Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer

Amey · 26th December 2010, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Neil.Bhujbal

Even the exhaust,its built keeping in mind the turbo & hence not very productive in current NA state.

True, could be quite possible.

pranavt · 26th December 2010, 20:32

Congrats on the numbers my friend. Use them as a baseline and use your standalone to first get the same numbers, minus the torque undulations. A better ignition map will eliminate them. I've been going through the MS documentation and I believe it to be the real hairy chested man's ECU

Honestly, the complexity and list of features is equally mind-boggling.

Ford Rocam · 27th December 2010, 18:58

You should find out the reason for a wavy torque curve between 3,700-4,700 rpm. (could be Knocking) What fuel was used during dyno run? and whats static C:R and compression pressure in current setup at the time of Dyno.
A data log of A/F-R would have helped a lot.

Amey · 19th January 2011, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Ford Rocam

You should find out the reason for a wavy torque curve between 3,700-4,700 rpm. (could be Knocking) What fuel was used during dyno run? and whats static C:R and compression pressure in current setup at the time of Dyno.
A data log of A/F-R would have helped a lot.

Yeah I was concerned about that curve too.Anyway there could be a lot of reasons for that.
Fuel used during the dyno was Speed 97
compression is around 160-162 psi throughout.
unfortuntely, the wideband wasnt hooked up at the time of the dyno.Now it is.

Amey · 2nd March 2011, 12:35

Tadaaaa!!!!

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razor4077 · 2nd March 2011, 13:27

Awesome! This should take things to a whole new level! Shaping up very nicely dude... am following the progress closely.
There's something about modifying a Lancer... lol! I feel like I'm being bitten by that bug again

Deeps · 2nd March 2011, 14:36

LOL...Look how far you've come from a 68BHP N.A. diesel.

planet_rocker · 2nd March 2011, 16:22

Amey - lovely DOHC

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Originally Posted by razor4077

There's something about modifying a Lancer... lol! I feel like I'm being bitten by that bug again

Don't ever think think about it - or i will keep sending those pics i have with me. Heard that it remains as a stand-by car while others are used daily. PP2s are still yum - so are the replicas and the suspension.

Ricky_63 · 2nd March 2011, 19:14

WOW, now you are going #$%^& DOHC ??!?!!!!!! Nice nice. Looks like it has been "worked on"

So starts another chapter in the "DIESEL" lancers life

Cheers

Amey · 3rd March 2011, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

Awesome! This should take things to a whole new level! Shaping up very nicely dude... am following the progress closely.
There's something about modifying a Lancer... lol! I feel like I'm being bitten by that bug again

Couldn't agree more with ya! There is something about the Lancer,can't explains what exactly.

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Originally Posted by Deeps

LOL...Look how far you've come from a 68BHP N.A. diesel.

Hehehe

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Originally Posted by planet_rocker

Amey - lovely DOHC

Don't ever think think about it - or i will keep sending those pics i have with me. Heard that it remains as a stand-by car while others are used daily. PP2s are still yum - so are the replicas and the suspension.

Let's hope the swap goes on smoothly without much hiccups.

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Originally Posted by Ricky_63

WOW, now you are going #$%^& DOHC ??!?!!!!!! Nice nice. Looks like it has been "worked on"

So starts another chapter in the "DIESEL" lancers life

Cheers

toms_2191 · 5th March 2011, 23:07

awesome dude !! finally needed a twin cam!! any reason not going for a MIVEC head ? 4G92 MIVEC could have been a hell riser !

Glued to this tread.
Chears..

Amey · 6th March 2011, 10:02

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Originally Posted by toms_2191

awesome dude !! finally needed a twin cam!! any reason not going for a MIVEC head ? 4G92 MIVEC could have been a hell riser !

Glued to this tread.
Chears..

Well, to name a few,
It was discontinued a long time ago.So even if I do source one, getting parts later on would have been a problem.I did not want the MIVEC and turbo tuning complexity.I basically went for DOHC just for the heck of it and ofcourse,the better flow characteristics of a twin cam head compared to single cam.

devarshi84 · 18th March 2011, 12:40

Amey, I am really amazed at the knowledge you have and the way your build is going.

Now that the lancer is our second car, I am looking to start somewhere.

I was looking up the details of the 4g15 DOHC MIVEC head in production for the colt. Technically it should fit our head but on various websites people have suggested otherwise but without any experience of the same.

What do you think? Also from where can I procure the head? What is the total cost I am looking at?I can spend upto 60-80K just for the basic DOHC MIVEC head with install.

Looking to your guidance.

Amey · 20th March 2011, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by devarshi84

Amey, I am really amazed at the knowledge you have and the way your build is going.

Now that the lancer is our second car, I am looking to start somewhere.

I was looking up the details of the 4g15 DOHC MIVEC head in production for the colt. Technically it should fit our head but on various websites people have suggested otherwise but without any experience of the same.

What do you think? Also from where can I procure the head? What is the total cost I am looking at?I can spend upto 60-80K just for the basic DOHC MIVEC head with install.

Looking to your guidance.

Hey,
Theoretically, it should fit and if I am not mistaken, it does.Let me confirm it from the guy who sent me my head and has helped me in this build from the beginning which includes,sending some crucial parts which are impossible to get here.

Will get back to you soon.

devarshi84 · 20th March 2011, 23:34

Is the guy who sourced the head from you based out of India?

Your help is extremely appreciated. Thank you.

26th December 2010, 20:32	#242
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Congrats on the numbers my friend. Use them as a baseline and use your standalone to first get the same numbers, minus the torque undulations. A better ignition map will eliminate them. I've been going through the MS documentation and I believe it to be the real hairy chested man's ECU Honestly, the complexity and list of features is equally mind-boggling. Last edited by pranavt : 26th December 2010 at 20:35.
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27th December 2010, 18:58	#243
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer You should find out the reason for a wavy torque curve between 3,700-4,700 rpm. (could be Knocking) What fuel was used during dyno run? and whats static C:R and compression pressure in current setup at the time of Dyno. A data log of A/F-R would have helped a lot.
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2nd March 2011, 12:35	#245
Amey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 679 Thanked: 248 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Tadaaaa!!!!
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2nd March 2011, 13:27	#246
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Awesome! This should take things to a whole new level! Shaping up very nicely dude... am following the progress closely. There's something about modifying a Lancer... lol! I feel like I'm being bitten by that bug again
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2nd March 2011, 14:36	#247
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer LOL...Look how far you've come from a 68BHP N.A. diesel.
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2nd March 2011, 19:14	#249
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer WOW, now you are going #$%^& DOHC ??!?!!!!!! Nice nice. Looks like it has been "worked on" So starts another chapter in the "DIESEL" lancers life Cheers
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5th March 2011, 23:07	#251
toms_2191 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kannur/Calicut Posts: 136 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer awesome dude !! finally needed a twin cam!! any reason not going for a MIVEC head ? 4G92 MIVEC could have been a hell riser ! Glued to this tread. Chears..
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18th March 2011, 12:40	#253
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Amey, I am really amazed at the knowledge you have and the way your build is going. Now that the lancer is our second car, I am looking to start somewhere. I was looking up the details of the 4g15 DOHC MIVEC head in production for the colt. Technically it should fit our head but on various websites people have suggested otherwise but without any experience of the same. What do you think? Also from where can I procure the head? What is the total cost I am looking at?I can spend upto 60-80K just for the basic DOHC MIVEC head with install. Looking to your guidance.
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20th March 2011, 23:34	#255
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Is the guy who sourced the head from you based out of India? Your help is extremely appreciated. Thank you.
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