ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

balenopower · 27th February 2008, 15:47

Ok guys just tried the Petronas 5w40 oil.First reaction was very smooth and engine running a lot more silently.Wont say its way better than mobil one.But yes the difference is quite noticible.Paid 2400 for a 4 litre can.

Sideways · 27th February 2008, 15:51

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Originally Posted by cancerm

Hi Sideways
Just wanted to know is OWS Hybrid oil good to use in OHC 1.5 EXI type 2 & what grade does it come in & the cost the same too

Thanks in anticipation

The oil is very good, but I would recomend you use the OWS 5W50 instead. Why ? Because you really dont need it. It is made for high revving naturally aspirated cars and turbo charged cars where the oil really takes a beating. For regular street use a 5W50 grade is more than enough.

tsk1979 · 27th February 2008, 16:07

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Mobil1 5W50,OWS 5W50, Shell Helix Ultra 15W50, Castrol Edge 5W40 .
These are the fully synthetics available here.

@cancerm: OWS racing oil costs 4600 for 4 litres

You forgot Castrol Edge Sport, its about 30% more costwise as compared to the normal Castrol EDGE. How much better it is than the normal Edge, I don't know because I haven't used that either.
Apart from that Chevron, Valvoline and couple of other global companies have started selling fully synthetic oils in the market.

nitrous · 27th February 2008, 16:47

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

You forgot Castrol Edge Sport, its about 30% more costwise as compared to the normal Castrol EDGE.

I've only found the regular edge on the shelves. And its amazing VFM @ Rs.560 per litre.

moralfibre · 28th February 2008, 02:50

We've been recommending an engine flush before a switch to Synthetic oils. Mobil1 website says that an engine flush isn't required for a switch to Synthetic. Mobil1 site link.

GTO · 28th February 2008, 13:09

Exactly. Its not absolutely "required", but we "recommend" it.

Sankar · 28th February 2008, 13:40

Hi,

Is 50W monograde engine oil available in India? I checked couple of shops today and they say 50 mono isn't available from the company. I want to know whether this is true because 40W monograde is available and they have it.

I hope it's fine to ask this in this thread i didn't want to start another thread just to ask this question.

prabuddhadg · 28th February 2008, 13:52

So, what is the benefit of flushing? Does it extend the life of the new engine oil, or is it just that psychological peace that two types of oils are not getting mixed up in the engine?

DKG · 28th February 2008, 13:53

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Originally Posted by GTO

Additional recommended read :

If your car or bike has a wet clutch running off engine oil as my VFR does you need to make sure the API classification of the oil you buy meets the permissible classification by the manufacturer. If you use a classification higher as most modern oils have higher ratings your clutch would be rendered ineffective as the added slipperiness of the oil actually takes away some of the friction needed.

To give you an example my VFR requires an SG rated oil. Now if I use the readily available SL grade my clutch goes for a toss and gear changes become harsh. So you need to pay attention to these classifications especially if you plan on using synthetics on older cars/bikes which have wet clutches feeding off engine oil.

nitrous · 28th February 2008, 15:10

^^I completely agree with DKG.
@Sankar: U need that oil for a lawnmower?

Sankar · 28th February 2008, 15:19

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Originally Posted by nitrous

@Sankar: U need that oil for a lawnmower?

It's for the Bullet

saintsinner · 1st March 2008, 02:40

so, where do i get these oils in noida??

saintsinner · 1st March 2008, 19:05

bought 4 ltrs of castrol edge for 2k at hero motors, sec 16 Noida

Sankar · 2nd March 2008, 15:44

Looks like most of the synthetic oils aren't synthetic oils after all unless it's the really expensive ones.

In the topic below go to the "Base stocks" section. And am having my doubts of Castrol Edge being a 'pure' synthetic oil.

Lucky those who bought Motul 300V for 600 bucks per liter

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...must-read.html

jkdas · 2nd March 2008, 16:19

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Originally Posted by nitrous

^^I completely agree with DKG.
@Sankar: U need that oil for a lawnmower?

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Originally Posted by Sankar

It's for the Bullet

its another name

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Originally Posted by Sankar

Looks like most of the synthetic oils aren't synthetic oils after all unless it's the really expensive ones.

In the topic below go to the "Base stocks" section. And am having my doubts of Castrol Edge being a 'pure' synthetic oil.

Lucky those who bought Motul 300V for 600 bucks per liter

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...must-read.html

300V is for Bikes right? The one we bought?

27th February 2008, 15:47	#781
balenopower BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 957 Thanked: 465 Times View My Garage	Ok guys just tried the Petronas 5w40 oil.First reaction was very smooth and engine running a lot more silently.Wont say its way better than mobil one.But yes the difference is quite noticible.Paid 2400 for a 4 litre can.
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28th February 2008, 02:50	#785
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,443 Thanked: 13,956 Times	We've been recommending an engine flush before a switch to Synthetic oils. Mobil1 website says that an engine flush isn't required for a switch to Synthetic. Mobil1 site link.
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28th February 2008, 13:09	#786
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,497 Thanked: 300,309 Times View My Garage	Exactly. Its not absolutely "required", but we "recommend" it.
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28th February 2008, 13:40	#787
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,053 Times	Hi, Is 50W monograde engine oil available in India? I checked couple of shops today and they say 50 mono isn't available from the company. I want to know whether this is true because 40W monograde is available and they have it. I hope it's fine to ask this in this thread i didn't want to start another thread just to ask this question.
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28th February 2008, 13:52	#788
prabuddhadg BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 812 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	So, what is the benefit of flushing? Does it extend the life of the new engine oil, or is it just that psychological peace that two types of oils are not getting mixed up in the engine?
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28th February 2008, 15:10	#790
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	^^I completely agree with DKG. @Sankar: U need that oil for a lawnmower?
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saintsinner BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 612 Thanked: 11 Times	so, where do i get these oils in noida??
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1st March 2008, 19:05	#793
saintsinner BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 612 Thanked: 11 Times	bought 4 ltrs of castrol edge for 2k at hero motors, sec 16 Noida
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2nd March 2008, 15:44	#794
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,053 Times	Looks like most of the synthetic oils aren't synthetic oils after all unless it's the really expensive ones. In the topic below go to the "Base stocks" section. And am having my doubts of Castrol Edge being a 'pure' synthetic oil. Lucky those who bought Motul 300V for 600 bucks per liter http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...must-read.html
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