Shrey, first and foremost kindly spend some time in the announcement sections and learn how to use the "multi quote option". Replying to posts in bold is a sore to the eye. In internet terms, its called crying out loud.
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Originally Posted by ssjr0498 I took the Jan results of the hyd drag cuz Ashu runs a B zen, so it will be easy for you to compare as I think some of the REAL fast cars did not go to hyd this time round ) |
I don't know since how long you have been following drag racing. But to me it seems, you either conveniently forgot that Ashu's car is capable of 12.5 secs. Ashu had an issue at the Hyd drag, probably thats the timing his car clocked without NOS (shows how fast his car is inspite of the issue). Also every other fast zen I see there is a 1300 (Sharath, Raymond). So we are again comparing a 1300cc Suzi engine with a fully drag spec 1600 cc Honda engine. Some fair comparo that.
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from what I can see, all of them are honda engines!!
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Shrey, kind pull up the Indian open timings from the last 6-8 drag events held in the country. You will see the "true picture".
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Looks like you guys havent driven a "well built honda" .
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Let me guess, the only well built Honda you have driven (have you actually driven it?) is Wolf's. I already mentioned to you I have driven a Zonda running 18psi. It will eat Wolf's car for breakfast, lunch, dinner and much more. There is also another OHC Vtec running nearly 20psi boost, I have driven that as well. So unless you are trying to prove to me that the one car "you sat in" is more well built (or quicker) than these two turbo Honda's I shall not comment any further on this topic. Have you been in Shabbir's Zonda? Its fast and I have been in it personally. Have you been in Jay's Zonda? Because I have driven that car too. So if you see, your POV is limited to ONLY one well built Honda, Wolf's.
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Originally Posted by yzfrj So, all this E/B/S-Zen's and Zonda's are street legal ?? |
No engine swap is legal. Infact, even changing an end can or upgrading tire size is "illegal".
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Originally Posted by ssjr0498 Some people say, I cant see beyond a honda, well , I very well can! |
Truth is, you cant! And everyone here knows that.
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I am not one of those who goes by feel and drive cars that are elusive and nocturnal..
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Dude, just because you haven't seen these cars doesn't mean they are nocturnal.
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(cuz some crazy and very powerfull cars are driven and tested by ppl here, but never turn up at any of the events, they clean sweap the streets in the midst of the dark night when no one can see it!!.
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Most people don't like to come to the drags, because drag racing in India is a joke as of now. And its just that you haven't been around to see some of these cars in action.
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So I cant really say anything about that) I go by numbers and talk only about things that I have done and/or seen.
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Why don't you ask your very good friends Wolf, Shan2nu about the black turbo Zonda I am talking about? They will tell you in detail how the car was. Just because you weren't around, doesn't mean these cars don't exist.
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So many of us have attended so many drag meets, show me one event when a suzi has outdone a honda, racing in the same category.
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Haha! Indian open, Raj's zens can afford to give a 1 sec head start to the Honda's running in the same category. Kindly look up the best timings done in the Indian open by Raj's zen's. And compare it with the best Honda timing (apart from Madhu's). Also IIRC, Vinod Ratnam's baleno usually use to beat most of the Honda's back then too (Cola's OHC was fast again). Its only Madhu's car that is ruling the roost now, specially given that Vinod, Amit, Harsha all quit drag racing.
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Originally Posted by ssjr0498 Remember watching the Hyd drag where the B-zen took out the Zonda? // when? jan or the last one?// |
The lat drag that just got concluded. Shabbir's zen took the lead, but eventually the Bzen beat it at the finish. Zonda wasn't running NOS, Bzen was stock I hear.
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Originally Posted by ssjr0498 Weirdly, the fastest drag car in India also happens to be a Bzen and not a Zonda. Wonder why? // which car are you reffering too?// |
Are you new to drag racing? Because that run by Ashutosh Shetty is what many drag racers can only dream off. I am surprised you couldn't figure that one out. While you are at it, why don't you ask Sanju, why he didn't put a Honda engine into the 800 he built, why the baleno?
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// we were talking about NA b/e/twin cam zens and vtec's. From where did a turbo come into picture, so much for b/e zen's, then why wasn't this contraption done on a suzi engine. Why use a honda block// |
We were talking NA "stock" engines into a zen. Until you came up with the "well built, modded NA Vtec". So its fair to compare a stock engine with a modded engine, but not fair to compare a modded NA engine with a turbo engine? Wah wah! Nice set of ground rules. Have you sat in Ashu's car? Or Sharath's? Or Keshav's? Or Tazim's? To know what a Suzi is capable of? Your expertise is just limited to Honda's and that just one if you ask me.
FYI, the owner was insistent on the engine being a Honda in that zen. In case you didn't know, there is an equally insane Bzen turbo, done by FRK that won the Nandi Hill climb.
Shrey! Get your facts right. Either your memory of drag racing is really short. Or you are conveniently forgetting it to prove your "honda is the best" point.