[Steeroid]

PROPOSED car: Tata Safari Dicor EX

Proposed add ons/ mods:

1. V Cool film

2. Velocity Subwoofer plus JBL amp plus 2 speakers for the front

3. Pete's tuning box

4. Underbody treatment and "Teflon" coating (offered free by the dealer)

5. Optional: HUGE fog lamps to help our trucker friends see some light.

6. Imported (not included in budget): Police horn (amplified), specifically for the bus drivers in Kerala.

I dont think 50 grand will suffice for these, will they?

PS: Nice-to-have: Pop up Bazooka/Rocket Launcher for use when someone really gets on my nerves...

[Psycho]

Originally Posted by RAYZ

let me try and reverse this, IF i had a .....lets say a B8210 turbo and a blitz blow-off and a custom made intercooler and a muffler meant for turbo job's ........how much is it worth. would definitly want some feedback and prospective buyers if any???

You are in Bangalore how about a call and is the kit off a mazda rotary??? call me at 98440 69863

And there is something missing from all the rest of the posts Labour...

[manson]

my zen's gone , i like the ikon plain and simple with the alloys it has and a spoiler too and the scorpio is my bro's,so i have nothing that i could possibly customise now , will add that 50k to my bike fund !

manson.

[5u3zEr0]

Car :

Fiat Palio 1.6 GTX

Existing modifications:

Performance: Custom made free flow exhaust, custom made muffler, Dunlop Formula fm901 tyres on OE alloys.

ICE: Pioneer 8950 HU with CD changer, Premier amp, Blaupunkt speakers, MTX amp, MTX external bass control, Cerwin Vega sub, Scosche fuse block.

Planned Modifications:

MOD 1: K & N performance filter with Air intake kit
Cost : 6000
Balance : 44000

MOD 2: Headers
Cost : 8000
Balance : 36000

MOD 3: Alpine 4v HU 9830 or 9855
Cost : 15000
Balance : 21000

MOD 4: Alpine CD Changer
Cost : 9000
Balance : 12000

MOD 5: Leather Seats
Cost : 12000
Balance : ZILCH!

Now, SHOW ME THE MONEY!!

[ananthkamath]

Originally Posted by Psycho

And there is something missing from all the rest of the posts Labour...

Man, do I need to pay myself....well then I would pay myself a minimum of Rs .500/ hour of work......Then, I would be waaaaaaaaaaay over budget.

[Psycho]

Well this thread has come out really well so I thought about adding a twist to the question this time:

Assume that you have bought a turbo car and have already chipped it to 200 horses at 6 PSI and would like to take it to 325 horses what would you do to the setup to get the gains...

One minute lets add some real constraints:
1) The gearbox can only handle 220 horses at launch anything over that it will break and no parts to strengthen / replace it are available.
2) The turbo cannot be changed and it can produce only 1.1 bar of boost however this boost comes on really slow and you get it only at 4500 RPM whereas the car revs to 6000 RPM max and you dont have means to remove the rev limiter
3) Fuel pump can only flow enough to support 1 bar of boost and cannot be changed.
4) The driver takes 1.2 secs to change a gear.
5) No Piggy back ECU's work with the current setup and larger injectors are not available
6) No replacement pistons are available and the current pistons can be used to go up to 1 bar.
7) The car already has the following and the owner is not willing to change any of the parts:
- Custom intake manifold with a cold air intake with a K&N
- Free flow exhaust
- a Good BOV
- Currently using 93 octane
- Ceramettalic clutch
- a 1 bar MAP sensor
Best part of it all he hates NOS.

Current ET of the car over a 1/4 mile is 15 with lightening and slicks. The target is to drop 3 secs from this (12 secs) at the least cost possible.


Have tried to keep the situations as realistic as possible, I know it sounds hard but the clues are already there for those who get them.

[Psycho]

Come on guys over 40 views and no answers it is just a simple question with the answer staring you all in the face... you dont have to be technical to answer it.

[v1p3r]

Oh god...birthday return gift? Mean mean mean!!!

[ported_head]

Smaller sequential turbo to produce boost at the lower rpms?

Why is the boost only at 6 PSI when fuel pump can supply enough for 1 bar?

[ananthkamath]

1 gear change = 1.2 seconds
So, 3 gear changes = 3 * 1.2 = 3.6 seconds
Change the driver to one who does the gear changes within 200 milliseconds.

200 milliseconds = 0.2 seconds = 1 gearchange
Therefore, 3 gearchanges = 3 * 0.2 = 0.6 seconds

Therefore, ET saving = 3.6 - 0.6 = 3 seconds.
No need to change any parts except the nut in the driver's seat.

This doesnt cost anything unless of course you decide to use the services of a gentleman named Kenny Bernstein!

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Once this is done, we look at how to achieve 325 bhp and further lower the ET:

1 bar is the max that the fuel pump will flow. The pistons will take only 1 bar.

It is common knowledge that 1 bar = 14.7 psi

You are running 6 psi which is a deficit of 14.7 - 6 = 8.7 psi

You simply program/modifythe BOV to open at this pressure.

Am I right or am I right?

Ananth

[DRC]

Ever asked your wife or girlfriend about this...

Laugh at it...
Mod 1:Paint the car Purple
Cost: No idea (depends on the car!)

Mod2: Paint the wheels pink...
Cost: ??

Mod 3: For teh rest of the money buy stuffed toys to keep in the parcel tray...

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by DRC

Ever asked your wife or girlfriend about this...

Laugh at it...
Mod 1:Paint the car Purple
Cost: No idea (depends on the car!)

Mod2: Paint the wheels pink...
Cost: ??

Mod 3: For teh rest of the money buy stuffed toys to keep in the parcel tray...

thats a good one dude...purple,pink and stuffed toys omg!!! lucky that they dont say i want a house on wheels too...

[Psycho]

Well Ananth and Ported did get close

Mod 1: Yes you get the turbo to spool up to the complete 1 bar (the only assumption you make is that the mapping has been already been done for 1 bar as the guy has already blown a hell lotta money on it) This would translate to about an additional 50 bhp that would mean about 1.5 secs.

Mod 2 : Change the driver as he takes close to about 1.2 secs to change gears, a good driver would do it under 1 sec, assuming a good driver does it in about .8 secs would mean a saving of about 1.2 secs that would bring you close to the ballpark of 3 secs of savings.

The total bhp on this question was just a trick as you could never achieve that amount.

[dadudeonfire]

2000 for fuel
2 spare headlights if i bang original gm = 8000
2 original taillights original gm = 6000
fake muffler just for show good one so = 500
car fridge = 2000
automatic setting for side view mirrors = 10000
one too good tachometer = 6000
new number plate = 500
BULLETS ALL OVER(HAHAHAHAHHAHA) = too many so 1000
HUUUUGE SPOILER = 6000
and the rest on crash sensors...a fan...wheel covers...mud flaps...

what say guys ???

[revtech]

when are you putting up the pics of your car ??cant wait to see them

Rev