SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing

Scorcher · 14th May 2013, 17:20

This image popped up on the internet today and it seems Yamaha is testing either the R125 or the much anticipated 250cc bike.

Source

dreamseller · 14th May 2013, 19:08

I'd love to be proven wrong, but this definitely looks like an R125. The alloys, tail-lights, left mounted front disc all point towards the same. Where was this spotted? Are you sure it was spotted in India, because this isn't even properly camouflaged. Unless of course the launch date is very very near and they want publicity.

As a matter of fact, this color scheme existed in their European line-up until last year. Which is why I'm almost certain that this is a production version of the R125.

aditya.bhardwaj · 14th May 2013, 19:21

This is the CPI Brutale 250. Even i thought it was an R125 or 250 but few posts in facebook confirmed it to be a different motorcycle. This company is based out of Phillippines. Here are some pics

Source : https://www.facebook.com/pages/CPI-M...51428191615637

Regards

dreamseller · 14th May 2013, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by aditya.bhardwaj

This is the CPI Brutale 250. Even i thought it was an R125 or 250 but few posts in facebook confirmed it to be a different motorcycle. This company is based out of Phillippines. Here are some pics

Regards

Holy Cow!!

They have simply traced the lines of the R125! Changed the mirrors, added a grabrail, lifted the brand name off an Italian marque and voila! You have a 250cc motorcycle with 16BHP on tap.

Thanks for the info though. The last time I was this shocked was when I saw pics of the Chinese Gulsar.

Joxster · 15th May 2013, 02:20

Not a bad looking bike at all! But the engine tuning seems very poor. Just 16 BHP out of a 250 CC engine

? Even if this bike is priced sensibly, I don't see it having too many takers.

The Indian biking scene is maturing up, and a lot of people have actually started looking a lot more at performance than just mileage, which is why we have some nice bikes on sale here

ku69rd · 15th May 2013, 12:34

Never heard of this brand, interesting to follow this bike if at all they launch in India. If they offer it at good price matched with quality/finish and performance they might succeed in wooing away customers from CBR. But I guess off late the 250 Segment is somewhat saturated. Majority of the public's eyes will be on KTM 390

arjun18 · 16th May 2013, 17:52

Doesn't look like this bike has much of a chance here in india. One, its definitely going to be priced above a lakh and a half (which 250 isnt?, plus its mostly going to come as a CBU). The price will make people research it, and when they find out it hardly has any power for its size and price, they will dump it. The R15 with its 150cc produces 16.8 bhp. This is a joke. The test rides will send off more people with the bullock cart performance. Even if it's priced well, the "made in china" tag(or Philippines) drives away everybody, the main reason Hyosungs haven't done so well here.

TaurusAl · 17th May 2013, 11:49

The rears are getting higher and higher up I see. Sad to see more and more less practical bikes are coming in the circuit. In India bikes are more used to commute than to race isn't it ?

Indraneel Bhat · 21st May 2013, 19:54

Hello,

Apologies if this sounds like an unfair rant.....

There is one thing I don't understand. Why does the Indian car \ motorcycle buyer have to deal with lazily conceptualised products all the time? What were the company thinking in this case? We'll just make a racy looking bike, plonk in a sleepy engine, overprice it and sell it to the fools they call the "Indian market"?

I feel this attitude in so many products. Why did Yamaha not sell the R15 in it's current avataar to begin with? Did they think they were doing us a favour by coming out with a 150cc sportsbike with a thin rear tyre and price it above INR 1 lakh ie. the R15 V1.0? thankfully the R15 v1.0 was a great bike to ride. But if I'm spending above INR 1 lakh on a bike, it had better look like it as well.

The CBR250R could have been a replica of the CBR600RR in my opinion, just as the R15 and the current ninja 300 are of the R6 and the ZX10R respectively. But instead of a baby "Ceeber", they gave us a baby "Veefer".

I really feel it has more to do with the "jee huzoor" culture prevalent in corporate India. Nobody has the guts to frankly put forth their points to their seniors in these companies. I'm sure that the highly qualified staff at these companies know when they see a bad design or concept. But the fear of upsetting the boss overrides everything. I have to mention the Zen Estillo as another example even though this is the motorcycle forum. The Estillo made people miss the old zen more. The A-star, I felt, would have been a more fitting successor to the Zen.

The above are only my 2 bits. Points of view from the more experienced \ informed members are welcome...

14th May 2013, 17:20	#1
Scorcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Trivandrum, KL Posts: 4,918 Thanked: 7,124 Times	SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing This image popped up on the internet today and it seems Yamaha is testing either the R125 or the much anticipated 250cc bike. *Source* Attached Thumbnails
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14th May 2013, 19:08	#2
dreamseller BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 425 Thanked: 465 Times View My Garage	re: SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing I'd love to be proven wrong, but this definitely looks like an R125. The alloys, tail-lights, left mounted front disc all point towards the same. Where was this spotted? Are you sure it was spotted in India, because this isn't even properly camouflaged. Unless of course the launch date is very very near and they want publicity. As a matter of fact, this color scheme existed in their European line-up until last year. Which is why I'm almost certain that this is a production version of the R125. Last edited by dreamseller : 14th May 2013 at 19:14.
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14th May 2013, 19:21	#3
aditya.bhardwaj BHPian Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: - Posts: 268 Thanked: 464 Times	re: SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing This is the CPI Brutale 250. Even i thought it was an R125 or 250 but few posts in facebook confirmed it to be a different motorcycle. This company is based out of Phillippines. Here are some pics Source : https://www.facebook.com/pages/CPI-M...51428191615637 Regards Attached Thumbnails
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15th May 2013, 02:20	#5
Joxster BHPian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Mechelen Posts: 619 Thanked: 2,218 Times	re: SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing Not a bad looking bike at all! But the engine tuning seems very poor. Just 16 BHP out of a 250 CC engine ? Even if this bike is priced sensibly, I don't see it having too many takers. The Indian biking scene is maturing up, and a lot of people have actually started looking a lot more at performance than just mileage, which is why we have some nice bikes on sale here
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15th May 2013, 12:34	#6
ku69rd Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,510 Thanked: 1,779 Times View My Garage	re: SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing Never heard of this brand, interesting to follow this bike if at all they launch in India. If they offer it at good price matched with quality/finish and performance they might succeed in wooing away customers from CBR. But I guess off late the 250 Segment is somewhat saturated. Majority of the public's eyes will be on KTM 390
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16th May 2013, 17:52	#7
arjun18 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Pune Posts: 42 Thanked: 14 Times	Re: SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing Doesn't look like this bike has much of a chance here in india. One, its definitely going to be priced above a lakh and a half (which 250 isnt?, plus its mostly going to come as a CBU). The price will make people research it, and when they find out it hardly has any power for its size and price, they will dump it. The R15 with its 150cc produces 16.8 bhp. This is a joke. The test rides will send off more people with the bullock cart performance. Even if it's priced well, the "made in china" tag(or Philippines) drives away everybody, the main reason Hyosungs haven't done so well here.
	() Thanks

17th May 2013, 11:49	#8
TaurusAl BHPian Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Mumbai - MH 01 Posts: 600 Thanked: 436 Times	Re: SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing The rears are getting higher and higher up I see. Sad to see more and more less practical bikes are coming in the circuit. In India bikes are more used to commute than to race isn't it ?
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21st May 2013, 19:54	#9
Indraneel Bhat BHPian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 122 Thanked: 328 Times	Re: SCOOP :: CPI Brutale 250 Spotted Testing Hello, Apologies if this sounds like an unfair rant..... There is one thing I don't understand. Why does the Indian car \ motorcycle buyer have to deal with lazily conceptualised products all the time? What were the company thinking in this case? We'll just make a racy looking bike, plonk in a sleepy engine, overprice it and sell it to the fools they call the "Indian market"? I feel this attitude in so many products. Why did Yamaha not sell the R15 in it's current avataar to begin with? Did they think they were doing us a favour by coming out with a 150cc sportsbike with a thin rear tyre and price it above INR 1 lakh ie. the R15 V1.0? thankfully the R15 v1.0 was a great bike to ride. But if I'm spending above INR 1 lakh on a bike, it had better look like it as well. The CBR250R could have been a replica of the CBR600RR in my opinion, just as the R15 and the current ninja 300 are of the R6 and the ZX10R respectively. But instead of a baby "Ceeber", they gave us a baby "Veefer". I really feel it has more to do with the "jee huzoor" culture prevalent in corporate India. Nobody has the guts to frankly put forth their points to their seniors in these companies. I'm sure that the highly qualified staff at these companies know when they see a bad design or concept. But the fear of upsetting the boss overrides everything. I have to mention the Zen Estillo as another example even though this is the motorcycle forum. The Estillo made people miss the old zen more. The A-star, I felt, would have been a more fitting successor to the Zen. The above are only my 2 bits. Points of view from the more experienced \ informed members are welcome...
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