ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by amidoc

Needed advice on which oil to use Shell 5W-30 is available but on amazon

You can use Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30 if you get it. Other alternatives in the same viscosity are Mobil 1 5W-30 or Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP. Both available on Amazon India.

[saurabhkum]

On similar lines can someone advice the best synthetic oil available for XUV 500. I'm not very sure but price wise what Mahindra provides as synthetic oil at the service center is quite economical, they charge almost 2k for 7 liters of synthetic oil. Hence I want to know something which is better that the one provided at service center. Please don't take this post in anyway of demeaning the quality of oil provided by service center but " Yeh Dil Maange More".

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by saurabhkum

...as synthetic oil at the service center is quite economical, they charge almost 2k for 7 liters of synthetic oil.

That is definitely not synthetic which costs about Rs 800-1K/litre. What they're charging you tells me it is mineral or at best semi synthetic.

Hence I want to know something which is better that the one provided at service center. Please don't take this post in anyway of demeaning the quality of oil provided by service center but " Yeh Dil Maange More".

My favourite synth for diesels? Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 It's a heavy duty oil and will take anything and everything an XUV 500 can throw at it. But if your car is under warranty just stick to what the service centre uses.

[amidoc]

Originally Posted by R2D2

You can use Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30 if you get it. Other alternatives in the same viscosity are Mobil 1 5W-30 or Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP. Both available on Amazon India.

thanks R2D2.
Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30 is not available. what is the diff between Mobil 1 5W-30 and 5W-30 ESP. which is one more recommended

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by amidoc

thanks R2D2. Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30 is not available. what is the diff between Mobil 1 5W-30 and 5W-30 ESP. which is one more recommended

The former is the plain Jane synthetic while the ESP version is for Exhaust System Protection, basically a low ash version which is required for some vehicles.

The ESP version costs more and I currently use it in my Corolla Altis. The extra cost isn't justified IMO. Next time I am going in for Amsoil Signature an oil with very good user feedback overseas. It has been recently been introduced here by Greaves Cotton. Amsoil Signature 5W-30

[rupdeb]

Originally Posted by amidoc

hi friends

Needed advice on which oil to use

The requirements are 5W-30 API SM/ACEA A5

You could also check out the below Mobil Super 3000 5w30 that retails for around 1500-1600 / 3 litres.

https://www.amazon.in/Mobil-FORMULA-...bil+super+3000

Originally Posted by amidoc

thanks R2D2.
Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30 is not available.

Shell Helix HX8 5w30 is available and is also synthetic grade as per Shell India website; please check the below link.

https://www.shell.in/motorists/oils-...ic-5-w-30.html

It is available in Flipkart.

https://www.flipkart.com/shell-hx8-5...97795883b94315

Regards,
Debrup.

[mxh]

Originally Posted by rupdeb

You could check out Mobil Super 3000 5w30 that retails for around 1500-1600 / 3 litres.

https://www.amazon.in/Mobil-FORMULA-...bil+super+3000

That oil is api SL though, so it may not be suitable for modern cars. And certainly not suitable for a 2017 elantra...

[Klub Class]

Just a heads up :

Motul 8100 Xcess available for ₹2484 on Amazon India. Add Amazon Pay Balance to get extra 10% cashback

[Rohan24]

Guys, needed advice on the age old question of using Engine oil flush.
Mine's an 8 yr old Fiesta petrol, which I bought at 50k kms. I'm planning to switch to Shell Helix ultra now at 70k, along with Liqui Moly Ceratec.
50k and 60k service was done at the regular interval, and engine oil was changed (Semi-synth).
Want to know the negatives of using an oil flush. I am inclined to trying it only because I read that Ceratec is bad for the engine if there's sludge build up, and I want to be absolutely sure there's no sludge. Not sure if oil was changed regularly by previous owner, hence.

[scorpian]

@Rohan24

Using an engine flush is subjective,if you read on the net you will have a divided opinion on the same. I will however try to answer it as i was in the same spot as you are a few months back.
In my case i used ceratec in my zen, had good results and i was sure about it cause i know my car history well. I have been very regular with oil changes, flushes etc etc right from it came in to my hands.
When i bought a preowned sx4 wanted to do the same, but i was not sure and so till date i have refrained. Refrained because in the pursuit for better engine i may end up doing more harm then good. So for a couple of oil changes i will replace oil at 5k in the hope that in case any sludge build up is there would clear to at-least some extent. Post that i would use an engine flush for the next 2/3 oil changes and then go for ceratec.
If you are unsure of what sludge your engine might me carrying please don't use ceratec, do a couple oil changes at quicker intervals, you can use an engine flush if you wish too. Ceratec with engine sludge is going to cause havoc.
Just my 2 paise.

[hserus]

I've just bought the Amsoil 5w40 Turbo Truck for my Scorpio - it is rated API CK4, which is the most recent spec.

Their 5w30 is available in Signature and I'll try it out for my Fiesta when its next oil change comes due.

I asked Greaves on Amazon, and they say that their 5w40 diesel signature will be introduced in India within the next few months - "by the time you next change your oil" in their words.

Originally Posted by R2D2

The former is the plain Jane synthetic while the ESP version is for Exhaust System Protection, basically a low ash version which is required for some vehicles.

The ESP version costs more and I currently use it in my Corolla Altis. The extra cost isn't justified IMO. Next time I am going in for Amsoil Signature an oil with very good user feedback overseas. It has been recently been introduced here by Greaves Cotton. Amsoil Signature 5W-30

[humyum]

Hi Guys, need advice on buying a good 15W40 Diesel engine oil for my Swift Diesel which has run 1 lakh 58 thousand km till now

I tried synthetic Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 at 1 lakh 50 thousand km and things went down from then.

1) Timing chain started making a noise
2) After the timing chain job, the engine noise increased with the tappet noise being very prominent

Shifted back to Mineral and 15w40 at 1 lakh 56 and things are steadily getting back to normal, so I will not touch synthetic on this car atleast.

Currently the last fill was Servo which the service station fills in the 15W40 grade, I am looking for something better. 15W40 Mobil Devlac MX is not available easily, if someone can let me know a source for Mobil Delvax MX 15-40 in mumbai, that would be great too, but I doubt its still available anywhere.

So please recommend an oil which is better than the Servo's 15W-40, I plan to keep changing the oil every 5 to 6 thousand kilometers anyway.

Thanks

[hserus]

Originally Posted by humyum

Hi Guys, need advice on buying a good 15W40 Diesel engine oil for my Swift Diesel which has run 1 lakh 58 thousand km till now

I tried synthetic Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 at 1 lakh 50 thousand km and things went down from then.

https://www.mobil.com/english-tr/com...lvac-xhp-15w40

This should fit the bill if you want a better grade of mineral.

Alternatively you can try this MGDO from Mobil - Mobil Super MGDO 15W-40 https://www.flybhp.com/mobil-super-mgdo-15w-40.html or similar MGDO from Shell and Castrol.

[Rohan24]

Originally Posted by scorpian

@Rohan24
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When i bought a preowned sx4 wanted to do the same, but i was not sure and so till date i have refrained. Refrained because in the pursuit for better engine i may end up doing more harm then good. So for a couple of oil changes i will replace oil at 5k in the hope that in case any sludge build up is there would clear to at-least some extent. Post that i would use an engine flush for the next 2/3 oil changes and then go for ceratec.
If you are unsure of what sludge your engine might me carrying please don't use ceratec, do a couple oil changes at quicker intervals, you can use an engine flush if you wish too. Ceratec with engine sludge is going to cause havoc.
Just my 2 paise.

Thanks, mate. Will do the same. Just cancelled my order for Ceratec
Will go ahead with engine flush this time and just switch to Synthetic. Will see how the used engine oil looks in the next oil change and make a decision.

[comfortablynumb]

Originally Posted by humyum

Hi Guys, need advice on buying a good 15W40 Diesel engine oil for my Swift Diesel which has run 1 lakh 58 thousand km till now

I've heard good things about these 2 oils, on and off the forum, but no personal experience. Should be easily available too:

Shell Helix HX5 Diesel: 15W-40, API CH-4

Shell Rimula R4: 15W-40, API CI-4

Rimula R4 might be more expensive than HX5 Diesel, as it's a "heavy duty engine oil" as per the Shell website.

Cheers,
Vikram