Huge Fake Car Polish/Wax market in India

tsk13 · 28th January 2010, 22:45

Guys, there is some serious news. My uncle who has a Spares and Detailing Products retail outlet informed that almost all Formula 1 products available in the market are fake.

geeash · 28th January 2010, 23:28

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Guys, there is some serious news. My uncle who has a Spares and Detailing Products retail outlet informed that almost all Formula 1 products available in the market are fake.

this is shocking . When i enquire in shop and check the flying flag , i make sure that what i buy is genuine.

Do you mean the so called genuine formula one wax are not genuine???

knp · 29th January 2010, 07:07

Even, I was told the same from my other friend, who deals importing these stuff. He was telling that most of these F1 products are fake and if they are really imported, then their cost would be lot more. He even hinted that they just put some importer label, to show them as genuine.

tsk13 · 29th January 2010, 15:17

Geeash and knp, you shouldn't worry as Turtle Wax is widely available now. I mean Xenos has made available Turtle Wax in the North lately, it's available down South for long.

Waxpol's hard wax is another Great option, but do not forget to Buff within 2 minutes of application and go panel by panel. If this is not followed, buff will involve good amount of labour. The results of delayed Buffing are the best, but Quick buffing also produces Good and lasting results.

Chillout · 10th February 2010, 00:36

It is not possible to determine if the Formula 1 is original by just looking at the box, stickers, flags etc.,

Recently I had been to Dubai and bought Formula 1 at Carrefour Hypermarket and compared it with the one that I bought in India. The box, flags, product code and other details are exactly the same, however the one that I bought in India is a fake one and I do not see any benefit of applying it. However the one from Dubai produces a remarkable shine.

Lesson learnt - Never buy any Formula 1 product in India and we should all stop buying these spurious products.

Unfortunately I bought only one box and I dont think it would last for more than 6 to 7 applications.

gaddiwale · 13th February 2010, 20:15

Today I bought a can of Turtle Wax (270gm) for Rs. 225/-. Xenos label is there hope this is an original one. Also bought a synthetic chamois (43 X 32 X 0.2 cm) for Rs. 100/-. Tomorrow I'll try both the stuff and hope invested in right products.

akshay_b · 13th February 2010, 23:29

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Originally Posted by gaddiwale

Today I bought a can of Turtle Wax (270gm) for Rs. 225/-. Xenos label is there hope this is an original one. Also bought a synthetic chamois (43 X 32 X 0.2 cm) for Rs. 100/-. Tomorrow I'll try both the stuff and hope invested in right products.

The TW can is original for sure, Xenos is one of the distrubtors in India.
And have the same chamois, You're gonna love it

gaddiwale · 14th February 2010, 01:15

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Originally Posted by akshay_b

The TW can is original for sure, Xenos is one of the distrubtors in India.
And have the same chamois, You're gonna love it

Thanks akshay. Post the performance tomorrow.

jesal · 17th February 2010, 16:52

i bought formula one 1 today. the big box is for 220 which looks fake and small for 195 which i think is legit. i got the small one. here are pics. the left big box looks weird in print than the right one. shined it up and car is looking good. will post pics later.

blackasta · 17th February 2010, 18:09

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Originally Posted by jesal

i bought formula one 1 today. the big box is for 220 which looks fake and small for 195 which i think is legit. i got the small one. here are pics. the left big box looks weird in print than the right one. shined it up and car is looking good. will post pics later.

Next to impossible to make out the fake if not held side by side with the original one.

BTW I have ordered cleaning wax, pack of 3 mf towel and mf wash mittens - all meguiars, from amazon. (via a friend returning from US)
Should get my hands on them soon.

samsag12 · 17th February 2010, 20:32

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Originally Posted by jesal

i bought formula one 1 today. the big box is for 220 which looks fake and small for 195 which i think is legit. i got the small one. here are pics. the left big box looks weird in print than the right one. shined it up and car is looking good. will post pics later.

The big one is clearly a fake one as compared to the small one. Please note the font of the alphabets on the front of packing where a pic of formula 1 car is. It seems that the label was stretched to some extent after scanning the original one, in order to fit it in the broader tin. On the other side, the sicker on reverse is just the same.

tsk13 · 17th February 2010, 21:59

There is no clear-cut differentiation between the two to judge the authenticity. Till date the only way we had to check the authenticity was the Importer's sticker which is now missing. Moreover, as I mentioned earlier almost all fakes are doing rounds of the market (surely in the North).

NOTORIOUS · 17th February 2010, 22:03

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Originally Posted by tsk13

Guys, there is some serious news. My uncle who has a Spares and Detailing Products retail outlet informed that almost all Formula 1 products available in the market are fake.

I always buy my stock from gyro. you will always get original stuff there

bigman · 18th February 2010, 00:07

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Originally Posted by YVES

How to remove stains of waters as there is heavy water beeding after I used Colnite liquidwax.
Even after wiping with cloth some water marks stays and after it dries up looks ugly.

Are you sure thats not water swirls under the wax. My car has been sat in the rain for last few weeks and the wax I used months ago is still holding up with none of the signs you mention.

The heavy beading shows it is working.

samsag12 · 22nd February 2010, 20:10

Bought a tin of original waxpol pure wax polish. Just wanted to know is the color of wax dark grey/green or is it off white. Have a look at the 3rd pic. Why is it grey green in color.

28th January 2010, 22:45	#241
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 361 Times	Guys, there is some serious news. My uncle who has a Spares and Detailing Products retail outlet informed that almost all Formula 1 products available in the market are fake.
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29th January 2010, 07:07	#243
knp BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 241 Thanked: 42 Times	Even, I was told the same from my other friend, who deals importing these stuff. He was telling that most of these F1 products are fake and if they are really imported, then their cost would be lot more. He even hinted that they just put some importer label, to show them as genuine.
	() Thanks

29th January 2010, 15:17	#244
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 361 Times	Geeash and knp, you shouldn't worry as Turtle Wax is widely available now. I mean Xenos has made available Turtle Wax in the North lately, it's available down South for long. Waxpol's hard wax is another Great option, but do not forget to Buff within 2 minutes of application and go panel by panel. If this is not followed, buff will involve good amount of labour. The results of delayed Buffing are the best, but Quick buffing also produces Good and lasting results.
	() Thanks

10th February 2010, 00:36	#245
Chillout BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 566 Thanked: 468 Times	It is not possible to determine if the Formula 1 is original by just looking at the box, stickers, flags etc., Recently I had been to Dubai and bought Formula 1 at Carrefour Hypermarket and compared it with the one that I bought in India. The box, flags, product code and other details are exactly the same, however the one that I bought in India is a fake one and I do not see any benefit of applying it. However the one from Dubai produces a remarkable shine. Lesson learnt - Never buy any Formula 1 product in India and we should all stop buying these spurious products. Unfortunately I bought only one box and I dont think it would last for more than 6 to 7 applications.
	() Thanks

13th February 2010, 20:15	#246
gaddiwale BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 399 Thanked: 77 Times	Today I bought a can of Turtle Wax (270gm) for Rs. 225/-. Xenos label is there hope this is an original one. Also bought a synthetic chamois (43 X 32 X 0.2 cm) for Rs. 100/-. Tomorrow I'll try both the stuff and hope invested in right products. Attached Thumbnails
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17th February 2010, 16:52	#249
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	i bought formula one 1 today. the big box is for 220 which looks fake and small for 195 which i think is legit. i got the small one. here are pics. the left big box looks weird in print than the right one. shined it up and car is looking good. will post pics later. Attached Thumbnails
	() Thanks

17th February 2010, 21:59	#252
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 361 Times	There is no clear-cut differentiation between the two to judge the authenticity. Till date the only way we had to check the authenticity was the Importer's sticker which is now missing. Moreover, as I mentioned earlier almost all fakes are doing rounds of the market (surely in the North).
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22nd February 2010, 20:10	#255
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	Bought a tin of original waxpol pure wax polish. Just wanted to know is the color of wax dark grey/green or is it off white. Have a look at the 3rd pic. Why is it grey green in color. Attached Thumbnails
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