Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4

brraj · 24th December 2010, 11:27

Thanks all.

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Originally Posted by iceman7

I for one didn't know that so much could be done with a Magnum.

This is just the beginning with Cruze VGT turbo and clutch upgrade you can achieve even more in magnum. As i said if you have the dough you can get more.

Check the dyno figures of Remapped Cruze tested at RedRoosterRacing.

552nm of Torque
223 bhp

Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4-cruze-map.jpg

Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4-img_2809.jpg

sagarpadaki · 24th December 2010, 12:23

brraj,those BHP and torque figures for the Cruze are just insane! Those numbers are still taking time to sink into my head!!! I mean it would be like going in a roller coaster ride every time you take the cruze a spin on the highway.As it is cruze has monsterous power.With this i think it can pull a fully loaded Volvo bus and cruze easily!!

Akshay1234 · 24th December 2010, 12:32

223 Bhp at the wheels would be about 250 bhp at the crank. How is a 100bhp increase possible with just a remap? Are there other mods too on that car?

I mean 100bhp from just a remap would be fine on like a Q7 V12 TDI but on a Cruze?

Either way, I doubt it will be too reliable since it would be running on its limits.

I hope I have to eat my words, since if it is reliable we have a good alternative to Petes which makes more power.

kpzen · 24th December 2010, 12:49

Oh Dayyyuuummm !

Those numbers are insane, takes the family sedan into the supercar category.
That thing won't Cruze, it will take off.

brraj · 24th December 2010, 16:44

Even i was shocked with the torque figures, Time to collect money to upgrade cruze VGT turbo and the clutch.

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

223 Bhp at the wheels would be about 250 bhp at the crank. How is a 100bhp increase possible with just a remap? Are there other mods too on that car?

Its just a remap, with a Remap lot of things are possible.

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

I mean 100bhp from just a remap would be fine on like a Q7 V12 TDI but on a Cruze?

Either way, I doubt it will be too reliable since it would be running on its limits.

This is a conservative map, Cruze engine has much more tolerance level than what maps he has given is what the tuner says.

To check for the reliability issues let me complete around 20-30k kms in my car, Will write a review about it. These guys are so much confident with their remaps that they challenge to replace the car if you find engine problems with their remaps.

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

I hope I have to eat my words, since if it is reliable we have a good alternative to Petes which makes more power.

Even i hope so.

drpullockaran · 24th December 2010, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by brraj

Even i was shocked with the torque figures
Its just a remap, with a Remap lot of things are possible.
This is a conservative map, Cruze engine has much more tolerance level than what maps he has given is what the tuner says.

I have the Cruze and I would take the tuners graphs with a pinch of salt.
Please ask the tuner to show a before and after graphs of any car and whether the values for torque match the manufacturers figures.
I think these figures are way over board. Get them to do a dyno of a stalk car before the remap and later just after the remap.
Irmscher the tuning house of GM does not approve of anything more than 466NM at 2300 rpm and 186 bhp at 4000 rpm.
Something is cooking!! Probably the clutch plate.

cogentr · 24th December 2010, 23:50

Insane Insane numbers those. if those are true, the cars internals are being pushed to the limits, such power on a FWD car can be disastrous, over 200nm increase in torque can kill the stock clutch in no time..

Knight Rider · 25th December 2010, 02:35

Awesome figures, Is this process reversible? how does it affect the warranty of the car? Also how does the internals take the punishment, Does the tuner have any test cars that has passed the torture test (if i may say)?

blackbeast · 25th December 2010, 03:37

brraj,

what are you upto? you are talking about figures which i never even dreamt of. why change so many parameters if just a remap along with suspension,breaks and clutch to support it can bring out 225 bhp.I am obviously referring to the modification section. I do know these tuners exist on the board of team-bhp. It would be great if they pitch in.

Motoringlover · 27th December 2010, 07:55

brraj - Thank you very much for sharing the news, Could you please share if the mods have affected city drivability, I am always been shy of a remap - simply from the after effects (presumably negative). Any comments on FE. Please advise.

brraj · 27th December 2010, 11:02

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Originally Posted by cogentr

such power on a FWD car can be disastrous, over 200nm increase in torque can kill the stock clutch in no time..

The guy who drives the cruze is a maniac(most of the time in 190-220), If that was the case he would have ceased his clutch by now.

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Originally Posted by Knight Rider

Awesome figures, Is this process reversible?

Yes, you can get back to stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider

how does it affect the warranty of the car?

Any mods effects the warranty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Rider

Does the tuner have any test cars that has passed the torture test (if i may say)?

Yes, You can call him and take testdrive for yourself and findout more.

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Originally Posted by blackbeast

what are you upto?

Was just showing to what extent magnum can be modded to, thats it

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackbeast

why change so many parameters if just a remap along with suspension,breaks and clutch to support it can bring out 225 bhp.

You mentioned all but missed VGT turbo for magnum to go to that level.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackbeast

I do know these tuners exist on the board of team-bhp. It would be great if they pitch in.

Even i hope so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motoringlover

brraj - Thank you very much for sharing the news, Could you please share if the mods have affected city drivability,
I am always been shy of a remap - simply from the after effects (presumably negative).

City drivability should not be effected as the VGt turbo spools at 1800-4000rpm.

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Originally Posted by Motoringlover

Any comments on FE. Please advise.

City - 10.5
Highway - 8-9 again everything depends on you right foot.

Top speed - They did a meter down of 220kmph.

Invinsible · 27th December 2010, 17:06

It's quite possible to get some insane numbers however how safe it is for the engine internals, clutch kit, gearbox and stuff. If all the setting are kept at aggressive, I am not sure it's going to be safe for other bits on the long run.

If 550Nm of torque is at wheels that would equal to around 680NM+ torque at the crank. Now that coming off from a 2L 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine is doubtful, that's more than the 4.2L Audi engine.

I agree to other have said, a before and after graph will be more realistic to believe those figures.

kj302 · 28th December 2010, 20:18

Mind blowing!! Am visiting TDI Racing next week. Peted Magnum is not enough!

brraj · 31st December 2010, 10:56

I have asked the tuner to reply for those "Reliability" questions.

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Originally Posted by kj302

Mind blowing!! Am visiting TDI Racing next week. Peted Magnum is not enough!

Which package are you going for? A remap or turbo upgrade.

pranavt · 31st December 2010, 13:09

So it's a remap for a turbo upgrade, correct?

24th December 2010, 12:23	#92
sagarpadaki Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,211 Thanked: 5,863 Times	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 brraj,those BHP and torque figures for the Cruze are just insane! Those numbers are still taking time to sink into my head!!! I mean it would be like going in a roller coaster ride every time you take the cruze a spin on the highway.As it is cruze has monsterous power.With this i think it can pull a fully loaded Volvo bus and cruze easily!!
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24th December 2010, 12:32	#93
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,316 Times	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 223 Bhp at the wheels would be about 250 bhp at the crank. How is a 100bhp increase possible with just a remap? Are there other mods too on that car? I mean 100bhp from just a remap would be fine on like a Q7 V12 TDI but on a Cruze? Either way, I doubt it will be too reliable since it would be running on its limits. I hope I have to eat my words, since if it is reliable we have a good alternative to Petes which makes more power.
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24th December 2010, 12:49	#94
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 Oh Dayyyuuummm ! Those numbers are insane, takes the family sedan into the supercar category. That thing won't Cruze, it will take off.
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24th December 2010, 23:50	#97
cogentr BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: BLR/MAA Posts: 55 Thanked: 4 Times	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 Insane Insane numbers those. if those are true, the cars internals are being pushed to the limits, such power on a FWD car can be disastrous, over 200nm increase in torque can kill the stock clutch in no time..
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25th December 2010, 02:35	#98
Knight Rider BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 282 Thanked: 28 Times	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 Awesome figures, Is this process reversible? how does it affect the warranty of the car? Also how does the internals take the punishment, Does the tuner have any test cars that has passed the torture test (if i may say)?
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25th December 2010, 03:37	#99
blackbeast BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 349 Thanked: 161 Times	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 brraj, what are you upto? you are talking about figures which i never even dreamt of. why change so many parameters if just a remap along with suspension,breaks and clutch to support it can bring out 225 bhp.I am obviously referring to the modification section. I do know these tuners exist on the board of team-bhp. It would be great if they pitch in.
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27th December 2010, 07:55	#100
Motoringlover BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 424 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 brraj - Thank you very much for sharing the news, Could you please share if the mods have affected city drivability, I am always been shy of a remap - simply from the after effects (presumably negative). Any comments on FE. Please advise.
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27th December 2010, 17:06	#102
Invinsible Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,257 Thanked: 62 Times	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 It's quite possible to get some insane numbers however how safe it is for the engine internals, clutch kit, gearbox and stuff. If all the setting are kept at aggressive, I am not sure it's going to be safe for other bits on the long run. If 550Nm of torque is at wheels that would equal to around 680NM+ torque at the crank. Now that coming off from a 2L 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine is doubtful, that's more than the 4.2L Audi engine. I agree to other have said, a before and after graph will be more realistic to believe those figures.
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28th December 2010, 20:18	#103
kj302 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 39 Thanked: 5 Times	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 Mind blowing!! Am visiting TDI Racing next week. Peted Magnum is not enough!
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31st December 2010, 13:09	#105
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 639 Times View My Garage	Re: Re-Mapped Optra Magnum TCDI. EDIT:Dyno Graph on Pg 4 So it's a remap for a turbo upgrade, correct?
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