Sun Film

neotraveller · 31st May 2009, 12:33

dark tint means Visible light transmission (VLT) is lowest.
I think 5% is the lowest.

Normally films are rated with VLT, so 3M CS35 means 35% light is passed through inside. CS5 means only 5% is allowed inside.

Red Liner · 31st May 2009, 12:36

Neo, answers in bold within your message below. am no expert, but I have nothing better to do right now.

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Originally Posted by neotraveller

Hi sunfilm experts, I have to put sunfilm on my Linea now. The legal 50% film seems too light (I dont want ppl staring inside the car). 35% film is less than legal but hoping cops wont be harsh on me as its not the extreme 20 or 5% film?

I have shortlisted 4 films (rates for whole car except front windshield):
Normal - 3M SP35 : Rs.3000
Premium - 3M CS35/RE35 : Rs.4800

Normal - Llumar SR35 silver series: Rs.2200
Premium - Llumar SR35 platinum series: Rs.7500

Questions:
1) Whats difference between 3M RE & CS series? Which is better?
I think RE is metallized & CS is not. Metallized films block cellphone/GPS reception? - CS is more advanced - much better quality. I have CS70 for the front windscreen and RE50 for the sides and no issues so far. Am I satisfied? My expectations were V-Kool level.

2) The premium films look a lot lighter than the normal films. Though both have VLT @ 35%. Does this mean that premium 35 film = normal 50 film and going for premium film will be in line with RTA rules?

Hell no. Stick to the 50 rule. 35 is banned. Period.

3) Some people have reported that the sunfilm on rear-windshield seems to diffract light and you will see 20 headlights for 1 car! How to ensure that this doesnot happen?

Depends on installation. I hate it on the rear screen because of the rear defogger getting screwed because of incompetence. So I avoided it and I have no complaints.

4) Is a Warranty card provided with installation. Also what will be the terms of warranty?

Yes it is. Ask for a warranty card with detailed terms and conditions. Ask to see it before you bargain on price.

neotraveller · 31st May 2009, 13:07

Thanks Redliner.
Do you have CS-70 or CR-70 for front windshield? There is no CS70 listed with 3M. CR-70 is advanced nanotechnology based and is damn expensive too.

Here are specs from 3M website:
CS Series Specs
RE Series Specs

Looks like RE is way better than CS in terms of Total heat rejected (TSER).
I am now inching towards RE35 or RE50.

But only concern is RE is a metallized film, so will it cause a problem with cellphone/GPS reception ?

Red Liner · 31st May 2009, 13:45

Ah Sorry - error. I meant CR - Crystalline Series. Thats what I got for the front. For my Scorp - front CR 70 plus sides RE 50 came upto 10k all inclusive. So far I have had no issues with my cell phone reception.

harishnayak · 31st May 2009, 14:13

Here are few pictures of the Sun film that i got installed on my Spark 1 year after i bought it.

These pictures are basically of the sun film being pasted on the front windscreen.

Hopefully i'm posting the pictures on the right thread

f450 · 31st May 2009, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by neotraveller

dark tint means Visible light transmission (VLT) is lowest.
I think 5% is the lowest.

Normally films are rated with VLT, so 3M CS35 means 35% light is passed through inside. CS5 means only 5% is allowed inside.

Thanks, I don't think I'll go for the darkest available. Maybe 15-20%? Is there a brand of film that minimises visibility from outside, but has reasonably good visibility from inside? I don't want to be blind in the night!

Mr_Bean · 15th June 2009, 14:54

I have installed carbon sunfilm for my esteem, it came to 1650/- for the rear and 4 windows.

Was that a good option? I don't find reference to carbon sunfilm on this site.

geeash · 15th June 2009, 16:43

Quote:

I don't find reference to carbon sunfilm on this site.

I havent heard of it too. Is it indian or imported?

PhiGolden · 20th June 2009, 17:30

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Originally Posted by Red Liner

Ah Sorry - error. I meant CR - Crystalline Series. Thats what I got for the front. For my Scorp - front CR 70 plus sides RE 50 came upto 10k all inclusive. So far I have had no issues with my cell phone reception.

I am getting the same combo for my palio sdx. The quote is 10K. I will be doing the application tomorrow. I had checked with one dealer in bangalore and he mentioned that there is no law with respect to visibilty in karnataka. Can any one please clarify

jinu_joseph · 22nd June 2009, 13:12

Folks does anyone know of a authorized 3M sunfilm dealer, installer in Mulund, Mumbai ?

ricky_1605 · 6th July 2009, 08:39

guys can anyone tell me the allowed visibility of sun film in Delhi & NCR?

tsk13 · 6th July 2009, 17:42

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Originally Posted by ricky_1605

guys can anyone tell me the allowed visibility of sun film in Delhi & NCR?

What I read in Hindustan Times (NCR Edition) was 50% visibility for the sides and 70% visibility for the rear.

PhiGolden · 7th July 2009, 10:35

I had installed 3M sun films from an installer in Koramangala. front CR 70 and sides and back RE 50. It was done last week and within three days the film near the top of driver side window slightly peeled off. I went to the installer and pointed out the problem. He said it is because of the beading being too tight and even if I install again it will peel off. He cut off the top end of the film were it had peeled off

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Is This 3M Warranty! Did anyone else had a similar problem and what was the solution offered?
I had paid 9.9K for the installation.

jinu_joseph · 7th July 2009, 12:59

Hey folks nowadays most cars come with tinted glass and if you look at the rating, it mentions 75% Light transmission for the front windows and 70% Light Transmission for the side windows and back.

Now if on top of these tinted glass if i put a 70% VLT film wont that effectively reduce my VLT to 70% of 70% taking it down to 50%... making it illegal ??

jinu_joseph · 9th July 2009, 14:06

Bump. Any thoughts on this point

31st May 2009, 12:33	#346
neotraveller BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 739 Thanked: 0 Times	dark tint means Visible light transmission (VLT) is lowest. I think 5% is the lowest. Normally films are rated with VLT, so 3M CS35 means 35% light is passed through inside. CS5 means only 5% is allowed inside.
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31st May 2009, 13:07	#348
neotraveller BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 739 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks Redliner. Do you have CS-70 or CR-70 for front windshield? There is no CS70 listed with 3M. CR-70 is advanced nanotechnology based and is damn expensive too. Here are specs from 3M website: CS Series Specs RE Series Specs Looks like RE is way better than CS in terms of Total heat rejected (TSER). I am now inching towards RE35 or RE50. But only concern is RE is a metallized film, so will it cause a problem with cellphone/GPS reception ?
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31st May 2009, 13:45	#349
Red Liner Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,209 Thanked: 18,042 Times	Ah Sorry - error. I meant CR - Crystalline Series. Thats what I got for the front. For my Scorp - front CR 70 plus sides RE 50 came upto 10k all inclusive. So far I have had no issues with my cell phone reception.
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31st May 2009, 14:13	#350
harishnayak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: DELHI Posts: 1,396 Thanked: 125 Times	Here are few pictures of the Sun film that i got installed on my Spark 1 year after i bought it. These pictures are basically of the sun film being pasted on the front windscreen. Hopefully i'm posting the pictures on the right thread Attached Thumbnails
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15th June 2009, 14:54	#352
Mr_Bean BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 891 Thanked: 241 Times View My Garage	carbon sunfilm I have installed carbon sunfilm for my esteem, it came to 1650/- for the rear and 4 windows. Was that a good option? I don't find reference to carbon sunfilm on this site.
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22nd June 2009, 13:12	#355
jinu_joseph BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 188 Times	Folks does anyone know of a authorized 3M sunfilm dealer, installer in Mulund, Mumbai ? Last edited by jinu_joseph : 22nd June 2009 at 13:16.
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6th July 2009, 08:39	#356
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	guys can anyone tell me the allowed visibility of sun film in Delhi & NCR?
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7th July 2009, 10:35	#358
PhiGolden BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Banagalore Posts: 117 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	Is This 3M Warranty I had installed 3M sun films from an installer in Koramangala. front CR 70 and sides and back RE 50. It was done last week and within three days the film near the top of driver side window slightly peeled off. I went to the installer and pointed out the problem. He said it is because of the beading being too tight and even if I install again it will peel off. He cut off the top end of the film were it had peeled off . Is This 3M Warranty! Did anyone else had a similar problem and what was the solution offered? I had paid 9.9K for the installation.
	() Thanks

7th July 2009, 12:59	#359
jinu_joseph BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 188 Times	Hey folks nowadays most cars come with tinted glass and if you look at the rating, it mentions 75% Light transmission for the front windows and 70% Light Transmission for the side windows and back. Now if on top of these tinted glass if i put a 70% VLT film wont that effectively reduce my VLT to 70% of 70% taking it down to 50%... making it illegal ??
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9th July 2009, 14:06	#360
jinu_joseph BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 188 Times	Bump. Any thoughts on this point
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