ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

nitrous · 12th January 2010, 10:02

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Originally Posted by sonirohit

a somewhat unrelated question - I am getting mobil 1 from a slightly older stock, I think packed in late 2008 for approx 600/litre. My question is do the engine oils have a best before date? Is it safe to use a 1.5 yrs old stock of oil?

Go ahead and get it. Excellent pricing as long as its Mobil1 and not Mobil synt S.
What grade is it?

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Originally Posted by FM

i changed from mineral oil to Castrol GTX Magnatec 5w40 in the Zen today

Must be 10W40.
Congrats, you've been magnatec'd!

Sam.k · 12th January 2010, 13:35

My 2003 Santro has done 60K Kms.I remember the last oil change was at 52K Kms with a Mineral oil(servo/MAK i guess).Now i want to switch to Semi-synth oil since the engine is aging.Which brand and grade do you recommend?Most of my drive is within city limits with an occasional long drive.

The clutch too is pretty hard with a strained noise while engaging the clutch..is that a indication for clutch replacement??

rkguru · 12th January 2010, 15:24

The noise while engaging the clutch is due to faulty throw out bearing.
Check the clutch cable for hard feeling clutch first.

Sudipto-S-Team · 12th January 2010, 16:56

I was using Mobil 1 for quite some time in my Esteem that has done 60k plus now. Recently I changed my oil and got Castrol's Edge, instead of Mobil 1.

Edge is simply superb. I am hooked. The car is silky smooth now. Driving it never felt so good.

amidoc · 12th January 2010, 21:06

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Originally Posted by Sudipto-S-Team

I was using Mobil 1 for quite some time in my Esteem that has done 60k plus now. Recently I changed my oil and got Castrol's Edge, instead of Mobil 1.

Edge is simply superb. I am hooked. The car is silky smooth now. Driving it never felt so good.

hi with regard to the castrol edge, is it a synthetic or mineral oil. What is the viscosity rating of the oil.

HIGHNOON · 15th January 2010, 20:34

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Originally Posted by mdesai_1981

yesterday i bought a idemtsu enigine oil specially formulated for maruti SX4 and grand vitara (as was written on the box) it was priced at rs.1090 for 5lts can. well the specification was 5w-30 API-SJ . it is a very smooth engine oil as i had put it in my friends SX4- it runs very very smooth and the engine is super responsive. also this NOT A FULLY SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL it is just a smei synthetic enigine oil.
i believe one should stick to this grade oil as the new VVT engine needs a thin oil for optimum performance.
well for now idemitsu engine oils are manufactured by savita chemicals, india.

Hi Mihir,
Isnt it better to stick with Castrol magntaec 10w-40 ( API-SM ) or a synthetic blend like Valvoline durablend.API-SL ?
Regds

gpa · 18th January 2010, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Gansan

Thereafter I will change the oil once in six months, and oil+Filter every twelve months.

Whenever you change the oil, it is best that you change the oil filter too. At ~Rs. 80 for the Alto oil filter, it is easy on the wallet too. Sticking to the old oil filter might lead to impurities that are stuck in the old filter entering the engine.

Gansan · 18th January 2010, 11:00

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Originally Posted by gpa

Whenever you change the oil, it is best that you change the oil filter too. At ~Rs. 80 for the Alto oil filter, it is easy on the wallet too. Sticking to the old oil filter might lead to impurities that are stuck in the old filter entering the engine.

As my car will have done only about 3000 KM in six months, I feel changing the filter once a year should not matter. Honda recommends such an oil change cycle, I think. Moreover I intend to do the intervening oil change in the Shell station, and they neither have nor do the filter change.

HIGHNOON · 18th January 2010, 17:46

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Originally Posted by Gansan

As my car will have done only about 3000 KM in six months, I feel changing the filter once a year should not matter. Honda recommends such an oil change cycle, I think. Moreover I intend to do the intervening oil change in the Shell station, and they neither have nor do the filter change.

At your low usage you may simply change the filter @ 6 months and keep the oil for 1 yr.

Usually engine oil itself would not deteriorate to that extent considering the low usage, the additives do. But given a 6000 km annual run you can bet the oil would be as good at the year end.
By changing the filter you would actually enhance the longevity of oil as all the trapped dirt, carbon accumulated over 6 months will be removed from the engine.

indianvirus · 21st January 2010, 00:43

I may sound stupid but does anyone know about a synthetic oil from shell (priced at Rs. 900/liter)? How is the performance? My oil change interval is nearing so need to know. Sorry if it is already posted earlier in the thread.

sdp1975 · 1st February 2010, 13:25

Selenia WR 5W-40 costs 650/- per litre. THis is used on the Linea/Punto MJD, and is synthetic based oil.

Mobil 1 costs around 950/-. Why such a large price difference , is it due to the Mobil branding ? How much do other synthetic based oil cost roughly?

chetan5678 · 1st February 2010, 15:05

Hello Friends,
I recently found a shell oil distributor in bangalore,
One of my friend purchased SHELL HX5 15W 40 3 LTR CAN for Rs 515.
THE ADDRESS IS
S.S DISTRIBUTORS
GOKULAM,NO 3,3RD CROSS,PUTTENHALLI MAIN ROAD,
6 TH PHASE,J.P.NAGAR,
BANGALORE -78
CONTACT PERSON:MR SAKET MAHESHWARI
PHONE NOS:OFF:22459990,22459991,
MOBILE:9964388888.
He stocks almost all oils available in shell,except HX7,which is supposed to come to Bangalore in 3 months,hope this will be for some help for t bhp friends.thanks

chetan5678 · 1st February 2010, 15:18

Hi again,
I Forgot to mention that the nearest landmark for this distributor is,
INCHARA RESTAURANT IN J P NAGAR,once you are there give him a call
he will guide you.thanks

Seeler_Rebeiro · 1st February 2010, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by chetan5678

Hello Friends,
I recently found a shell oil distributor in bangalore,
One of my friend purchased SHELL HX5 15W 40 3 LTR CAN for Rs 515.
THE ADDRESS IS
S.S DISTRIBUTORS
GOKULAM,NO 3,3RD CROSS,PUTTENHALLI MAIN ROAD,
6 TH PHASE,J.P.NAGAR,
BANGALORE -78
CONTACT PERSON:MR SAKET MAHESHWARI
PHONE NOS:OFF:22459990,22459991,
MOBILE:9964388888.
He stocks almost all oils available in shell,except HX7,which is supposed to come to Bangalore in 3 months,hope this will be for some help for t bhp friends.thanks

I must have got ripped off. I paid 900Rs for 4 litres can in Mumbai. But on the can I saw a MRP of 919 Rs. How can there be so much difference.

lohithrao · 1st February 2010, 16:10

I bought shell at one of the shell pump few months back for 900 bucks, guess now on will go to the dealer instead

shell helix utra costs about 2900 at the dealer...

btw changed to celina(hope i spelled right) it feels a bit better then mobil...

Quote:

Originally Posted by chetan5678

Hello Friends,
I recently found a shell oil distributor in bangalore,
One of my friend purchased SHELL HX5 15W 40 3 LTR CAN for Rs 515.
THE ADDRESS IS
S.S DISTRIBUTORS
GOKULAM,NO 3,3RD CROSS,PUTTENHALLI MAIN ROAD,
6 TH PHASE,J.P.NAGAR,
BANGALORE -78
CONTACT PERSON:MR SAKET MAHESHWARI
PHONE NOS:OFF:22459990,22459991,
MOBILE:9964388888.
He stocks almost all oils available in shell,except HX7,which is supposed to come to Bangalore in 3 months,hope this will be for some help for t bhp friends.thanks

12th January 2010, 13:35	#2357
Sam.k BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TN-37 Posts: 193 Thanked: 110 Times	Semi-Synth OIl for Santro!! My 2003 Santro has done 60K Kms.I remember the last oil change was at 52K Kms with a Mineral oil(servo/MAK i guess).Now i want to switch to Semi-synth oil since the engine is aging.Which brand and grade do you recommend?Most of my drive is within city limits with an occasional long drive. The clutch too is pretty hard with a strained noise while engaging the clutch..is that a indication for clutch replacement??
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12th January 2010, 15:24	#2358
rkguru BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 43 Thanked: 3 Times	The noise while engaging the clutch is due to faulty throw out bearing. Check the clutch cable for hard feeling clutch first.
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12th January 2010, 16:56	#2359
Sudipto-S-Team Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 1,320 Thanked: 290 Times View My Garage	I was using Mobil 1 for quite some time in my Esteem that has done 60k plus now. Recently I changed my oil and got Castrol's Edge, instead of Mobil 1. Edge is simply superb. I am hooked. The car is silky smooth now. Driving it never felt so good.
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21st January 2010, 00:43	#2365
indianvirus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vadodara Posts: 207 Thanked: 122 Times	I may sound stupid but does anyone know about a synthetic oil from shell (priced at Rs. 900/liter)? How is the performance? My oil change interval is nearing so need to know. Sorry if it is already posted earlier in the thread.
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1st February 2010, 13:25	#2366
sdp1975 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,700 Thanked: 1,273 Times View My Garage	pricing of Synthetic oils Selenia WR 5W-40 costs 650/- per litre. THis is used on the Linea/Punto MJD, and is synthetic based oil. Mobil 1 costs around 950/-. Why such a large price difference , is it due to the Mobil branding ? How much do other synthetic based oil cost roughly?
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1st February 2010, 15:05	#2367
chetan5678 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 50 Thanked: 16 Times	Shell Oil Distributor Hello Friends, I recently found a shell oil distributor in bangalore, One of my friend purchased SHELL HX5 15W 40 3 LTR CAN for Rs 515. THE ADDRESS IS S.S DISTRIBUTORS GOKULAM,NO 3,3RD CROSS,PUTTENHALLI MAIN ROAD, 6 TH PHASE,J.P.NAGAR, BANGALORE -78 CONTACT PERSON:MR SAKET MAHESHWARI PHONE NOS:OFF:22459990,22459991, MOBILE:9964388888. He stocks almost all oils available in shell,except HX7,which is supposed to come to Bangalore in 3 months,hope this will be for some help for t bhp friends.thanks
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1st February 2010, 15:18	#2368
chetan5678 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 50 Thanked: 16 Times	shell oil Hi again, I Forgot to mention that the nearest landmark for this distributor is, INCHARA RESTAURANT IN J P NAGAR,once you are there give him a call he will guide you.thanks
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