ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

[Gurkha]

Sludge is everything to do with engine design and nothing to do with oil per se. Notable sludgemeisters are the VW turbo engine used in Skoda Petrol RS and other VW engine as well. Also few Toyotas suffered from this malady but that was fixed soon. Also in cases like this, synthetic oil is the norm and regular oil changes the only way to survive.

[Raccoon]

Engine design yes, definitely, but how do you say it has nothing to do with the oil?!? Thats why the detergents are there... some have more, some have less... and will be able to resist sludge formation to a lesser extent.

[Atlblkz06]

Originally Posted by Gurkha

Sludge is everything to do with engine design and nothing to do with oil per se.

I think your comment is misleading. Oil has a lot to do with sludge. Hell oil IS sludge in some cases!

Oil sludge or black sludge is a solid or gel in motor oil caused by the oil gelling or solidifying, usually at temperatures lower than 100 degrees Celsius. Sludge is usually caused by the presence of water in the oil, and can accumulate with use. Ways to minimize sludge production and accumulation include performing frequent oil changes, using synthetic oil, and following the manufacturer's engine maintenance routine.
(For some reason I'm unable to unbold this text...not kidding!)

(Disclaimer: Wikipedia is NOT always correct. It's just some guy's pinion who took the time to make a detailed post)

[yatinchoubal]

Guys, M thinkin of using Petronas S, in my santro. But however, I have a confusion. During my next oil change, if I use Mobil 1, would that be a problem.
Would using different brands and grade, would coz a problem?

[Raccoon]

Shouldn't cause a major problem. But when you mix different brands, one never knows how "compatable" there are. So the safest thing is not to mix... and if you do, better not to do it often!

Unless you've already read in another thread - if you keen on going fully synth, you could consider Cheveron. Seems they have a fantastic deal on fully synth. Else there is other stuff that Gurkha suggests like Delo 400, etc.

[yatinchoubal]

Originally Posted by Raccoon

Shouldn't cause a major problem. But when you mix different brands, one never knows how "compatable" there are. So the safest thing is not to mix... and if you do, better not to do it often!

Unless you've already read in another thread - if you keen on going fully synth, you could consider Cheveron. Seems they have a fantastic deal on fully synth. Else there is other stuff that Gurkha suggests like Delo 400, etc.

The problem is availabilty of the syth oils in pune. Mobil 1 is available only at nanapeth. Found a mechanic Tune up plus in Baner, who keeps Petronas S. And trust me there is a huge price diff with almost same performance when it comes to a 1.1 - 1.3 engine car.
Petronas S 1 litre comes around 650, and Mobil 1 goes to 1000 bucks.

Do we get Delo400 or Cheveron in Pune. (I had tried searching for valvoline too, but nobody keeps it)

[Raccoon]

For Delo and other Cheveron products, please find their website, select location India, and write to them. They seem very responsive. I was told not to worry about availability, as they will arrange to deliver the stuff to your place.

I'm sure you can can get Valvoline the same way. If they are intrested in selling, they will tell you where to get it or home deliver. However, I believe I have seen Valvoline products in Nana Peth...


Check the exclusive Delo site also -

Delo: Engine Oil

[vikram18]

Originally Posted by yatinchoubal

Guys, M thinkin of using Petronas S, in my santro. But however, I have a confusion. During my next oil change, if I use Mobil 1, would that be a problem.
Would using different brands and grade, would coz a problem?

I don't think it would cause a major problem. In any case, if you're happy with a lower priced brand, providing equal performance, why would you want to shift back to the more expensive brand anyway? I have been using Petronas Syntium in my Civic since my first 10K oil change to synthetic and I'm absolutely satisfied.

In Pune, a lot of brands are not available, but you can always pick up a can from Mumbai, or even ask someone to pick one up for you. I'm sure a lot of your friends, relatives, you yourself and a host of helpful T-Bhpians do Pune-Mumbai quite regularly.

You can perform a flush during your oil change. That should make things even easier.

[rb2399]

Originally Posted by yatinchoubal

The problem is availabilty of the syth oils in pune. Mobil 1 is available only at nanapeth. Found a mechanic Tune up plus in Baner, who keeps Petronas S. And trust me there is a huge price diff with almost same performance when it comes to a 1.1 - 1.3 engine car.
Petronas S 1 litre comes around 650, and Mobil 1 goes to 1000 bucks.

Do we get Delo400 or Cheveron in Pune. (I had tried searching for valvoline too, but nobody keeps it)

Yatin,
talk to a person named Anand (+91 9822408221) who is the sales rep. for Chevron in Pune.Give him my ref (ROhit).I have been using Delo-400 in my Safari 2.2 for past one year.You can get Havoline for your petrol car as well.

[greenhorn]

the contact info appears to be listed here
Asia Pacific: Local Information: India

[abhibh]

Guys I am thinking of shifting from mineral to semi synthetic (mineral synthetic). Is 15W40 good enough for my Alto ?

Also i was looking at Castrol Magnatec and they say that their oil "Uses Synthetic Technology". Is it same as Synthetic Blend ? Whats the cost of Magnatec ?

[Raccoon]

Nopes, Synthetic Technology does not mean synthetic blend or semi-synthetic. Intrestingly, tho Castrol Magnatec says its Synthetic technology, nowhere do they mention its even semi-synthetic. In any case Castrol always gives least technical details about its products, and maximum marketing hype.

And as I'v been saying repeatedly - semi synthetic does not really mean much unless the manufacturers mentions the percentage of synthetic component. So try not to base your buying decision on a label that says semi-synthetic! And dont get carried away by marketing gymmics!!

Vaguely remember that the current price is around Rs. 1,200 - 1,400 for 3 litre can.

[yatinchoubal]

Originally Posted by rb2399

Yatin,
talk to a person named Anand (+91 9822408221) who is the sales rep. for Chevron in Pune.Give him my ref (ROhit).I have been using Delo-400 in my Safari 2.2 for past one year.You can get Havoline for your petrol car as well.

Thanks buddy, will surely check up with him.

[lohithrao]

Raccon, How are Delo and Cheveron when compared to Mobil..Shell etc? Oil change is due and Mobil is pretty expensive

[Raccoon]

^^^Delo is a Cheveron product! As for how they compare with Mobil, Gurkha would be a better person to ask that quetion to. Also you could search for his posts about Delo and other Cheveron products.