RD or TZR

TCX · 22nd July 2006, 20:23

Hmmm, well, as the title suggests is the 1984 RD 350 LC YPVS or the 1987 TZR 250 YPVS a better choice?

The RD's specs
Capacity- 347.00cc
Power- 58.00 HP
Weight(wet)- 170 kgs.
Cylinders- 2
Stroke- 2
RPM Redline- 9500
Top Speed- 117mph (189kph)
This bike was made for the street, mad, and if tuned right can beat several larger capacity bikes of our time.

The TZR's specs
Capacity- 250.00cc
Power- 50.00 HP
Weight(wet)- 150 kgs.
Cyliners- 2
Stroke- 2
RPM Redline- not sure, but around 12000
Top Speed- 120mph (195kph)
This bike is the direct(street legal) cousin of the race track TZ250, which kicked a lot of *** in its time. This bike is extremely agile, and extremely quick. This can also blow some powerful large bikes.

So, what do you think? I did loads of research, but can't make up my mind. All opinions are greatly appreciated.

TC

Ace_Racer · 22nd July 2006, 20:30

For me it's anyday ..........TZR

TheCockroach · 22nd July 2006, 21:44

Whoa! Dude are you just asking us our preference or are you looking to buy one of those monsters?

I love both of them. But when it comes to it I would go for the TZR. But maintaining them is a bomb.

TCX · 22nd July 2006, 21:48

Well, this is what I have in mind, I am looking out for one of these to buy.

If I don't find any in good condition or if they don't fit my budget, I walk straight into a Hero Honda showroom and buy a Karizma or stick to my car.

devarshi84 · 23rd July 2006, 00:44

here is the solution.

http://bsmotoring.com/bsmrd350club/liquid.htm

enjoy.

ranjan united · 23rd July 2006, 07:06

The RD350 for me. any day, any time.

Mpower · 23rd July 2006, 07:49

TZ is a much more modern bike. RD is really 70s technology.
Good luck finding either of them.

TCX · 23rd July 2006, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

TZ is a much more modern bike. RD is really 70s technology.
Good luck finding either of them.

The RD 350 LC YPVS, is a Liquid cooled model that was imported. It was under production in the US from 1983 to 1989.

@devarshi84- I was refering to the TZR not the RZ. The RZ is a very sober bike(not the 350 61HP version) in comparison to the TZR. The TZR is in some way, more ferocious than the RD also, as it was a track bike made street legal and it also got itself the next level of YPVS technology. But they both have amazing power to weight ratios. The main difference where the TZR out does the RD is in handling and agility. This bike can be swerved around and you would still have loads of confidence left.

So, now you see, I'm still very very confused.

killjoy · 23rd July 2006, 22:50

either one is wonderful to ride but a headache to maintain

kb100 · 24th July 2006, 00:18

I still remember the review that I read 20 some yrs back ... on the RD 350 LC.... " Its power can easily lift the front wheels even in third gear ... and its twin front calipers can likewise lift the rear!"

Truly RACE DERIVED... but if the other one handles better ... then guess you should go for it!

blueraven316 · 24th July 2006, 00:51

Have seen my friend Smoke one of my other friend's CBR 600 RR with a Modded 350 LC, other TZR, have never seen or riden, but since you said you will buy a Karizma if you dont get any of the two, there are two points :
-> Looks like you need a daily use vehicle, so If you happen to buy one of those monsters then it will be in the garage for 2 months every 15 to 20 days you ride, and you know why.
-> I feel its a horrible downgrade from those two to a Karizma, you can might as well search for a good RD350 HT in India , pay abt 45 to 50k to get a neat bike and be happy and yeah ! forget the mileage part.

Last but not the least, those two stroke monsters need amazing throttle control, 2 Strokes have very different powerbands depending on the weather, so backflipping on a wheelie is the easiest thing to do

2L8uLoose · 24th July 2006, 07:55

DUDE.. no choice here...the RD ANY DAY!!
You won't regret your choice

!

turbo_v12 · 24th July 2006, 18:35

Haven't ridden the TZR, and love the RD, but I think the TZR would be a better choice.

The TZR revs to a manical 10,000 rpm man...insane! And by the looks of it, the TZR would handle better than the RD, and is a lot more rare.

All the best with what you choose.

Killer · 26th July 2006, 02:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueraven316

Have seen my friend Smoke one of my other friend's CBR 600 RR with a Modded 350 LC

There must be something very wrong with that 600RR or the rider

killjoy · 26th July 2006, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killer

There must be something very wrong with that 600RR or the rider

not necessarily, depends also on a lot of factors like where they were riding, traffic conditions, etc

22nd July 2006, 20:23	#1
TCX BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	RD or TZR Hmmm, well, as the title suggests is the 1984 RD 350 LC YPVS or the 1987 TZR 250 YPVS a better choice? The RD's specs Capacity- 347.00cc Power- 58.00 HP Weight(wet)- 170 kgs. Cylinders- 2 Stroke- 2 RPM Redline- 9500 Top Speed- 117mph (189kph) This bike was made for the street, mad, and if tuned right can beat several larger capacity bikes of our time. The TZR's specs Capacity- 250.00cc Power- 50.00 HP Weight(wet)- 150 kgs. Cyliners- 2 Stroke- 2 RPM Redline- not sure, but around 12000 Top Speed- 120mph (195kph) This bike is the direct(street legal) cousin of the race track TZ250, which kicked a lot of *** in its time. This bike is extremely agile, and extremely quick. This can also blow some powerful large bikes. So, what do you think? I did loads of research, but can't make up my mind. All opinions are greatly appreciated. TC
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22nd July 2006, 20:30	#2
Ace_Racer BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 43 Thanked: Once	For me it's anyday ..........TZR
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22nd July 2006, 21:44	#3
TheCockroach BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 134 Thanked: 3 Times	Whoa! Dude are you just asking us our preference or are you looking to buy one of those monsters? I love both of them. But when it comes to it I would go for the TZR. But maintaining them is a bomb.
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22nd July 2006, 21:48	#4
TCX BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	Well, this is what I have in mind, I am looking out for one of these to buy. If I don't find any in good condition or if they don't fit my budget, I walk straight into a Hero Honda showroom and buy a Karizma or stick to my car.
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23rd July 2006, 00:44	#5
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	here is the solution. http://bsmotoring.com/bsmrd350club/liquid.htm enjoy.
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23rd July 2006, 07:06	#6
ranjan united BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Canada... But still a Bombay-Boy at heart !!! Posts: 409 Thanked: 3 Times	The RD350 for me. any day, any time.
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23rd July 2006, 07:49	#7
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	TZ is a much more modern bike. RD is really 70s technology. Good luck finding either of them.
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23rd July 2006, 22:50	#9
killjoy BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 753 Thanked: 317 Times View My Garage	either one is wonderful to ride but a headache to maintain
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24th July 2006, 00:18	#10
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	I still remember the review that I read 20 some yrs back ... on the RD 350 LC.... " Its power can easily lift the front wheels even in third gear ... and its twin front calipers can likewise lift the rear!" Truly RACE DERIVED... but if the other one handles better ... then guess you should go for it! Last edited by kb100 : 24th July 2006 at 00:23.
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24th July 2006, 00:51	#11
blueraven316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,110 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Have seen my friend Smoke one of my other friend's CBR 600 RR with a Modded 350 LC, other TZR, have never seen or riden, but since you said you will buy a Karizma if you dont get any of the two, there are two points : -> Looks like you need a daily use vehicle, so If you happen to buy one of those monsters then it will be in the garage for 2 months every 15 to 20 days you ride, and you know why. -> I feel its a horrible downgrade from those two to a Karizma, you can might as well search for a good RD350 HT in India , pay abt 45 to 50k to get a neat bike and be happy and yeah ! forget the mileage part. Last but not the least, those two stroke monsters need amazing throttle control, 2 Strokes have very different powerbands depending on the weather, so backflipping on a wheelie is the easiest thing to do Last edited by blueraven316 : 24th July 2006 at 00:54.
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24th July 2006, 07:55	#12
2L8uLoose BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 628 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	DUDE.. no choice here...the RD ANY DAY!! You won't regret your choice!
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24th July 2006, 18:35	#13
turbo_v12 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thane Posts: 457 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Haven't ridden the TZR, and love the RD, but I think the TZR would be a better choice. The TZR revs to a manical 10,000 rpm man...insane! And by the looks of it, the TZR would handle better than the RD, and is a lot more rare. All the best with what you choose.
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