30th November 2012, 11:36 | #16 | |
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Except for the Duke, all the other 3 show upwards of 145 indicated. Or maybe they just have better speedos. I am wondering whether to put a smaller rear sprocket on the Duke and make it also join this elite club. | |
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30th November 2012, 12:46 | #17 | |
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The NS might do 149 or even 150+....difference is the time it takes. The CBR nearly hits 150 in the 5th gear itself before hitting the rev-limiter (I've done 148 in 5th before hitting trucker traffic at 158 kph in 6th) and it will do 150 everytime you want it to. How easy does the 200 do 149 needs to be seen? | |
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The NS wasn't faster than the baby ceeber. All through my run on the closed stretch of road, I was behind by about a bike's length. This can also be because of my weight, which is on the higher side of 100, and the CBR rider was about 65 Kgs. The NS was filled to the brim during the run, the ceeber had just under 4 litres. However, still weighed about 15 kgs more at this time. The Duke 200 gets overtaken in the 5th gear though. Quote:
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The power difference and the delivery is quite different in the NS and you will enjoy it after the 220F, but I will definitely suggest you wait for the Duke 390 which is due in 4 months and according to rumours, should be priced at about 2 Lakhs! That will be a helluva ride! Quote:
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The metaphors are inspired by the Great Jeremy Clarkson! 149 Kmph definitely had some error, but I will like to point out that this was on a slightly sloping decline all through from 140 onwards and it takes some time getting there. If I was a little more brave and didnt weigh on the higher side of a quintal, the bike would have done 155 Kph, I do not have a shadow of doubt about that. As far as Bajaj mechanics in the city are concerned, I trust no one other than Auto Service, Banshankari. They are the best in business. I get it done from there, do check them out if you haven't already. Quote:
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The helmet was done up by me on a LS2 shell, which used to go well with my black P150, but not so much with this. I rarely go to Kolkata though, for most part, I am in Bangalore. Hope to catch up sometime. Quote:
In terms of power delivery, the CBR is more linear and the gearbox is way more slick, sometimes too slick. The R15 holds till redlining in 3rd gear and then loses it to the NS. The exhaust of the NS is quite meaty beyond 8K rpm, true that. Aural pleasure when compared to the Duke's exhaust. Speedo is definitely a bit optimistic, but I could easlily hold a CBR250 at bike's length all through the dash. Quote:
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One more thing to mention though is that the NS has a taller 6th gear than the CBR 250R's. Some more figures which I did not include in the review. Top speeds in each gear: 1st : 55 @ 10,300 RPM 2nd : 75 @ 10,300 RPM 3rd : 92 @ 10,000 RPM 4th : 114 @ 10,000 RPM 5th : 134 @ 10,000 RPM 6th : 149 @ 9700 RPM I will try and do a run with a Go Pro HD, till then I will have to let the figures talk. Thanks to all for the compliments! I would like to note that the speeds mentioned here, were achieved on a closed road with levelled tarmac. We had protective gear on all through the runs. Please do not try these speeds on public roads, obey traffic rules and speed limits. Cheers! Preetam Last edited by preetam_KORG : 30th November 2012 at 13:22. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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30th November 2012, 13:40 | #19 | |
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| Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS : Ownership Review, 2200 Kms Quote:
About taller gear- I have a doubt, as I remember my CBR doing 150 kph @ 9500 rpm. In fact another example is when I rode the CBR and the NS back to back- the NS does 115 in top gear @ 7500 rpm where the CBR does it at 7200 rpm. | |
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| Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS : Ownership Review, 2200 Kms Another small observation- pls do correct if am wrong, the NS does 70 @ 5000 rpm in top gear and the CBR does 80 at the same rpm. Amply clear that the gearing is slightly shorter to what you have said. Anyways- getting back to the review. Had kept it for reading at relaxed pace. Very very well written. And congrats on the ownership. |
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30th November 2012, 15:04 | #22 |
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| Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS : Ownership Review, 2200 Kms @Preetam I realise this is a theoretical argument (though I have ridden quite a lot with a test NS to know different), but my question is this: If the overall top end of the Duke 200 is the same as the 5th gear top speed of a 200NS, and If the Duke 200 accelerates much quicker than a 200NS. Does it not stand to reason that the 200NS can never catch the Duke in 5th - even given an infinite endless road? Assuming of course that both start together. |
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30th November 2012, 16:56 | #23 |
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| Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS : Ownership Review, 2200 Kms Preetham Nice Review and Photos. I was considering the Pulsar 200 NS. The only thing I did not like was the 12 Liter Tank and the Service Centres of Bajaj. Had an CT 100 for about three years, every service used to cost me around 1,000/-. However, my Suzuki GS 150 which has clocked 80,000 KMS costs only an average Rs.600 per service (with AMC). For example, the rear brake shoe lasts upto 25,000 KMS on my GS 150. However in my CT 100 I used to replace every 8,000 KMS (front and rear). Your point about build quality is true. Bajaj quality is still not that up of Japs Counterparts, but is catching up. Another irritating is only three free services if i am correct. Is the electric fully DC. Does the Headlight runs on Battery or not. Do keep the thread alive as you munch more kilometers. |
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30th November 2012, 17:03 | #24 | ||
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Thanks pulsurge for reading the review at a leisurely pace. That way the feedback becomes more detailed! Also, thank you for correcting me, what I meant was the other way round, as in the CBR has a taller 6th gear than the NS. My bad. Quote:
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30th November 2012, 17:22 | #25 | |
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In practice, however, with real life riding conditions and traffic, things are very different and my experience has been the opposite of yours. And this is the open highway we are talking here, not city. That is, every time there is a break in traffic, an opening, the Duke is gone, and the NS telescopes just as the next slow down comes up. If the traffic is sparser, the NS is soon at parity, but I have never had the NS overtake me. Admittedly, this is one NS and one rider I am talking about, and the production NS's could be different, but I am pretty sure he was not laboring in 5th, even though a blow up would not have been on his pocket. P.S. The new Dukes are limited to 132-133. The older ones were 135-136 (138 with the right conditions). Last edited by ebonho : 30th November 2012 at 17:26. | |
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30th November 2012, 19:32 | #27 | |
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Probably a little fairing might help the bike reach slightly higher speeds too! For the short while that I rode the NS, I did find it slightly weird at the rider's seat, particularly the knees, but maybe that's because I was just riding the bike for the first time. I was quite surprised at Bajaj deciding to go with Eurogrip tyres when the industry norm was MRF. Glad to see you went for the Pirelli, although I have my reservations on how effective that may be on Bangalore (if I may call them so)roads, we have nails, staple pins lying everywhere, so a soft compound tyre is always prone to a puncture. Also, Venkat's Auto Service is only for Bajaj Bikes. I have a Hero Honda Hunk, any idea where I can drop if off for service? The guys at Prakash Motors don't even know to tune the carb, they claim that a varying RPM needle is normal! | |
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| Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS : Ownership Review, 2200 Kms I started with a Pulsar way back in 2005 and bought a 180 then. Man, it was a head turner, but since then lot many competitors have barged into the arena, leaving it no more a one machine show. I own a P200 now and sport 35k kms on the ODO. What delights me most is the maintenance cost. I wouldn't have spent more than 5-7k till now including my paid services. I am very happy with my Pulsar and surely feel, its still the king of Roads no matter what may come. I must say, Honda bikes are really good and their refinement shows here too. Coming to PNS, it looks cool, sporty and much more sound technologically indeed, but i expected something revolutionary in the looks department. I agree that looks are subjective, but i guess no one would disagree on one point. IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER, MUCH BETTER. Nevertheless, its a gem of an engine. All the best and happy motoring |
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