Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Modifications & Accessories


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 3rd December 2017, 22:00   #10816
BHPian
 
AShubrah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: DEL-IXW-PAT
Posts: 194
Thanked: 232 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenhorn View Post
I was planning to get a hella 500FF to augment my next to useless headlights, when i got the suggestion of LED driving lights. seem they are cost effective, and a credible alternative to halogen fogs, but has anybody used them? How to they compare to a halogen fog, how long have they lasted, which specific model did you buy?.
I understand we already have a thread on LED light bars, but this is for auxillary driving lamps
Any reviews welcome!
A close friend of mine got a pair of Hella Rallye 4000 Compact LED lights installed on his S-Cross 1.6 last year due to the candlelight like illumination by the OEM HID setup.
He had plans of getting the Morimoto FX-R Stage III from TRS, but the idea of opening up the headlight of a brand new car & further warranty issues made him step into the direction of auxiliary lights.
They are mounted to the front bumper, with a separate switch in one of the blank spaces next to the OEM parking sensor switch & light up the road light itís day, working very well during the rains as well, considering their 6000K colour temperature.
Hereís a link to the lights Iím talking about -
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.p...0-compact-led/
https://www.amazon.in/Hella-01181504.../dp/B00PHSSQI8
AShubrah is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 01:11   #10817
BHPian
 
adi_sun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Delhi NCR
Posts: 103
Thanked: 78 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by COMMUTER View Post

MY QUESTION:
Can I upgrade the bulbs in these 4 500ff Hellas to 100w while continuing to use 55/60w in headlights and leaving the ford fitted fogs switched off? I don't have music system or power windows. (I use head phones on my regular 500km drives). There is no other major load on the wiring.
While if you can is a technical question that depends on the quality of wire etc. Take a minute to imagine you being on the other side of your car, if you are not yet dazzled go for it.

PS Mahatama Gandhi said something about eye for eye once.
adi_sun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 01:28   #10818
BHPian
 
AShubrah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: DEL-IXW-PAT
Posts: 194
Thanked: 232 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by COMMUTER View Post
Can I upgrade the bulbs in these 4 500ff Hellas to 100w while continuing to use 55/60w in headlights and leaving the ford fitted fogs switched off? I don't have music system or power windows. (I use head phones on my regular 500km drives). There is no other major load on the wiring.
Good sir, IMHO, 4 of them is an overkill.
I constantly drive on NH-19 & NH-22, from Jamshedpur to Patna, as well as on NH-33, to Ranchi, which isnít illumited at all & find two Rallye 3000s on our Tata Safari to be sufficient in illuminating the road.

Lighting all of them up at once wouldnít be much of a problem with properly installed relays & good quality wiring.

Please make sure that the oncoming traffic doesnít suffer the wrath of these lights, as it can lead to major accidents on the highway.
AShubrah is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 07:19   #10819
Senior - BHPian
 
greenhorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 7,006
Thanked: 1,609 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Whoa those are expensive. My budget is a lot humbler, looking for something that costs within the 500ff price, which are mostly Chinese options
greenhorn is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 08:25   #10820
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Madurai
Posts: 141
Thanked: 183 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by adi_sun View Post
While if you can is a technical question that depends on the quality of wire etc. Take a minute to imagine you being on the other side of your car, if you are not yet dazzled go for it.

PS Mahatama Gandhi said something about eye for eye once.
I drive with 55w low beams on the dual carriageways. Once when I was completely blinded by oncoming traffic( two AL DOSTs overtaking each other pushing my Indica to the line separating the shoulder), I collided with a cyclist. Henceforth, whenever the oncoming traffic makes dangerous things imminent, I flash for a second or two to avoid them.
COMMUTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 08:47   #10821
Distinguished - BHPian
 
condor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Speed-brkr City
Posts: 11,287
Thanked: 5,120 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Are you looking for LED or Halogen ? IIRC the 500FF are only Halogen. LED will be more expensive.

If Halogen :
What distance do you want the lighting to be effective ?

The 500FF driving will light up the area more like the low beam and little further, but much further than the fog lamps would.

I felt it is an ok lamp. Try the Rallye 3000 or 4000 compacts if you can.

Also pls remember that 500FF is available in both Driving & Fog lamp versions. Ensure you buy the correct one.

700FF would be big for the Indica
condor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 08:53   #10822
Distinguished - BHPian
 
condor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Speed-brkr City
Posts: 11,287
Thanked: 5,120 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by COMMUTER View Post
... I decide to end the turmoil and opted for 4 Hell's 500ff wired in parallel. I have stopped switching on ford fitted fogs for expressway drives.
Quote:
Originally Posted by COMMUTER View Post
.. I was completely blinded by oncoming traffic( two AL DOSTs
The first statement makes me want to congratulate you on overtaking these AL Dosts

Anyway, 2 of those should have been sufficient and also ensured better cooling for the radiator.
condor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 10:03   #10823
Senior - BHPian
 
blackwasp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Navi Mumbai
Posts: 1,522
Thanked: 8,852 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenhorn View Post
... How to they compare to a halogen fog, how long have they lasted, which specific model did you buy?..
May I ask which vehicle you are looking to add these to? The reason being, just a bulb swap could lead to improved lighting. Other solutions like bi-xenon projector foglamps are also effective. As these are mounted low, the glare to oncoming vehicles is almost nil and they illuminate way better than even the stock headlamps.

If on a budget, you could swap the main headlight bulbs to 90/100 bulbs with relays and ceramic holders. I have such a set up on my car and it is a good upgrade over the stock for just Rs. 1500 (approx). However, be very cautious of using the high beam - I never use high beam for extended period of time - at max 1-2 minutes. The reason being it tends to get hot. People have reported blackening of their reflectors, but I never encountered this. Been using such a set up on my old Punto since 2009 and the new one since the last year and a half.

Regarding the LED vs. Halogens, personally I have grown to prefer the halogens, around 4300K bulbs to be specific. The only LED lights that I have come to like are the BMW's adaptive LED lights. They are phenomenal!
blackwasp is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 10:36   #10824
BHPian
 
AShubrah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: DEL-IXW-PAT
Posts: 194
Thanked: 232 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenhorn View Post
Whoa those are expensive. My budget is a lot humbler, looking for something that costs within the 500ff price, which are mostly Chinese options
That was exactly my reaction when I got all excited looking at the light output & asked him the price, wanting to get a set of these on our EcoSport as well.

After having looked at the accessory hubs in New Delhi, I found several LED options within the 500FF price range.
The only problem with them was the lack of warranty & the subpar illumination they provided, when compared to regular halogen auxiliary lights in the same price range.
AShubrah is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 13:41   #10825
Senior - BHPian
 
greenhorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 7,006
Thanked: 1,609 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by condor View Post
Are you looking for LED or Halogen ? IIRC the 500FF are only Halogen. LED will be more expensive.

If Halogen :
What distance do you want the lighting to be effective ?

The 500FF driving will light up the area more like the low beam and little further, but much further than the fog lamps would.

I felt it is an ok lamp. Try the Rallye 3000 or 4000 compacts if you can.
I just want a good lighting solution, and the consensus is that the stock indica headlamp assembly is useless, hence me looking for auxillary laps
Some folks were saying that LED aux lamps are more cost effective ( cheaper and better) hence me looking at LED options. I am still open to suggestions
Quote:
Also pls remember that 500FF is available in both Driving & Fog lamp versions. Ensure you buy the correct one.
How do I know which is which? especially buying online
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwasp View Post
May I ask which vehicle you are looking to add these to? The reason being, just a bulb swap could lead to improved lighting. Other solutions like bi-xenon projector foglamps are also effective. As these are mounted low, the glare to oncoming vehicles is almost nil and they illuminate way better than even the stock headlamps.
This is for an indica - the general consensus on threads is that the indica headlight is poor, and i dont want my headlights to get fogged up , plus previous efforts have not yielded much improvement
greenhorn is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 13:42   #10826
Distinguished - BHPian
 
condor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Speed-brkr City
Posts: 11,287
Thanked: 5,120 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenhorn View Post
How do I know which is which? especially buying online
The packing box will mention the type of lamp, so should not be a problem.
condor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 17:05   #10827
BHPian
 
AShubrah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: DEL-IXW-PAT
Posts: 194
Thanked: 232 Times
Default Re: Led Driving lamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenhorn View Post
How do I know which is which? especially buying online
Here you go, good sir.

Hella 500FF Driving -
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.p...ving-lamp-kit/
https://www.amazon.in/Hella-Rallye-5...inhydr18418-21

Hella 500 Fog -
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.p...-500-fog-lamp/
https://www.amazon.in/HELLA-00575097.../dp/B002MOAHCI
AShubrah is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 17:33   #10828
Senior - BHPian
 
greenhorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 7,006
Thanked: 1,609 Times
Default Re: The DRL Thread: Everything about daytime running lights

as per my understanding and the hella website, there are 3 variants of the 500
500 fog
500 driving
500FF driving.

500 fog has a flood beam
500 driving and 500FF have bothspot beams, with FF having a longer throw.

still not sure if there is a 500FF fog - the link you posted is for the 500 fog
greenhorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 18:28   #10829
Senior - BHPian
 
ashis89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 1,550
Thanked: 1,419 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

A noob speaking.

Are projector headlamps better than halogen ones?

I saw a brand new Rapid passing by and loved the beautiful projector lamps. However I looked onto the road and could hardly find any light falling on it. A Storme followed and I had the same (slightly better than Rapid) observation. An Indica cab passed with its low beam on. The Indica was a lot better than the previous two cars.

What am I missing here? Is it looks vs. functionality? Are the OEM bulbs in the expensive headlamp units of such expensive cars low powered?
ashis89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 19:45   #10830
Senior - BHPian
 
Behemoth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 1,264
Thanked: 1,786 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ashis89 View Post
A noob speaking.

Are projector headlamps better than halogen ones?

I saw a brand new Rapid passing by and loved the beautiful projector lamps. However I looked onto the road and could hardly find any light falling on it. A Storme followed and I had the same (slightly better than Rapid) observation. An Indica cab passed with its low beam on. The Indica was a lot better than the previous two cars.

What am I missing here? Is it looks vs. functionality? Are the OEM bulbs in the expensive headlamp units of such expensive cars low powered?
Not necessarily. A well designed reflector is better than projectors. Projectors are better for high lumen package lighting like HID and LED as the peripheral glare is better controlled. End of the day both systems can give good light on the road but projectors have fad value nowadays. Between a reflector system and a projector system with the same wattage halogen I would prefer a good reflector anyday.
Behemoth is online now   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Automobile Insurance Queries? Ask me rjvora_2000 Indian Car Loans & Insurance 4174 19th October 2018 16:42
The Royal Enfield Mechanics Thread: All mechanics requirements and queries here sreerajunnithan Motorbikes 431 10th October 2018 10:37
Formal dressing and tailoring for all occassions (EDIT: Put all your queries here) manaa45 Shifting gears 85 1st August 2018 11:18
The Mobile Phone Thread - Queries, decisions, discussions all here ravi_28_8 Gadgets, Computers & Software 11316 28th July 2018 12:16
The Guitar Thread - Post all Queries,tabs and info here TributE Shifting gears 79 16th January 2018 12:01


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 12:31.

Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks