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Old 3rd April 2018, 21:43   #136
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Re: TVS Jupiter or something else?

Is the Wego out of production? I was told this at the TVS showroom in Gachibowli, Hyderabad. I had gone to take a look at NTorq 125. Overall the staff was least bothered and didn't even ask for contact details.
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Old 20th April 2018, 17:39   #137
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Hi All,

Need some suggestions from Jupiter owners. We have had our Activa from 2003. It was time for upgrade.

Dad wants to go for the trusted Honda Engine whereas I am trying to make him explore the TVS JupiterPros against Activa 5G:
  • Outside Fuel filling
  • Better Suspension than Activa
  • Bigger tire size

Need suggestions:
  • Is cold start issue present in Jupiter as well? I used to hate the kick start of Honda and which has hurt couple of our family members with its recoil.
  • Is this issue still present?
  • Typical maintenance cost?

I am not at home to sway his decision to Jupiter hence these suggestions.
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Old 20th April 2018, 18:46   #138
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I am not at home to sway his decision to Jupiter hence these suggestions.
Not Jupiter but we have 2 Wego's at home from 2012. There has been no issues with cold start on these 2 so far. On the Activa, the cold start issue is definitely present as I have witnessed this with multiple 1-1.5 year old Activas in my office parking with the owners struggling to start them after it has been stationary for around 7-8 hours. Maintenance costs for most scooters will be in the same ball park. Honda service centers are notorious for not doing anything during service and returning the scooter by just washing it. TVS is slightly better in Bangalore at least where in they have customer lounge near the service bays and you can watch the vehicle getting serviced in some of the big service centers. Not that they are saints but definitely better than Honda and their callous attitude towards Activa customers.

You are also spot on with the benefits of going for Jupiter over the Activa 5g since the plush suspension on the Jupiter alone should swing one's decision over to the TVS camp compared to the decades old front suspension set up on the Honda. Along with that you also get the additional convenience of external fuel filling and the engine of the Jupiter is equally if not better refined compared to the Activa. The Wegos at home are going fine at 20k kms and 18k kms on each with not a single refinement or power issue with the engines. Jupiter should certainly be a better bet for your dad. Hope this helps!
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Old 21st April 2018, 08:35   #139
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I've had the Jupiter for a year now. Its run about 7000km without an issue. There is no cold start problem. In Delhi winter it needs choke and a few self button pushes but it starts without a kick. Service has been free upto now - Rs. 280 is the bill for oil change. It needs service every 3000-3500 km. Servicing is good (GK TVS in Patparganj Industrial Area, Delhi) and I normally book the Express Service so they give it back to me in about 1 hour. There is a decent waiting lounge with newspaper and coffee!! I don't know about Honda because I've never tried it.
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Need some suggestions from Jupiter owners.

Need suggestions:
  • Is cold start issue present in Jupiter as well? I used to hate the kick start of Honda and which has hurt couple of our family members with its recoil.
  • Is this issue still present?
  • Typical maintenance cost?
I have owned the Jupiter almost since last 3 years now. (June 2015 model)

Totally fuss free and not a single extra rupee has been spent on anything other than regular maintenance and fuel.

I use the electric start only and till date I have had no problems there. Had initial carb setting issues, but got them sorted in the first and second service and has been trouble free since then.

The sweet spot is between 30 to 60 kmph where the engine feels so much buttery smooth to ride.

The ezee stand, front hook, telescopic suspension, extremely comfortable seat and refined engine: these are the features that have made me a satisfied customer.
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Old 1st May 2018, 01:15   #141
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my Jupiter ZX Disc has crossed 13400 on the ODO. How do I check if my vehicle is covered with 5 year warranty ? The date of purchase was june 2017.
Is there a way to purchase the extra warranty now ?
Can someone give details of the timely service to be followed?
Is there a way to put an end to AHO.
Will I be caught by cops / warranty be void if I install a headlight switch in the dummy provided ?
Any suggestions / advice on the pros / cons of installing extra AUX lamp / FOG lamp / DRL like in sooty pep +
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Thanks for the feedback guys!

My folks have gone ahead and booked the Classic in Brown! Expected Delivery in 15 days!
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Old 28th May 2018, 12:45   #143
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Posting this Registration Service charges issue in this thread as this relates to a TVS Jupiter purchase and relates to TVS and their dealers attitude.

Mods, please excuse as I want to create maximum awareness on this issue as well as TVS's response as TVS dealers are charging around 1.5 times more than others for 'Registration Service Charges'.

I purchased a TVS Jupiter from a Pune authorised dealer last month. He added Rs. 1250 as 'Registration Service Charges' which was initially quoted in RTO Taxes & Others. Checked that the situation was same with other dealers. Protested with the showroom manager, who said its decided by management and not in his hands. Anyways went ahead with the purchase . Subsequently I raised a complaint with Pune RTO and informed the media.

Based on many such complaints a popular newspaper ran an investigation and subsequently Pune RTO clarified that such charges are illegal. They informed dealers to stop charging and put up a notice at all showrooms to this effect.

Armed with this update, I raised a complaint with TVS. The dealer manager called me up and after much discussion I received a full refund. However he informed that these are paid to RTO officials as bribes to quickly register vehicles without inspection. Now even if Pune RTO is denying the same and warning dealers, the practice of corruption has continued and no dealer risks challenging it. Even if all dealers were part of a recent meeting with Pune RTO, nobody raised the actual issue and all agreed that they do not pay anything to RTO (which I consider was a huge missed opportunity to stand up against this corruption). Worst part is that even manufacturers like TVS are turning a blind eye towards this and are asking dealers to just deal with any complaints from their own pocket.

The dealer has informed that they have started asking customers to go ahead with the registration process themselves, if they do not want to pay these charges (which is supposedly allowed as per Motor Vehicles Act). I urge all BHPians to avoid paying any such charges and try registering vehicles on their own . This may take additional 1-2 visits to the RTO, but will bring a slowdown to this huge corruption cycle which runs into crores of rupees if the volume of vehicle sales is considered.


The links of the newspaper articles in Sakal (Marathi) and the Indian Express provided below -

http://124.30.219.86/EpaperData/Saka..._1508_2406.jpg

http://124.30.219.86/EpaperData/Saka..._1906_1422.jpg

http://epaper.indianexpress.com/c/28903974

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Hi All,

Need some suggestions from Jupiter owners. We have had our Activa from 2003. It was time for upgrade.

Dad wants to go for the trusted Honda Engine whereas I am trying to make him explore the TVS JupiterPros against Activa 5G:
Hi Sir, I humbly request some guidance from you. I am planning to buy a gearless scooter for my Dad. He is 63 years old and suffers from acute and severe lower back pain. He is presently using Honda Activa-2007 Model. I am slowly cutting down all the possible/plausible sources leading to his backpain. Hence, I wish to replace his scooter for the same.
In this connection, I would like to borrow some anecdotes of your scooter buying experiences.
My main requirement is the BEST SUSPENSION among all gearless scooters, which can ameliorate his pain while using and also after using the vehicle. Presently, I am in dilemma between

1. TVS JUPITER

2. SUZUKI ACCESS 125

Does Jupiter's Gas Filled Mono Shock Rear Suspension + 12" Rear Wheel, has any palpable comfort than the Access's less vibrating engine (maybe due to 125cc)?
Can you elaborate your findings and feelings with respect to both the vehicles.
I am not at all concerned about mileage. I just want his vehicle to play the least role in his sufferings.
Thank you in anticipation.
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1. TVS JUPITER

2. SUZUKI ACCESS 125
I have an Access 125 and the suspension is very stiff. You will literally feel every bump in the road. The Jupiter has bigger wheels and a much better suspension. Please test ride and you will see the difference. If your dad already has back pain, please stay away from the Access.
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I am slowly cutting down all the possible/plausible sources leading to his backpain. Hence, I wish to replace his scooter for the same.
63, severe/acute back pain, roads in India and scooters dont mix well. No matter how big the wheels and how plush the suspension. Is there a really compelling reason why he simply must ride a scooter? That itself could be a reason for backpain. I would advise that he completely avoids it if possible!
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Old 21st June 2018, 10:25   #147
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A quick question. Does the TVS Jupiter with disc brakes come in normal colors like black? not the beige/brown/purple color.
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Just now booked a TVS Jupiter for my wife. During my scooter search I had couple of options, one is the old tried and tested Honda Activa, we have one in the family. Second choice was the TVS Jupiter, it was easily available in our neighborhood.

The roads conditions near our place are nothing worth mentioning itís just pathetic. Hence rode handling and comfort were key parameters in consideration. Riding an Activa one could feel all the bumps and road irregularities. In the handling department too Activa did not inspire much confidence. On the other hand Jupiter did a pretty well in the handling and suspension departments. The 12 inch wheels on the Jupiter and front telescopic suspension did a much better jobs compared to the Active. I would say these are the Jupiterís key differentiators.

I was not much worried about the Jupiterís engine and performance as it is a proven work horse carried over from its older cousin Wego. Besides this the Honda Activa dealer experience was quite subpar, their take it or leave it attitude just put me off.

I think due to our typical Indian herd mentality everyone just goes for Honda Activa without looking at other competent products. Itís also worth mentioning that Honda service is also equally bad in our area just because of the sheer volumes of vehicles they handle on a daily basis.
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I am using a Jupiter since 2015 and I service it regularly with Kushal Auto, near Premlok Park, Chinchwad area.

Everytime I see the bill, they have changed the engine oil. Difference between my last 2 services was 4 months and only 1000-1200 kms approximately. Still they changed the oil.

I confronted the owners and they said after 4 months oil gets bad even if Jupiter used sparingly. I told them I have a Honda scooter too (the Aviator) and this is not the case with Honda. Why do you change oil every time? Another thing they do is clutch overhauling, every service they include this item.

He had no proper answer. He told me that TVS guidelines are followed and oil change is preventive maintenance. The bill for every service is steep (Rs. 860) which made me to do only 3 services a year (TVS recommends 4 services).

Can anyone help here and tell me if the engine oil change & clutch overhauling is really required every 4 months even if scooter ran for only 1000 kms?
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Can anyone help here and tell me if the engine oil change & clutch overhauling is really required every 4 months even if scooter ran for only 1000 kms?
Please check service schedule in owner manual.

Oil Change: Mostly required in each service, major component of a service. Follow this at least during warranty time-frame, can relax it by delaying services post-warranty if usage is really less.

Clutch overhaul: Not really essential, have been seeing this item in every service center these days. Would find it appropriate once in a year but not in each service. I have experienced goof-up by service center once, so this is a 'ticked off' item in my list.

Transmission oil change
: Every alternate service is desired, but sometimes service center skips this unless specifically demanded. Ironical, that this is mentioned by TVS in service schedule, but most centers are busy in getting money via clutch overhaul than changing transmission oil.
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