[jkdas]

CBR: the one for newbie, less experienced. Game changer. Single cylinder,liquic cooled
Ninja: Fastest. Track love. Parellel twin.
Hyosung: Aircooled V twin. Bigger of the lot, less powerful of the lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqtvNfkS-ZI

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by jkdas

http://www.Youtube.com/user/motorcycle?feature=watch

CBR: the one for newbie, less experienced. Game changer. Single cylinder,liquic cooled
Ninja: Fastest. Track love. Parellel twin.
Hyosung: Aircooled V twin. Bigger of the lot, less powerful of the lot.

Nice comparo, but CBR being priced at 1.8L ex-showroom and Ninja 300 being ~ 3.5 ex (rumoured) will turn the tables big time in favour of the former.

Hyosung is bang on though! It doesn't make sense, be it there or here.

Would have loved to see a comparo with Duke 390.

[miles_hungry]

Originally Posted by jkdas

Hyosung: Aircooled V twin. Bigger of the lot, less powerful of the lot.

Less powerful of the lot? CBR 250 is the least powerful among those three.

Well, the hyosung with its pricing is very close to ninja's territory and hence it is not able to pull up numbers. Ninja being far superior than the korean bike. If someone needs a bike with a big bike feel then IMO CBR 250 is good value for money.

[jkdas]

Originally Posted by miles_hungry

Less powerful of the lot? CBR 250 is the least powerful among those three.

Well, the hyosung with its pricing is very close to ninja's territory and hence it is not able to pull up numbers. Ninja being far superior than the korean bike. If someone needs a bike with a big bike feel then IMO CBR 250 is good value for money.

Thats what they meant from the review. OR was i wrong?

CBR250 is the best buy.

Also to note; both Ninja and CBR has the ABS option.

[miles_hungry]

I haven't seen this review, but from the other reviews and my personal experience with the N250 and CBR250 I can confidently say that CBR250 is less powerful than hyosung. My p220 with K&N filter feels faster than the stock CBR250, not so sure about the top end of CBR250.

If someone is not looking for a sports bike look then the duke 200 should be an ideal choice, I wish it was available when I got my p220.

[ACM]

To me none of them seem to fill up the slot really well.

Ninja - 300 - Too expensive but a good quality bike yet not the best value for sure.
Hyosung - 250 - Too expensive for the quality and brand.
CBR -250 - Doesn't feel sufficently 250ish.

Bajaj Twins Duke 390 and Pulsar 350 both seem to be a better bet (on specs and reported pricing - when available) and better value depending on what exactly one wants.

[ebonho]

As a bike, its a no contest for the Ninja 300.

As a bang for buck, its currently a no contest for the CBR250.

Which will soon die once the Duke 390 comes out.

[slicvic]

Originally Posted by jkdas

http://www.Youtube.com/user/motorcycle?feature=watch

looks like the video has changed. got any other links?

[jkdas]

Originally Posted by slicvic

looks like the video has changed. got any other links?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqtvN...NRl4zg&index=2

ebonho: it should have died by now then. I havent done long tours on Duke or so but one would be fresher in CBR etc than in Duke.

[ebonho]

Originally Posted by jkdas

ebonho: it should have died by now then. I havent done long tours on Duke or so but one would be fresher in CBR etc than in Duke.

Can't say bro. I havent done long tours on the CBR.

But seriously, the CBR is bigger and faster than the Duke. But not by much. And also more expensive. By almost 40 grand. So the temptation to get nearly same performance at a much cheaper price is always there. Not to mention looks and equipment and raw aceleration.

But once the 390 comes, I somehow do not think someone stretching for the CBR would not or could not stretch a bit further for the 390. Because there the difference in performance will be really huge. Just my opinion.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by ebonho

Can't say bro. I havent done long tours on the CBR.

But seriously, the CBR is bigger and faster than the Duke. But not by much. And also more expensive. By almost 40 grand. So the temptation to get nearly same performance at a much cheaper price is always there. Not to mention looks and equipment and raw aceleration.

But once the 390 comes, I somehow do not think someone stretching for the CBR would not or could not stretch a bit further for the 390. Because there the difference in performance will be really huge. Just my opinion.

Someone having long commutes with tours (in vacation) would still go for a CBR. Also the one with a pillion.

For almost every occasion, the KTM, either the 200 or the 390 will be a better bet.

Its a nice balance between the two. A wise rider would know what to pick. The way I am riding nowadays, the KTM would have suited my needs better, but then I don't have much complaints.

Any idea on what is happening on the Ninja 400 front? That would be ideal, a screamer. The thing I miss while riding the CBR-250R.

The only dampener would be the absence of a PBK outlet. Conveniently located ~200kms away and that too out of state, i.e. in W.B.

So, for service as well, I will have a 400kms ride infront of me, just hope nothing goes wrong (so that I got to tow). Have been wise & sedate to not crash bikes since past 5 years. Hope to continue it

[sarsh11]

Originally Posted by Sheel

Someone having long commutes with tours (in vacation) would still go for a CBR. Also the one with a pillion.

For almost every occasion, the KTM, either the 200 or the 390 will be a better bet.

Its a nice balance between the two. A wise rider would know what to pick. The way I am riding nowadays, the KTM would have suited my needs better, but then I don't have much complaints.

Any idea on what is happening on the Ninja 400 front? That would be ideal, a screamer. The thing I miss while riding the CBR-250R.

The only dampener would be the absence of a PBK outlet. Conveniently located ~200kms away and that too out of state, i.e. in W.B.

So, for service as well, I will have a 400kms ride infront of me, just hope nothing goes wrong (so that I got to tow). Have been wise & sedate to not crash bikes since past 5 years. Hope to continue it

The 400 would no longer be feasible if the speculated prices of the Ninja 300 are to be believed. The Ninja 300 w/ all the bells and whistles would cost nearly 4 Lakhs, the Ninja 650 costs 5.5 Lakhs, so placing any new Bike between those two would only kill the sales of the others.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by sarsh11

The 400 would no longer be feasible if the speculated prices of the Ninja 300 are to be believed. The Ninja 300 w/ all the bells and whistles would cost nearly 4 Lakhs, the Ninja 650 costs 5.5 Lakhs, so placing any new Bike between those two would only kill the sales of the others.

As I said, a rider would know what to pick. Even if the 400R would cost 5L, it would be a deal.

The 650 is a completely different Motorcycle and people pick it up for its all round capability at which it is brilliant.

Others (like me) who want a sharper handling bike, with power reserve in the upper regions with very good handling & brakes, is okay with so so ride & back breaking posture would pay 5L for the 400R. It is all about priorities & knowing what you want from your ride.

The CBR 250R which I am currently riding neither has a peaky power plant nor has very sorted handling, but I am living with it as I am commuting nowadays & despite being a full-faired bike, its ability to fly over bad roads & its ride amaze me.

The CBR 250R is a convincingly faster Motorcycle than the R15, but R15 was more involving.

[apachelongbow]

For touring, the CBR 250 feels a better bike anyday. Its not about engine size, top end or flickability, on the open roads, a bike which pampers your back, doesnt hurt your wrists and provides adequate wind protection at higher speeds is a deal maker.

Compared to the Ninja 250/Comet 250 the CBR offers a more commuter friendly (read relaxed) riding position. The wind blast protection to me feels better sorted than the other two.
The aggressive vibrations from the comet with a peaky power band (relatively speaking) is uncomfortable for a 5-8hour cruise. Plus the weight on the wrist oriented seating is a deal breaker for me.
Ninja again is better than the comet, but you still lean forward more than the CBR. However the Ninja engine is better in terms of raw performance.

The KTM is a superb bike for the money. Oodles of performance, light weight, its a perfect city commuter, however the lack of fairing creates lot of wind buffeting at higher (90 up) speeds.

In terms of pure touring I still prefer a bullet, especially my TB500 because of the extremely laid back power delivery with 90 coming it at a very lowish 3000 odd rpm. However I wish RE had sold a screen for the TB.

If I was a more dedicated tourer/motorcyclist I would definitely go for a Ninja 650 with my eyes closed. For me it gives almost 90% of my requirements from a touring bike.
PS: The above is based on my riding experiences with the various bikes in mention.

[sarsh11]

Originally Posted by Sheel

As I said, a rider would know what to pick. Even if the 400R would cost 5L, it would be a deal.

The 650 is a completely different Motorcycle and people pick it up for its all round capability at which it is brilliant.

From the images I see online, the 400R is similar to the 650R in appearance and posture and bears no resemblance to the 300. (http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...und-india.html)

And the 400R produces 42HP(?) compared to the 71HP on the 650R and 39HP on the 300. There is practically no reason for anyone to buy this bike instead of the other two. Anymore bikes in the same range would only increase expenditures for Bajaj i.e training, production, spares etc.

Bajaj has done its part; now its up to the other manufacturers to bring in the competition.