ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

rohan_fonseca · 4th March 2010, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

5W40 will give you a bit more power, FE and I think the accord's V6 engine will take Xw40. I wouldn't suggest xW30 with the mumbai summer.

Your options:
Mobil Synt S - 5W40
OWS 5W40
Shell Helix Ultra 5W40
Castrol EDGE 5W40

Can you check your owner's manual and revert?

Any ideas of the current prices in your city?

nitrous · 4th March 2010, 22:19

750/L for the Shell Helix ultra ( I remember paying 650 months back)
Mobil 1 5W50 ~800-850/L
Castrol Edge and Mobil Synt S should be cheaper.

My last oil change with the shell cost only 2000+

Akshay1234 · 4th March 2010, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

750/L for the Shell Helix ultra ( I remember paying 650 months back)
Mobil 1 5W50 ~800-850/L
Castrol Edge and Mobil Synt S should be cheaper.

My last oil change with the shell cost only 2000+

im gettin 5w50 for 650 a litre. might be able to bring them down to 625. but will 5w40 make such a big difference in power? because i dont know of any 5w40 synthetic. there is an ows `5w40 which costs 300 per litre more than mobil1.

degenr8 · 8th March 2010, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohan_fonseca

Any ideas of the current prices in your city?

At Bangalore
Castrol Edge - 950 for 1L
Mobil 1 - 820 for 1L
Shell Ultra -750 for 1L

Twiny · 17th March 2010, 15:15

My NHC is due for oil change.
In the last 2 oil changes, I had put Synthetic oil. I wanted to know, is there any issue in replacing now with the normal oil. I definitely experienced the smoothness in engine performance, but now the cost also matters (~2800/- vs ~900/-) Is this switching advisable?

Jaggu · 17th March 2010, 17:48

Yeah do a complete drain and downgrade, if unavoidable. Go with a good semi-synthetic oil from any of the reputed brands.

mdesai_1981 · 17th March 2010, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay1234

im gettin 5w50 for 650 a litre. might be able to bring them down to 625. but will 5w40 make such a big difference in power? because i dont know of any 5w40 synthetic. there is an ows `5w40 which costs 300 per litre more than mobil1.

you will get 5w-40 mobil 1 engine oil in mumbai at city motors in opera house i have bought from them and it is roughly for 2800rs for 4 ltrs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiny

My NHC is due for oil change.
In the last 2 oil changes, I had put Synthetic oil. I wanted to know, is there any issue in replacing now with the normal oil. I definitely experienced the smoothness in engine performance, but now the cost also matters (~2800/- vs ~900/-) Is this switching advisable?

i suggest you switch over to idemitsu engine oil. it is really best for HONDA engines and is cheap too. 750~800rs for 3.6 ltrs at HONDA A.S.S.
the grade is 10w-30. or go for any 10w-30 engine oil with api-sm standard as honda recommends this grade for all their cars except honda accord and CRV.

mdesai_1981 · 17th March 2010, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay1234

ok guys i dont know too much about oils. i need suggestions on what oil to buy for my accord v6. im already using mobil1 supersynth 5w50 in my getz and that is pretty good but i dont know if it will be suitable for the accord. not stuck on any particular brand.

HONDA A.S.S. uses 0W-30 fully synthetic engine oil from IDEMITSUI which is not available outside. it is the best engine oil for any HONDA vehicle as i have been using it in mumbai for past 3 months without any problem. stick to this engine oil as
1. it will cost 2900rs. for your accord
2. very very good engine oil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

5W40 will give you a bit more power, FE and I think the accord's V6 engine will take Xw40. I wouldn't suggest xW30 with the mumbai summer.

Your options:
Mobil Synt S - 5W40
OWS 5W40
Shell Helix Ultra 5W40
Castrol EDGE 5W40

Can you check your owner's manual and revert?

nitrous i understand what you are trying to say. i had the same opinion about 0w-30 engine oil from idemitsui for honda accord but trust me i have a new honda accord and i have a NHC. i have been using this oil and it is too good. it is compatible with indian weather. infact the 0w-40 mobil1 engine oil that i bought from US was not compatible with our kind of climate i had major problems with it.
i dunno how but these oils are new formulation as even maruti SX4 using 5w-30 engine oil from servo or idemitsu(API-SJ)!!
and shell has come up with this 5w-30 shell ultra advance engine oil.
i think this is something to do with fuel economy and new technology in engine oils!

Twiny · 17th March 2010, 19:26

Thanks Jaggu, mdesai_1981

Honda *** in Kochi says if Synthetic oil, replace at 10000km and ASS@Bangalore says irrespective of Synthetic/Stock, replace @5000 for all new CITYs
I feel if not 10000, we can extend it to 7000 and irrespective of Kms every 6months.

Akshay1234 · 17th March 2010, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdesai_1981

you will get 5w-40 mobil 1 engine oil in mumbai at city motors in opera house i have bought from them and it is roughly for 2800rs for 4 ltrs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdesai_1981

HONDA A.S.S. uses 0W-30 fully synthetic engine oil from IDEMITSUI which is not available outside. it is the best engine oil for any HONDA vehicle as i have been using it in mumbai for past 3 months without any problem. stick to this engine oil as
1. it will cost 2900rs. for your accord
2. very very good engine oil.

i went to city motors today and picked up 5 litres of mobil1 supersyn 5w50.

arya honda told me it would cost 1000 per litre and my car needs 5. so i paid 3250 today.

pjbiju · 21st March 2010, 10:29

Does anyone know how much Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 cost in Pune per litre? Is that available at places other than Shell petrol pumps? Any retail outlet close to Aundh?

-Biju

Raccoon · 21st March 2010, 15:35

^^^I have seen Shell synth oils at an auto spare/accessories shop almost next to Kulkarni Petrol bunk at the begining of Laxmi Rd. Should also be available at Aru Oil Traders at the begining of Paud Rd.

pjbiju · 21st March 2010, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raccoon

^^^I have seen Shell synth oils at an auto spare/accessories shop almost next to Kulkarni Petrol bunk at the begining of Laxmi Rd. Should also be available at Aru Oil Traders at the begining of Paud Rd.

Thanks Raccoon. I also got the names of a few other shops from the earlier posts of yours, R2D2, amit etc. I will see what I can get. If not, I will try to get Mobil Super XHP 10W40 (I hope I will be able to get it directly from Raka oil) for my Swift and then probably change it every 6 months instead of the 1 year interval.

R2D2 · 21st March 2010, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjbiju

Does anyone know how much Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 cost in Pune per litre? Is that available at places other than Shell petrol pumps? Any retail outlet close to Aundh?

-Biju

Never buy oils at Shell petrol stations. Best to buy it directly from the Shell distributor. I got a SHU 4 litre can from Heera Oil Corp. Near Adinath Shop Complex, Pune-satara Road, Swargate, Pune: 411037, Tel. No.24262473.

It was Rs 2750 last year. So you may want to call to check the latest prices.

Cheers!

PS - Heera is the Shell Distributor. In fact Shell's India office pointed me to them.

Gansan · 21st March 2010, 18:16

Buy it from an absolutely reliable dealer. Else buy it from the Shell pump and don't mind the MRP. Better be safe than sorry!

4th March 2010, 22:19	#2417
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	750/L for the Shell Helix ultra ( I remember paying 650 months back) Mobil 1 5W50 ~800-850/L Castrol Edge and Mobil Synt S should be cheaper. My last oil change with the shell cost only 2000+
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17th March 2010, 15:15	#2420
Twiny BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cochin-Bangalore Posts: 311 Thanked: 50 Times View My Garage	My NHC is due for oil change. In the last 2 oil changes, I had put Synthetic oil. I wanted to know, is there any issue in replacing now with the normal oil. I definitely experienced the smoothness in engine performance, but now the cost also matters (~2800/- vs ~900/-) Is this switching advisable?
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17th March 2010, 17:48	#2421
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,904 Times	Yeah do a complete drain and downgrade, if unavoidable. Go with a good semi-synthetic oil from any of the reputed brands.
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17th March 2010, 19:26	#2424
Twiny BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cochin-Bangalore Posts: 311 Thanked: 50 Times View My Garage	Thanks Jaggu, mdesai_1981 Honda *** in Kochi says if Synthetic oil, replace at 10000km and ASS@Bangalore says irrespective of Synthetic/Stock, replace @5000 for all new CITYs I feel if not 10000, we can extend it to 7000 and irrespective of Kms every 6months.
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21st March 2010, 10:29	#2426
pjbiju Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,357 Thanked: 1,091 Times	Cost of Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 in Pune Does anyone know how much Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 cost in Pune per litre? Is that available at places other than Shell petrol pumps? Any retail outlet close to Aundh? -Biju
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21st March 2010, 15:35	#2427
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^I have seen Shell synth oils at an auto spare/accessories shop almost next to Kulkarni Petrol bunk at the begining of Laxmi Rd. Should also be available at Aru Oil Traders at the begining of Paud Rd.
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21st March 2010, 18:16	#2430
Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,535 Thanked: 5,546 Times	Buy it from an absolutely reliable dealer. Else buy it from the Shell pump and don't mind the MRP. Better be safe than sorry!
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