help - to buy an RX100 or RX135

rranjith_kum · 18th August 2006, 18:47

Hi.... I m planning to buy a RX100 or RX135 ... i need some of your advice to wat all to look out for ... i want to buy one that is in good condition and gives good ride ... pretty much unmodified version.... pls help

Ranjith

TheCockroach · 19th August 2006, 03:35

Pretty hard to find an unmodified RX. But look around, might have to look hard to find one in pristine condition. Suggest the RX135 5 Speed. Nothing against the RX 100 but would suggest the 135 5 speed more.

rranjith_kum · 19th August 2006, 19:43

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Originally Posted by TheCockroach

Suggest the RX135 5 Speed. Nothing against the RX 100 but would suggest the 135 5 speed more.

hi... Actually why are you suggesting the RX135 5 speed more ...is there any specific reason... also is there any difference in the performance when comparing RXZ and RX135...

TheCockroach · 20th August 2006, 03:12

There is no replacement for displacement. 100cc vs 135cc, obvious choice. More power, taller gearing, 5 cogs. Take your pick.

"comparing RXZ and RX135..."

No difference, just cosmetically different.

mail4ajo · 20th August 2006, 10:06

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Originally Posted by TheCockroach

There is no replacement for displacement. 100cc vs 135cc, obvious choice. More power, taller gearing, 5 cogs.

Cockroach is certainly right. But, I would prefer a RX100 to a RX135 for its sweet exhaust note and legendry following. But couldnt get a decently maintained one, hence grabbed a RX135.

Well, while buying a RX series, you need to look out for all stuff that you would do for a used bike. Special things you need to see:
1. Check for the oil pump on the right side of the engine. Most used bike wont have this. Mixing oil in the tank is not preffered. See if 2T is maintained in the oil compartment on the left.
2. Although, the RX series engines can take good thrashing, do care to check them. A look a the spark plugs will tell you the story. There is a plug story reading guide that will tell you whats happening in the engine.
3. Check the gearoil level and colour. Badly maintained bikes will have dark and worn out gearoil. This is neglected by many users. This affects gear shifting and wears out the gear teeth.
4. Check shock absorbers - Front - any oil deposits on the fork will indicate signs of worn out oil seals. check operation. Rear shocks should operate fine.
5. Other stuff to inspect include chain set, wheel bearings, electricals, cables etc.

Maintain the bike well and it will excite you with awesome performance.

rohitbagai · 20th August 2006, 21:49

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Originally Posted by TheCockroach

There is no replacement for displacement. 100cc vs 135cc, obvious choice. More power, taller gearing, 5 cogs. Take your pick.

"comparing RXZ and RX135..."

No difference, just cosmetically different.

the RXZ with 4-Speed has problems in starting while RX135 dont have starting problems.

rranjith_kum · 21st August 2006, 19:23

One of my friend mentioned that RXZ produces more power. Is the change merely cosmetic.....

TheCockroach · 21st August 2006, 23:37

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Originally Posted by rohitbagai

the RXZ with 4-Speed has problems in starting while RX135 dont have starting problems.

Nothing as such, I own an RXZ 4 speed. Haven't encountered any starting problems till date.

TheCockroach · 21st August 2006, 23:40

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Originally Posted by rranjith_kum

One of my friend mentioned that RXZ produces more power. Is the change merely cosmetic.....

Yes it is only cosmetic. RX135 and RXZ 4 speeds is supposed to make 12 bhp. The RX135 and RXZ 5 speeds make 14 bhp.

rohitbagai · 22nd August 2006, 03:30

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Originally Posted by TheCockroach

Nothing as such, I own an RXZ 4 speed. Haven't encountered any starting problems till date.

Well at least 5 of my friends had RXZ and I had RXG as well as RX100. The RXZ-G needs more kicks to start even after 4-5 hours stand still. My RX100 starts in First kick even after one month Hault. I know exactly why that happens. It’s to do with the size of clutch drum which was rectified in RX135 5 speed. I was called up at escorts to explain the problem way back. I don’t remember exact year. I took my RXG with RX100’s clutch fitted and it was easy for them to understand. They acknowledged and problem was solved in the next lot.

rranjith_kum · 22nd August 2006, 22:00

I actually never knew that there is so many models in the RX series ... RXG- quiet unheard of ... could anyone please post the model's history...

TheCockroach · 22nd August 2006, 22:14

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Originally Posted by rohitbagai

Well at least 5 of my friends had RXZ and I had RXG as well as RX100. The RXZ-G needs more kicks to start even after 4-5 hours stand still. My RX100 starts in First kick even after one month Hault. I know exactly why that happens. It’s to do with the size of clutch drum which was rectified in RX135 5 speed. I was called up at escorts to explain the problem way back. I don’t remember exact year. I took my RXG with RX100’s clutch fitted and it was easy for them to understand. They acknowledged and problem was solved in the next lot.

OK. I'll take your word for it.

satyamenon · 23rd August 2006, 00:01

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Originally Posted by rohitbagai

Well at least 5 of my friends had RXZ and I had RXG as well as RX100. The RXZ-G needs more kicks to start even after 4-5 hours stand still. My RX100 starts in First kick even after one month Hault. I know exactly why that happens. It’s to do with the size of clutch drum which was rectified in RX135 5 speed. I was called up at escorts to explain the problem way back. I don’t remember exact year. I took my RXG with RX100’s clutch fitted and it was easy for them to understand. They acknowledged and problem was solved in the next lot.

@Rohit, This sounds interesting. Could you explain the logic behind the fix?

iamdstig · 30th October 2006, 09:58

Hello ppl
I hav an RX-135 2004 make 4-spd bike
I had fitted a stock 5-spd (14bhp) Barrel
The max speed i could do on it was 110 to 115kmph on a long straight
The only other mod was a modded SILENCER for free flow exhaust (INBUILT... It's called inbuilt in Bangalore and Mysore)

The stock 5 spd bike as per the company profile has to do a 110

so now my question arises
1) Is the final gear ratio of a 5-spd and a 4-spd same?
2) Is it really worth fitting a 5-spd gearbox on my bike?

Finance is not a concern and I know mech's in Bangalore who can get it done for me

and if possible can anyone gimme the gear ratio's for both the 4-spd and 5-spd, it would help me decide whether to go for it or not

jkdas · 30th October 2006, 11:50

get a RXZ 5speed, a well maintained one would cost 30-35k at TVM

18th August 2006, 18:47	#1
rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	help - to buy an RX100 or RX135 Hi.... I m planning to buy a RX100 or RX135 ... i need some of your advice to wat all to look out for ... i want to buy one that is in good condition and gives good ride ... pretty much unmodified version.... pls help Ranjith
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19th August 2006, 03:35	#2
TheCockroach BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 134 Thanked: 3 Times	Pretty hard to find an unmodified RX. But look around, might have to look hard to find one in pristine condition. Suggest the RX135 5 Speed. Nothing against the RX 100 but would suggest the 135 5 speed more.
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20th August 2006, 03:12	#4
TheCockroach BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 134 Thanked: 3 Times	There is no replacement for displacement. 100cc vs 135cc, obvious choice. More power, taller gearing, 5 cogs. Take your pick. "comparing RXZ and RX135..." No difference, just cosmetically different.
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21st August 2006, 19:23	#7
rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	One of my friend mentioned that RXZ produces more power. Is the change merely cosmetic.....
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22nd August 2006, 22:00	#11
rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	I actually never knew that there is so many models in the RX series ... RXG- quiet unheard of ... could anyone please post the model's history...
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30th October 2006, 09:58	#14
iamdstig Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	5-spd v/s 4-spd gear ratio question Hello ppl I hav an RX-135 2004 make 4-spd bike I had fitted a stock 5-spd (14bhp) Barrel The max speed i could do on it was 110 to 115kmph on a long straight The only other mod was a modded SILENCER for free flow exhaust (INBUILT... It's called inbuilt in Bangalore and Mysore) The stock 5 spd bike as per the company profile has to do a 110 so now my question arises 1) Is the final gear ratio of a 5-spd and a 4-spd same? 2) Is it really worth fitting a 5-spd gearbox on my bike? Finance is not a concern and I know mech's in Bangalore who can get it done for me and if possible can anyone gimme the gear ratio's for both the 4-spd and 5-spd, it would help me decide whether to go for it or not
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30th October 2006, 11:50	#15
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	get a RXZ 5speed, a well maintained one would cost 30-35k at TVM
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