the turbocharger starts working only after a particular RPM and speed. Say above 60kmph. IS this correct and if so can this be modified so turbo works even at low RPM's so that there is initial pickup ?

Please suggest.

Thanks,
Sunish

Su-47 · 25th March 2008, 19:38

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Originally Posted by gd1418

I don't think turbo can be modified to work on low RPM.

Why not look the VGT way

. Have you thought about it for your TCIC?

Jaggu · 25th March 2008, 21:18

get a piggy back ecu

most reliable and vfm mod with minimal mod pain.

Su-47 · 26th March 2008, 10:14

Jaggu, What exactly is a piggyback ecu?

Blue Thunder · 26th March 2008, 10:46

sunishsamuel, my suggestion would be Free Flow Exhaust with tuned 4X2X1 Headers, and performance air filters.

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

get a piggy back ecu ...

Does the TCIC model have an ECU ? I thought only the CRDe models needed one.

Blue Thunder · 26th March 2008, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Su-47

Jaggu, What exactly is a piggyback ecu?

A piggy back ecu takes signals from the existing sensors (of the already existing ECU) and modifies them to trick your ecu into reading a different value.

Su-47 · 26th March 2008, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

A piggy back ecu takes signals from the existing sensors (of the already existing ECU) and modifies them to trick your ecu into reading a different value.

Sounds similar to Pete's performance box.. Am I right?

gd1418 · 26th March 2008, 13:01

Unfortunately, the TCIC Safari doesn't have an ECU.. So what does it piggyback on?

gd1418 · 26th March 2008, 13:02

Somehow am not comfortable with retrofitting...

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Originally Posted by Su-47

Why not look the VGT way

. Have you thought about it for your TCIC?

dinu2506 · 26th March 2008, 13:18

Not sure whether any mods to the fuel pump and injectors help? This used to be one area where the old mechanics used to work on in diesel ambys

condor · 26th March 2008, 14:08

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gd1418 : Unfortunately, the TCIC Safari doesn't have an ECU..

My TASS says that the Sumo Victa Turbo with the same engine has one.

Akshay1234 · 26th March 2008, 14:12

what about something like this
Snow Performance: Home

sunishsamuel · 26th March 2008, 17:27

[quote=Blue Thunder;771887]sunishsamuel, my suggestion would be Free Flow Exhaust with tuned 4X2X1 Headers, and performance air filters.

Anyone tried this? Well i know an elephant cannot be turbocharged but still thinking of something that can satisfy me till i sell this off. Do we get performance air filters that can fit the existing box or need to do some mods?

I am not sure if Safari comes with a ECU or something i can add to the existing stock setup. Please advise.

25th March 2008, 14:57	#1
sunishsamuel BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TVM, BLR, HYD Posts: 656 Thanked: 1,112 Times	Safari TCIC Performance mods Hi, I did search the forum but could not find much details so starting a new thread. 1) What all modifications can be done to Safari TCIC to improve its throttle response and power delivery? 2) Changing engine is another option but the mods are too costly and involves gearbox change as well. (I read related threads on this) 3) From what i heard from mechanics including TASC, the turbocharger starts working only after a particular RPM and speed. Say above 60kmph. IS this correct and if so can this be modified so turbo works even at low RPM's so that there is initial pickup ? Please suggest. Thanks, Sunish
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Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	get a piggy back ecu most reliable and vfm mod with minimal mod pain.
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Su-47 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 692 Thanked: 336 Times	Jaggu, What exactly is a piggyback ecu?
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26th March 2008, 13:01	#10
gd1418 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,578 Thanked: 728 Times View My Garage	Unfortunately, the TCIC Safari doesn't have an ECU.. So what does it piggyback on?
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dinu2506 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,077 Thanked: 958 Times View My Garage	Not sure whether any mods to the fuel pump and injectors help? This used to be one area where the old mechanics used to work on in diesel ambys
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Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	what about something like this Snow Performance: Home
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sunishsamuel BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TVM, BLR, HYD Posts: 656 Thanked: 1,112 Times	[quote=Blue Thunder;771887]sunishsamuel, my suggestion would be Free Flow Exhaust with tuned 4X2X1 Headers, and performance air filters. Anyone tried this? Well i know an elephant cannot be turbocharged but still thinking of something that can satisfy me till i sell this off. Do we get performance air filters that can fit the existing box or need to do some mods? I am not sure if Safari comes with a ECU or something i can add to the existing stock setup. Please advise.
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