16th October 2009, 17:38
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16th October 2009, 20:04
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Pramod Last edited by pramodkumar : 16th October 2009 at 20:07. | |
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16th October 2009, 20:30
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16th October 2009, 20:57
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HIDs will consume less current and so the load on the alternator is less. As long as you are not installing a huge amp or something you are A.O.K. | |
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16th October 2009, 21:46
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16th October 2009, 22:10
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 . my horns used to die in my esteem when ever the music system was on full blast, and the wiper used to really struggle during nights when the headlights were on. I am aware that HID consumes less (a lot less power). The alternator is the weakest link in an esteem and people who know esteem will will not leave that area unattended but any ways.Quote:
1.Get your engine rebuilt and get it ported and polished with a free flow exhaust webber carbs and free flow filter(cheap and reliable) 2. Get a GTI 1.3 twin cam head and use the exhisting bottom half of the engine plus do everything in option one(much better than option one and yet reliable but expensive) 3.Get a baleno 1.6 engine and do everything in option one 4. You also have a 1.6 Twin cam suzuki head(you can try option 2 using this one as well) By doing all this you will have a car that goes fast in a straight line, if you want it to handle well arround the corners get the suspension done(options like pedders and konis are very popular), With all this mods you need better breaking, so get crossed drilled rottors and bigger pads plus wider tyres. Udit, mod is just a subject with endless possibilities, its better you do not approach a tunner with these questions, chances are you might end up getting fleceed, you have a lot of info about mods on Team BHP itself, i would love to call it a bible, please use the search function and do a lot of reaserch before spending even 1 rupee. To start with you can have the car tinkered and painted all these Mods can follow, decide now if you want it to look like type 1, 2 or 3 because their body pannels differ, they are inter-changable, but you need to procure them. Please feel free to ask me anything you want to ask about an esteem i owned a real "lemon" in delhi for close to 3 years and i happen to know places to source reliable and cheap spares in delhi. Pramod | |||
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17th October 2009, 10:23
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17th October 2009, 10:46
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| BHPian  | Sell you esteem and get a baleno I was in a similar situation when I had my 98 esteem, thought about the following options: 1.) Go the MPFI way - 83bhp 2.) Suzuki twin cam engine - 120+ bhp - source from outside 3.) Baleno 1.6 with carbs - 94bhp - would work out cheaper 4.) Twin carb setup - good power but how much? Before getting onto the mods, one needs to get the car in proper shape, I assume the following are in proper shape: 1.) Drive - left and right 2.) Steering joints & columns 3.) Wheel bearing 4.) Gear box & its mounting 5.) Suspension - struts, lower arms, bushes ( may need to change, esteem handles like a boat) 6.) Radiator 7.) Fan 8.) Alternator 9.) Niggling electrical issues, if sticking to carb get the wiring completly changed, should come between 10-15k... 10.) Brake disc & pads 11.) Check for rust - biggest killer.. The option 2 will set you back easily by at least 1.25 lakhs for the MPFI, then improving the tyres, braking, suspension, some ICE will come close to 2 lakhs.. Do you really want to go this way? Option 3 will set me back by 65k just for the engine plonking - source bhpian psycho Option 1 & 4 - don remember the rates but they are not cheap either... I sold my esteem for 90k & brought a 2006 baleno  |
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17th October 2009, 11:23
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17th October 2009, 11:25
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17th October 2009, 12:19
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For the esteem a max of 70k if selling to the dealer, well u can bargain more if you have better tyres, parts in mechanically working condition.. Last edited by Mr_Bean : 17th October 2009 at 12:20. | |
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17th October 2009, 21:40
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Udit i lost my esteem in a crazy crash. I loved this one. she was my first car, a lot of hard earned money. I learned a lot on it, i remember i just changed all my struts once to after market ones for no reason and later had to revert back. I took care of the smallest possible rattles, i spent huge money on alloys and tyres just a month before that crash happened. My point here is despite of all this when i was asking myself and team BHP wether i should rebuild the car, the answer was no, because everyone wanted my safty. Udit, no one can stop you from deciding something but we all want to be part of a decision which will be beneficial to you. If I was you I would have sold the esteem and picked up a used zen with the good body line. Then i would have gone to jama mazjid/Mayapuri and brought a used baleno engine, there are some good tuners who can take care of the transplant. for 1.5 to 1.75 lac you would have a pocket rocket which will serve you good and will be easy on the pocket to maintain, i mean a E Zen can give a stock RS a run for its money, so imagine what a b z would do. you can trade your esteem to a dealer for a zen and you will get good price for you esteem. If you like the idea of the zen then do it this way Step1:Pickup a zen with absolutely no body work (forget the number of owners, more the merrier) Step2:Get the suspension upgraded to Konis and breaks upgraded (immediately) Step3: Get some nice 14" wheels and tyres(in 2-3 months time) Step4:Look for some good baleno(esteem engine in the 15k Price range) in 25-30k price range(no ECU/Wiring harness, go for carb setup less complicated and easy on pocket)(whenever the pocket permits, never trade your old engine keep it as it might come in handy) Step 5:Have the new engine completely done up to taste(FFE, Porting/polishing And CAI) Enjoy the awesome power and the best part is get it serviced at MASS, but if you still feel power thirsty go for a super charger, want more go for a turbo charger, If you want ,more then man you've got some serious issues  . Have funPramod Last edited by pramodkumar : 17th October 2009 at 21:41. | |
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29th October 2009, 21:04
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On a related note I'd suggest you first fix all issues in the car from a good MASS/garage and then do things to make it go fast. A not so expensive way to get more performance would be to get a used 16V head(from mpfi esteem) and run it with two carbs(you would need to buy another carb and fabricate a manifold for the carbs) | ||||||
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29th October 2009, 23:39
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Finding "the reliable tooner" is a mammoth task, so it just dosent stop at the pain. Pramod | |
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