ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

hserus · 14th May 2019, 12:06

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Originally Posted by Turbanator

Need suggestions for Endeavour, done 97 K, always serviced at FORD using their recommended oil. Are there some better options available

The same oil for Endeavour as for the Figo etc. Ford WSS-M2C-913C/D. Mobil Super 3000 X1, or a good A5B5 like Idemitsu, or Amsoil Signature Series 5w30 if you can bear the cost of buying nearly 7 litres of that for a single oil fill.

Turbanator · 14th May 2019, 12:12

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Originally Posted by hserus

The same oil for Endeavour as for the Figo etc. Ford WSS-M2C-913C/D. Mobil Super 3000 X1, or a good A5B5 like Idemitsu, or Amsoil Signature Series 5w30 if you can bear the cost of buying nearly 7 litres of that for a single oil fill.

Thanks, Amsoil Signature Series 5w30- is this what you will recommend if I can pay? Any links to buy online.

hserus · 14th May 2019, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Turbanator

Thanks, Amsoil Signature Series 5w30- is this what you will recommend if I can pay? Any links to buy online.

Amazon has it but if you have prime they will try to ship it by air and that fails as airlines won't accept flammable liquids.

Which city are you in? I will try to find the nearest distributor and let you know.

Turbanator · 14th May 2019, 12:34

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Originally Posted by hserus

Amazon has it but if you have prime they will try to ship it by air and that fails as airlines won't accept flammable liquids.

Which city are you in? I will try to find the nearest distributor and let you know.

Thanks, I am OK with anyone in Gurgaon/ Chandigarh or Ludhiana. Also, can this be used on the LC-200? Previously I tried the Motul 5W40.

hserus · 14th May 2019, 13:11

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Originally Posted by Turbanator

Thanks, I am OK with anyone in Gurgaon/ Chandigarh or Ludhiana. Also, can this be used on the LC-200? Previously I tried the Motul 5W40.

It seems to be a 5w30 a5/b5 for the LC as well if so it should work fine. What does your manual specify?

Turbanator · 14th May 2019, 13:23

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Originally Posted by hserus

It seems to be a 5w30 a5/b5 for the LC as well if so it should work fine. What does your manual specify?

It says API CF4 or CF - both obsolete and also mentions - ACEA B1 for which I find the reference at Amsoil

https://www.amsoil.com/international...ature/g290.pdf

hserus · 14th May 2019, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Turbanator

It says API CF4 or CF - both obsolete and also mentions - ACEA B1 for which I find the reference at Amsoil

A1/B1 is superseded by A5/B5 so the amsoil signature series should be OK.

As they're Ok with CF4 you can also consider the 5w40 turbo truck CK4 from Amsoil.

They apparently have three distributors in your area - Delhi, Gurgaon and Jalandhar. I will get details and update this thread.

hserus · 14th May 2019, 18:20

+91 95555 57736 / Jatin, Extreme Lubricants is the Delhi distributor for Amsoil. You can contact him for despatch of oils to nearby cities.

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Originally Posted by hserus

A1/B1 is superseded by A5/B5 so the amsoil signature series should be OK.

As they're Ok with CF4 you can also consider the 5w40 turbo truck CK4 from Amsoil.

They apparently have three distributors in your area - Delhi, Gurgaon and Jalandhar. I will get details and update this thread.

Turbanator · 14th May 2019, 18:41

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Originally Posted by hserus

+91 95555 57736 / Jatin, Extreme Lubricants is the Delhi distributor for Amsoil. You can contact him for despatch of oils to nearby cities.

Thanks, I dropped the mail to Greaves and they have also given reference of this guy. Will be ordering, its around Rs 3000 for 3,78 Ltr (US Gallon) cheaper than Amazon

hserus · 14th May 2019, 18:53

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Originally Posted by Turbanator

Thanks, I dropped the mail to Greaves and they have also given reference of this guy. Will be ordering, its around Rs 3000 for 3,78 Ltr (US Gallon) cheaper than Amazon

Yes, I got his number from Bhuvan Aneja at Greaves.

Turbanator · 15th May 2019, 11:31

For Diesel Engines, anyone looking for Amsoil, they have different product

Amsoil Signature series 5W-30 Diesel Oil ( DHDQT)

Brochure enclosed. This is what Greaves have recommended for Toyota LC. I guess it should work on Ford Endeavour as well.

The one posted earlier (Amsoil Signature Series 5w30) is recommended mostly for Gasoline engines!

Apparently, Greaves officially sells directly via Amazon, so no harm in ordering directly.

hserus · 15th May 2019, 11:34

ACEA a5/b5 is a dual use oil for petrol and light duty diesel engines. And it's what your manual recommends.

You can use a heavy duty diesel engine oil like the 5w30 one you specified and I'm glad that's finally in India but it isn't strictly necessary for the typical SUV or Sedan that doesn't specifically ask for it.

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Originally Posted by Turbanator

For Diesel Engines, anyone looking for Amsoil, they have different product

Amsoil Signature series 5W-30 Diesel Oil ( DHDQT)

Brochure enclosed. This is what Greaves have recommended for Toyota LC. I guess it should work on Ford Endeavour as well.

The one posted earlier (Amsoil Signature Series 5w30) is recommended mostly for Gasoline engines!

narayanang76 · 18th May 2019, 11:18

Looking for some advice for better synthetic oil for my 2010 December model Scorpio Sle. It has run 90K kms. Currently running on fully synthetic oil from 65k km service onwards, last 25k kms or so.

I am really happy going with synthetic oil, engine feels much planted, with reduced vibration and noise. Last engine oil change was done at Bosch service center and they have used Bosch Synergy 100% synthetic engine oil. Grade SM/CF 5W 40.

Recently I got an advise to go for Mobil 1 0W-40 fully synthetic oil.

I was also told by someone else, to try Shell Helix HX8 5W-30 oil.

Want to get some advice, if these are better oils, and if there are other any better oil I can go for other than these.

Experienced TBhpians, please advise.

Regards
Narayanang76

hserus · 18th May 2019, 11:23

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Originally Posted by narayanang76

Looking for some advice for better synthetic oil for my 2010 December model Scorpio Sle. It has run 90K kms. Currently running on fully synthetic oil from 65k km service onwards, last 25k kms or so.

Scorpios need api ch4 and above oil so api cf isn't an option as such.

Get say shell rimula r4 or rimula t5 or Valvoline or many other oils (HP Milcy Turbotech etc) marked API CI4 or CI4+

If you want synthetic there's Mobil Delvac 1 (CI4+) or Amsoil 5w40 turbo truck (API CK4). I've used Amsoil over the past year and am very happy with it, but it's expensive and will cost you about Rs 2500 for 3.7 litres.

narayanang76 · 18th May 2019, 11:52

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Originally Posted by hserus

Scorpios need api ch4 and above oil so api cf isn't an option as such.

Get say shell rimula r4 or rimula t5 or Valvoline or many other oils (HP Milcy Turbotech etc) marked API CI4 or CI4+

If you want synthetic there's Mobil Delvac 1 (CI4+) or Amsoil 5w40 turbo truck (API CK4). I've used Amsoil over the past year and am very happy with it, but it's expensive and will cost you about Rs 2500 for 3.7 litres.

Thanks for a very quick response.

I am looking for fully synthetic oil. So my current synthetic oil is also not the right oil since it's CF?

When I just looked up these 2 oils on Amazon, both Mobil Delvac 1 and Amsoil 5w40 is appearing as NOT fit for Mahindra Scorpio engines. Not sure why?

At the same time, shell rimula r4 is coming as fit for Scorpio.

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narayanang76 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KA 53/KL 9 Posts: 451 Thanked: 836 Times View My Garage	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil Looking for some advice for better synthetic oil for my 2010 December model Scorpio Sle. It has run 90K kms. Currently running on fully synthetic oil from 65k km service onwards, last 25k kms or so. I am really happy going with synthetic oil, engine feels much planted, with reduced vibration and noise. Last engine oil change was done at Bosch service center and they have used Bosch Synergy 100% synthetic engine oil. Grade SM/CF 5W 40. Recently I got an advise to go for Mobil 1 0W-40 fully synthetic oil. I was also told by someone else, to try Shell Helix HX8 5W-30 oil. Want to get some advice, if these are better oils, and if there are other any better oil I can go for other than these. Experienced TBhpians, please advise. Regards Narayanang76 Last edited by narayanang76 : 18th May 2019 at 11:20.
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