Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Mortis · 2nd August 2012, 18:24

Hey just wanted to find out what the name of the Phillips stock replacement bulbs are called Xtreme Power or Extreme Vision. Im talking about the ones that are similar to stock bulbs in colour not the white/bluish ones.
Im looking to get these for my Beat. I need H4 bulbs right ? And any idea what the fog lamp bulb type is and if these are available for them ?
Also would like to know the approx cost per pair and where in Mumbai suburbs I could pick them up. Any shop at Milan Subway since its close by ?

shashank.nk · 2nd August 2012, 23:52

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Originally Posted by audioholic

Firstly, the entire job was DIY. Was a cousins car.

Did not use a relay as the fog lamp already had a relay in place. Hence the prescence of another relay and a new wiring would have become messy and to find good holders for H8/11 is not an easy job.

Is this the case with other cars too, or just the Swift comes with relays for the fog lamps ?

audioholic · 3rd August 2012, 16:22

All MSIL cars with factory fitted fog lamps come with a relay as standard, which can be found in the Main fuse box in the bonnet. Not sure about other cars as I dont have first hand experience. Usually Fog lamps come with a relay, as the control signal is from the main illumination switch(ie the combination switch or rotary switch) and then to the sub-switch to control the fog lamps. To spare the circuit from extra load of the fog lamps, usually a relay is provided. The headlamps on the other hand do not come with relays in all cases. Only some cars have relays for Headlamps.

shashank.nk · 3rd August 2012, 17:36

Just checked with my SA, Polo doesn't come with relays for fog lamps, when i told him about the upgrade he mentioned i'll have to go in for a relay to cope up with the increased wattage.

Any recommendations ?

sagarpadaki · 3rd August 2012, 19:50

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Originally Posted by shashank.nk

Just checked with my SA, Polo doesn't come with relays for fog lamps, when i told him about the upgrade he mentioned i'll have to go in for a relay to cope up with the increased wattage.

Any recommendations ?

What is the stock bulb type and wattage? What is the upgrade bulb type and wattage you are lookin for

shashank.nk · 3rd August 2012, 20:36

The stock is 12v/35w and a H8 bulb. I'm looking at a 12v/55w bulb for the fogs (Philips BV ultra,4300k) its a H11 type so will need slight modifications i guess.

sagarpadaki · 4th August 2012, 08:19

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Originally Posted by shashank.nk

The stock is 12v/35w and a H8 bulb. I'm looking at a 12v/55w bulb for the fogs (Philips BV ultra,4300k) its a H11 type so will need slight modifications i guess.

You need not worry about relay then. Total 40w difference won't harm anything. The wires can handle that. Go ahead with your upgrade.

shashank.nk · 4th August 2012, 13:48

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Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

You need not worry about relay then. Total 40w difference won't harm anything. The wires can handle that. Go ahead with your upgrade.

Hey you sure about that ? SA told me to go in for relays as he thought it was "white light" even though i mentioned its gonna be a 20w increase per bulb. Have you tried this on your car ?

sagarpadaki · 4th August 2012, 13:55

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Originally Posted by shashank.nk

Hey you sure about that ? SA told me to go in for relays as he thought it was "white light" even though i mentioned its gonna be a 20w increase per bulb. Have you tried this on your car ?

Yes I have HID on my car fogs and I have not added any additional relay. I am not sure if I20 has a relay for fogs.

If you are very particular about the relay then order a wiring harness for the required socket type and get it shipped. That would give you peace of mind . But my understanding is the stock wiring can easily take 20w more for each bulb

shashank.nk · 4th August 2012, 14:46

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Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Yes I have HID on my car fogs and I have not added any additional relay. I am not sure if I20 has a relay for fogs.

How useful are these in rains ? I want more usable light over show, will consider a HID over a halogen if its good in rain

sagarpadaki · 4th August 2012, 14:53

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Originally Posted by shashank.nk

How useful are these in rains ? I want more usable light over show, will consider a HID over a halogen if its good in rain

They are pretty good in rain since mine are 4300k bulbs the light does not get dispersed. Improvement over stock fogs in some 300 percent. If you get a plug and play kit for hid then you can go for it. Worth !

shashank.nk · 4th August 2012, 15:37

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Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

They are pretty good in rain since mine are 4300k bulbs the light does not get dispersed. Improvement over stock fogs in some 300 percent. If you get a plug and play kit for hid then you can go for it. Worth !

The BV ultra halogens are also rated at 4000k, thought there'll be a world of difference with HID's of same intensity. I'll stick to halogens as of now. Btw, where did you buy the HID kit from ?

sagarpadaki · 4th August 2012, 16:36

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Originally Posted by shashank.nk

The BV ultra halogens are also rated at 4000k, thought there'll be a world of difference with HID's of same intensity. I'll stick to halogens as of now. Btw, where did you buy the HID kit from ?

Ya better stick to higher watt bulb as now now. But if you are bent upon putting a relay then note that you Will have to splice the sleeve . Because I am pretty sure you won't get wiring harness for your fogs socket in Bangalore. You Will have to get the harness imported.

I bought mine online on ebay . Com . Pretty good quality!

swarnava.m · 5th August 2012, 23:09

This one might be a little weird.

I have a few of the blue LED parking light (wedge type) lying around. I want to attach them to the rear co-axials. What I mean is, I want to wire them up to the same wires that connect to the speakers, so that they light up when the speakers are powered. The speakers are in the boot. The purpose is nothing but just adding to the bling factor.

Two questions.
1. Will this work? Can the bulbs be lit by the power coming through the speaker signals from the HU?
2. Is it safe? I have two doubts regarding this. Firstly, is there a chance that the current through the wires would blow the LEDs? Secondly, will the low resistance of the bulb cause a short in the speaker wires, and thus blow the fuse in the HU?

Thanks in advance.

bharat4ever · 6th August 2012, 15:32

I had 4300 HIDs on my K2 i10 and changed them to OSRAM's night breakers yesterday.

Disadvantages of HIDs which i faced.

1. Very bad visibility when it rains heavily.
2. The lights actually reflect off the water layer on the roads which leads to less visibility.
3. Even in normal conditions high beam throw is bad.

Maybe it was just that the headlights of the i10 are not built for HIDs.

2nd August 2012, 18:24	#6286
Mortis Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,322 Thanked: 1,402 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here Hey just wanted to find out what the name of the Phillips stock replacement bulbs are called Xtreme Power or Extreme Vision. Im talking about the ones that are similar to stock bulbs in colour not the white/bluish ones. Im looking to get these for my Beat. I need H4 bulbs right ? And any idea what the fog lamp bulb type is and if these are available for them ? Also would like to know the approx cost per pair and where in Mumbai suburbs I could pick them up. Any shop at Milan Subway since its close by ?
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audioholic Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: BengaLuru Posts: 5,659 Thanked: 19,407 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here All MSIL cars with factory fitted fog lamps come with a relay as standard, which can be found in the Main fuse box in the bonnet. Not sure about other cars as I dont have first hand experience. Usually Fog lamps come with a relay, as the control signal is from the main illumination switch(ie the combination switch or rotary switch) and then to the sub-switch to control the fog lamps. To spare the circuit from extra load of the fog lamps, usually a relay is provided. The headlamps on the other hand do not come with relays in all cases. Only some cars have relays for Headlamps.
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shashank.nk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,696 Thanked: 1,048 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here Just checked with my SA, Polo doesn't come with relays for fog lamps, when i told him about the upgrade he mentioned i'll have to go in for a relay to cope up with the increased wattage. Any recommendations ?
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3rd August 2012, 20:36	#6291
shashank.nk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,696 Thanked: 1,048 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here The stock is 12v/35w and a H8 bulb. I'm looking at a 12v/55w bulb for the fogs (Philips BV ultra,4300k) its a H11 type so will need slight modifications i guess.
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5th August 2012, 23:09	#6299
swarnava.m BHPian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mumbai/Margao Posts: 635 Thanked: 281 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here This one might be a little weird. I have a few of the blue LED parking light (wedge type) lying around. I want to attach them to the rear co-axials. What I mean is, I want to wire them up to the same wires that connect to the speakers, so that they light up when the speakers are powered. The speakers are in the boot. The purpose is nothing but just adding to the bling factor. Two questions. 1. Will this work? Can the bulbs be lit by the power coming through the speaker signals from the HU? 2. Is it safe? I have two doubts regarding this. Firstly, is there a chance that the current through the wires would blow the LEDs? Secondly, will the low resistance of the bulb cause a short in the speaker wires, and thus blow the fuse in the HU? Thanks in advance.
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6th August 2012, 15:32	#6300
bharat4ever BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 589 Thanked: 604 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here I had 4300 HIDs on my K2 i10 and changed them to OSRAM's night breakers yesterday. Disadvantages of HIDs which i faced. 1. Very bad visibility when it rains heavily. 2. The lights actually reflect off the water layer on the roads which leads to less visibility. 3. Even in normal conditions high beam throw is bad. Maybe it was just that the headlights of the i10 are not built for HIDs.
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