Swift - FFE'd, K&N'd & MOMO'd

headers · 20th November 2008, 18:08

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Originally Posted by mridul

The FFE is custom made and I have a specialist at Royapettah who makes them for all Formula Maruti Swifts & Esteem Sedans. Infact my 800 5S FFE has been customised by him

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Originally Posted by mridul

Yes the FFE has been Shankar's job..the K & N i got them installed by Shankar too....

I ve known Shankar for the past 8yrs since I started tuning my own cars and all the buddies have got exhausts made by him...

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

Isn't he Silencer Shankar ? If it is him, he should not have charged such a huge amount, he works pretty cheap, but he is good.

Guys, I need an intro to this guy! Need a FFE for my 540!

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

He is good in the roll cage too.

Wow, I can get my roll cage too!

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Originally Posted by mridul

Infact the Swift's a bit expensive because of the complex piping and its is not a welded unit, its bolt on which can be installed/removed in 30 minutes and the headers were chromed instead of the usual black colour...which is why the additional cost..technically it should have worked out to 10K...but its fine with me...

@mridul, generally all good FFEs are bolt on units that can be removed in 20 minutes.

Personally Black dissipates heat better than chrome, but chrome looks attractive!

esteem_lover · 21st November 2008, 10:06

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Originally Posted by headers

Guys, I need an intro to this guy! Need a FFE for my 540!
Wow, I can get my roll cage too!

Would cost you a LOT !!

abhilash · 21st November 2008, 11:25

I need one for my rally esteem (1400cc/MPFI). Any idea how much would it cost.

sujitm · 21st November 2008, 14:16

This is one great looking swift, especially the white color!

Love the tyres & alloys too.

nitrous · 21st November 2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by headers

Personally Black dissipates heat better than chrome, but chrome looks attractive!

You don't want to be dissipating heat in a fuel-injected engine bay.IAT sensor will sense the heat and retard timing which results in we know what.
PS: I'd love to see you painted black though,Vikram.

headers · 22nd November 2008, 07:59

Nitrous, whether you chrome plate the headers or paint it black, there is going to be heat dissipation in the engine bay. Whatever sensors you talk about is not really the concern as both will generate similar heat,

But black will dissipate faster while chrome will do it slower. What I mean is one can "touch" the black headers faster than the chrome ones.

The chrome is done purely for cosmetic purposes only as the black powder coating tends to peel off after say 10 months or so of hard use!

There are powder coated headers as well as chrome plated ones and each decide what they want!

nitrous · 22nd November 2008, 13:58

You are contradicting your own statement,uncle.
I didn't have a Thermodynamics paper in college(not that I would remember even if I did

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But,preferably its better to contain the heat within the headers and not let it radiate. This is why header wraps are used.
Refer picture.

headers · 22nd November 2008, 16:29

Nitrous, Where am i contradicting myself? All i mentioned was the heat generated is the same whereas headers is black of chrome plated.

Guess, as you see more mods done in vehicles of various types, you will understand what i mean, until then peace out!

I'm not as google proficient as you are to post pictures showing stuff! But please understand that if wraps are used in one engine type, it doesnt mean it is mandatory for all.

The design of the headers and its routing in the engine bay add a lot of meaning to performance.

Unless one cannot avoid the routing near a sensor, wraps are NOT used. And Wraps are a compromise!

mridul · 24th November 2008, 21:17

Hi
On topic on heat dissapation any metal subjected to heat can do that, immaterial its chromed/powder coated...Thats why headers are done with mild steel instead of SS to keep the exhaust temperature at optimum plus the cost factoe..Another theory is the faster the engine warms up the better it is and in addition to that the engine bay is well ventilated inside so its better...Anyway nice debate...

Cheers...

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Originally Posted by headers

Nitrous, Where am i contradicting myself? All i mentioned was the heat generated is the same whereas headers is black of chrome plated.

Guess, as you see more mods done in vehicles of various types, you will understand what i mean, until then peace out!

I'm not as google proficient as you are to post pictures showing stuff! But please understand that if wraps are used in one engine type, it doesnt mean it is mandatory for all.

The design of the headers and its routing in the engine bay add a lot of meaning to performance.

Unless one cannot avoid the routing near a sensor, wraps are NOT used. And Wraps are a compromise!

mridul · 24th November 2008, 21:19

Sorry for my last reply, thanks for the compliment and I intend to keep it this way.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by sujitm

This is one great looking swift, especially the white color!

Love the tyres & alloys too.

vrrroooomer · 28th February 2009, 17:59

Great work mridul.. really commentable. I caught hold of you while searching for white alloys. I also got a white swift which I'm planning to switch to white alloys and YOKO ES 100, size 196 60 R 15. I am thinking of 4 spoke (white) alloy from League. Comment

mridul · 28th February 2009, 23:05

Vroomer

Its basically choice...the wheels i've installed are pretty light and made sense to me..its just your choice buddy..go for it...remember white wheels need to be kept clean always to maintain that sporty look..

CHEERS

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Originally Posted by vrrroooomer

Great work mridul.. really commentable. I caught hold of you while searching for white alloys. I also got a white swift which I'm planning to switch to white alloys and YOKO ES 100, size 196 60 R 15. I am thinking of 4 spoke (white) alloy from League. Comment

Zahir · 1st March 2009, 15:01

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Originally Posted by mridul

Hello
Check out the lastest additions to my Swift, Received few inputs on certain changes like to knock off the white strip from the windscreen likewise difference in colour in fender panels which has been sorted out by Maruti...

The mods have been done only a few days back, the FFE is a 4 X 2 X 1 that has yielded a fair amount of torque in the mid range in addition to the filter...The steering wheel was pulled off from my 800 5S and the 800 5S was replaced with a Nardi Flat bottom wheel...

Cheers

Mridul

Very tasteful. I'm a fan of white alloys on white cars. How much did it set you back by?

vrrroooomer · 2nd March 2009, 14:26

Hi mridul,
I'm facing a problem of yellowing of antirust coating at the running board. I'm really sick of it. Any solutions with you? Do you think, the 3M car surface treatment is worth?

k_shanz · 8th March 2009, 01:01

Hey, jus saw your cars pics now, i liked your headers finish, from where did you got it done. I have a zen and i just got me FFE, i tuned my car from coimbatore (one who does INRC cars) but mine is just a raw metal, am thinking of coating a hi-heat resisting paint!? Is yours a branded one??

21st November 2008, 11:25	#48
abhilash BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 71 Thanked: 4 Times	I need one for my rally esteem (1400cc/MPFI). Any idea how much would it cost.
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21st November 2008, 14:16	#49
sujitm BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 70 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	This is one great looking swift, especially the white color! Love the tyres & alloys too.
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22nd November 2008, 07:59	#51
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	Nitrous, whether you chrome plate the headers or paint it black, there is going to be heat dissipation in the engine bay. Whatever sensors you talk about is not really the concern as both will generate similar heat, But black will dissipate faster while chrome will do it slower. What I mean is one can "touch" the black headers faster than the chrome ones. The chrome is done purely for cosmetic purposes only as the black powder coating tends to peel off after say 10 months or so of hard use! There are powder coated headers as well as chrome plated ones and each decide what they want!
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22nd November 2008, 13:58	#52
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	You are contradicting your own statement,uncle. I didn't have a Thermodynamics paper in college(not that I would remember even if I did ) But,preferably its better to contain the heat within the headers and not let it radiate. This is why header wraps are used. Refer picture. Attached Thumbnails
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22nd November 2008, 16:29	#53
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	Nitrous, Where am i contradicting myself? All i mentioned was the heat generated is the same whereas headers is black of chrome plated. Guess, as you see more mods done in vehicles of various types, you will understand what i mean, until then peace out! I'm not as google proficient as you are to post pictures showing stuff! But please understand that if wraps are used in one engine type, it doesnt mean it is mandatory for all. The design of the headers and its routing in the engine bay add a lot of meaning to performance. Unless one cannot avoid the routing near a sensor, wraps are NOT used. And Wraps are a compromise!
	() Thanks

28th February 2009, 17:59	#56
vrrroooomer Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 15 Thanked: 0 Times	Great work mridul.. really commentable. I caught hold of you while searching for white alloys. I also got a white swift which I'm planning to switch to white alloys and YOKO ES 100, size 196 60 R 15. I am thinking of 4 spoke (white) alloy from League. Comment
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2nd March 2009, 14:26	#59
vrrroooomer Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 15 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi mridul, I'm facing a problem of yellowing of antirust coating at the running board. I'm really sick of it. Any solutions with you? Do you think, the 3M car surface treatment is worth?
	() Thanks

8th March 2009, 01:01	#60
k_shanz BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: KL - TEN Posts: 353 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	Header finish! Hey, jus saw your cars pics now, i liked your headers finish, from where did you got it done. I have a zen and i just got me FFE, i tuned my car from coimbatore (one who does INRC cars) but mine is just a raw metal, am thinking of coating a hi-heat resisting paint!? Is yours a branded one??
	() Thanks