First of all thanks all for your responses. It was really pleasing that people on TBHP are using Scooters as well
Some people thought (Like few my friends ) that its only for car lovers & users.
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Originally Posted by el lobo 6061 Sorry for hijacking the thread aniketi.
Today my moms Jan 1996 Kinetic Honda DX engine got siezed while doing 60 Kmph on Sion-Panvel highway. I was riding it from Chembur to Vashi. It has happened for the second time in its life span.
So my brother and parents are vying for the change of it to Activa. Today inquired for it and it costs Rs. 52,xxx in Vashi, Navi Mumbai.
Another thing, if I you need ready delivery than you can have the Activa for Rs. 63,xxx. That is Rs. 11,xxx for of the shelf delivery.
The waiting period given is 8 months with no fixed date. Talk about cars waiting period.
Aviator is good from safety point of view, but it has fiber body that's what the dealer said.
Tomorrow mine old school Honda will be operated upon for its engine seizure. |
Thanks for the info. Your kinetic must of seized due to shortage of oil i guess else its a very good bike. 11K more for immediate delivery of Activa is too much. I wont go for that though i need it urgently.
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Originally Posted by rameshnanda You are wrong. Access is equipped with the Telescopic front suspension. Another advantage of Access over Activa is that it is better powered and accelerates so well. |
Thanks for the providing useful info. I also feel Access is better balanced than activa, specially on turns.
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Originally Posted by antz.bin Buy the Activa eyes closed if you can bear the waiting period. In some cities, the Swift Diesel will have a shorter waiting period than the Activa.
The other option you have is buying a Honda Aviator instead of the Activa. It comes with the option of a Front Disc brake (which I feel should be opted in the interest of safety) and has Telescopic front shocks similar to Wego and Rodeo (which is lacking in both Activa and Mahindra Duro) which gives it better ride quality than its sibling, the Activa.
Because it is priced slightly more than the Activa, it might have a lower waiting period.
FE wise, it will be Activa / Aviator > Wego > Access > Rodeo/Duro/Flyte
All of the above are very good products in their own right. The service woes of HMSI are present but I think it is still pretty much manageable in Pune. |
Me & wife both dont like Aviator. Sorry ! As far as Mahindra goes, i still dont rely on them in 2 wheelers. They have bought the Kinetic which was pathetic in the end. I am suffering from that only.
I guess FE of Activa is not that great. It hardly gives 30+ in city.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Bean My new wego brought for my wife has clocked 7000 km in the past 6 months.
Speeds = 40-55 km/hr Fuel efficiency = 50-52kmpl when my wife drives
speeds = 55-80 km/hr Fuel efficiency = 40-45 kmpl when I drive
The fuel efficiency seems good, I don't know the efficiency of other scooters.
Only drawback being the smaller fuel tank
You should be considering Wego which is a new platform all together.
Better fuel efficiency, looks, comfort, off the shelf availability were the deal maker for me when I brought wego |
Thanks for useful info. I will chk Wego this weekend. Btw, whats the price of it on road? How much is the fuel tank? 5+ liters is ok for me as wife is not going to do long runs on that. Hardly 100 Kms in a week.
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Originally Posted by rameshnanda Access will be good choice. Its powerful and also has the suspension which is superior than Activa.
For your information, I own a Activa and not very much impressed with it. |
Thanks ... I also feel same. Activa is super over rated product.
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Originally Posted by heman_369 It is Wego or Access all the way. I own an Activa and from 5 yrs of ownership can say that it is a grossly overrated product. Battery problems, poor service and low mileage are some of the issues i am facing |
Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by Dolphin I was also in the same dilemma a couple of years back when I had to buy a scooter for my wife.
The scooters considered were the Access and the Activa. We test drove both the vehicles (my relatives and friends have
both these vehicles, so I have driven both many times). Finally, we ended up buying the Access.
Access is certainly more powerful than the Activa. It pulls ahead with ease so easily.
Access has got telescopic front suspension which the Activa doesn't have. One of the advantages of this is that Access doesn't have this floating effect the Activa produces as the speed increases.
The seat height from ground seems to be almost the same for both Access and Activa. The Activa looks bulkier and broader than the Access though.
I kind of remember seeing in the specifications that the weight of both these scooters are almost the same (am not sure though).
Access has better brakes compared to the Activa. I find the combo brakes introduced in one of the variants of the Activa useless.
In Bangalore city driving/traffic conditions our Access has been consistently returning a mileage of 35-38 kmpl. It has never returned above
38 kmpl as per my calculations. I think the Activa returns a better mileage than the Access.
It's been 2 years now that we bought our Access and it's done 9500 km till now. It's been a hassle free ownership experience till now.
Also, the waiting period for the Access is no less than the Activa.
Checkout the Wego too. With it's bigger wheels and telescopic front suspension, it may be more comfortable and a better handler than
the above 2 scooters. |
Thanks mate. It was really useful info from the horses mouth. I am sure you are enjoying your Access.
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Originally Posted by vnabhi I was in the same dilemma in May 2010, and I finally bought an Access for my daughter. The positives of the Access over the Activa are:- - Better ground clearance. Have never scraped a speed-breaker so far, unlike the Kinetic Honda that we have that gives us nightmares. I am told even the Activa has big time GC issues, and am not sure if they have improved in their newer model.
- Telescopic front shocks
- Better pickup
- Starts with push button even on cold winters (my daughter uses it. If it were me, I'd kick-start first time in the morning)
With 8200 kims on the odo, we have not had a single issue so far. The only thing we changed were the handle grip covers. We get an FE of 37 to 42 in Hyderabad city driving. The only gripe I have is that the hook for the shopping bag is far too low on the body, so whatever I hang on it lies nearly horizontal on the scooter floor, unlike in the Kinetic Honda. Another dampener is that the scooter needs to be on the central stand if it has to be kick-started: the stand otherwise fouls with the starter. And I don't like the lock position for the handle---one needs to press the key inwards and then turn, else you will unlock the seat. Not a show stopper, but I don't find this intuitive.
The Activa, in my opinion, looks better than the Access--I mean the new model. Perhaps it has better FE, but I don't own one. I have driven my cousin's a couple of times though. No great shakes, if you ask me.
Both Activa and Access have poor headlights and not so good brakes---but hey, I've got pampered by cars for the past 2 decades, so take this with a pinch of salt. Perhaps this is a malaise with all scooters. I remember my Lamby scored far worse on these two factors.
While on this topic, I wanted to mention that the time has come for me to get another scooter---this time for my son. He rejected the Wego outright as he felt it looks like a smaller model, like the Scooty from the rear (I like it though). He was contemplating on the Activa, so that we have a different make at home. There is only an extra month of waiting for the Activa in Hyderabad---3 months instead of 2 months for the Access.
But soon after he TD'd his friend's new Activa, he decided to go for an Access. Main reason is the ground clearance. Soon after our exit gate, there is a speed-breaker which he scraped while riding doubles on the Activa. He took his sister's Access with the same person, and it cleared the hump neatly.
So now we are waiting for the second Suzuki Access---this time it is a white one compared to the existing black. |
Thanks a lot for the detailed info. It was really helpful indeed. I am now considering Access more than Activa. Will show all the inputs to the wife so that i can convince her in better manner.
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Originally Posted by DieselAddikt I own both Wego and Access. Both are used by my wife and me. The Wego gives almost 50kmpl where as Access gives a slightly less mileage of 46 to 48kmpl. Pick any one of them and you wont go wrong. Personally, I prefer Wego when I ride alone and Access when I have a pillion and that is basically because Access clearly is more powerful. But do keep in mind that Access has a jittery ride over rough surfaces and the braking is not that great at speeds above 60kmph. (In comparison to Wego and Activa)
Note: I used an Activa before buying Access and I was not happy with the service center. And yes, it had starting problems as well. Frankly, I don't understand why it has such a long waiting period ! |
Thanks a lot. Good that you own both bikes. Can you please tell me frankly which is better? I am looking for reliability, ride, handling, A$$ & FE. Your vote is important to me.
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Originally Posted by subscrive What is the height and weight of driver (srry to be personal - but needed for suggestion)?
For hefty person activa / access is good.
For light person pep+ is good.
Also you should take into consideration whether both the feet are flat on ground comfortably. This is important especially in rainy days.
Sometimes people go for overkill when its not needed - hence suggestion of pep+. |
My wife is 5.5. She can ride Activa or Access well. No problems in that area.
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Originally Posted by bullboy Activa has insane waiting periods coupled with pathetic attitude of sales people .This was only one reason when I walked out of a Honda showroom 5 year back and took an oath that i will never return.
In Tvm, activa waiting period is nearly 1 year depending on color choice and you are at the mercy of the dealer.
I would suggest you to check the Pleasure, I have one for nearly 5 years .The scoot is extremely nimble and have decent FE. Only con is the ride on bad roads.
It comes with old activa engine (102 cc) and is pretty reliable. I have skipped almost every service after routine service for one and a half year due to pathetic HH service quality.
One of my friend recently bought a Wego and the scoot feels pretty solid and is highly recommended, but i feel it might be slightly big for short ladies. |
We both somehow dont like pleasure. We feel it as a small bike for 2+1. We generally go sometime nearby on scooter with our 3 yr old daughter. Feel its small for double sit with child along.
Thanks again all for your responses. Waiting for more